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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:57 GMT
#2101
On November 16 2012 23:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
So what you're saying is.

Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk

All of these people are confirmed town?


Let me help you out

Town:
Me
Iamp
Kickstart
Dp
Zbo

2 scum voted zbo. He's town.
Iamp has been townie since halfway thru d1 and one the same page as me
Kickstart is cute
Dp hammered hapa

So that leaves bh, you, djo, and snb

Not voting for hapa much scummier than voting for hapa
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:03 GMT
#2102
So why the 180 on me? Kickstart is cute? I remember you saying that about me in the last hour of night.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#2103
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874

sometime you catch the mafia with their pants down.

Also from my coaching in that game bh had stated that mafia typically do not bus a godfather they may have been in the end but they would likely not lead a charge. This wagon was even more sudden than that one so i think it leads to more likely conclusion that the members of it are more likely to be town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 15:06 GMT
#2104
Clarity, which has less assumptions?

Scum voting for hapa:
Wanted to bus their active, best player and godfather for town cred d1 on a last minute voteswing
Wanted to bus said player over zbo, who had 8 votes on him on a last minute voteswing
Wanted to depend on crossfire and himself to carry the team. Lol

*remember how hapa said he was afk? Why would scum do that if hapa wasnt in the thread and couldnt talk himself out of being lynched? So dumb*

Scum voting not hapa:
Easy lynch on Zbo
Save the godfather and best mafia player

By that logic, I now find djo town. Scum thrawn wouldve voted zbo to save hapa

*the voting was close. Scum risks almost nothing by switching off hapa*
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#2105
Are there any limitations on a Roleblocker's ability to target the same player repeatedly?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2106
Yes, likely. But the fact that debears repeats it a whole lot is weird to me.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't want people to get it into their heads that they can ignore everyone who was on hapa and take their word as gospel.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2107
On November 17 2012 00:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
So why the 180 on me? Kickstart is cute? I remember you saying that about me in the last hour of night.


Because of process of elimination makes you a top target. You and snb are my top targets.

Djo I find you town
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2108
On November 17 2012 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yes, likely. But the fact that debears repeats it a whole lot is weird to me.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't want people to get it into their heads that they can ignore everyone who was on hapa and take their word as gospel.

of course not
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:09 GMT
#2109
On November 17 2012 00:06 debears wrote:
Clarity, which has less assumptions?

Scum voting for hapa:
Wanted to bus their active, best player and godfather for town cred d1 on a last minute voteswing
Wanted to bus said player over zbo, who had 8 votes on him on a last minute voteswing
Wanted to depend on crossfire and himself to carry the team. Lol

*remember how hapa said he was afk? Why would scum do that if hapa wasnt in the thread and couldnt talk himself out of being lynched? So dumb*

Scum voting not hapa:
Easy lynch on Zbo
Save the godfather and best mafia player

By that logic, I now find djo town. Scum thrawn wouldve voted zbo to save hapa

*the voting was close. Scum risks almost nothing by switching off hapa*


Now Djo is town? I thought you just listed him as top 3 likely.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#2110
by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#2111
On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity

ebwop
by the way the acme game is almost about hear the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#2112
On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity

ebwop
by the way the acme game is almost about hear the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity

CHOOO CHOOOOOO!!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#2113
The two people that were lynch candidates at the very end were Hapa and Zbo.
Hapa and crossfire voted zbo.
Conclusion, zbo is town?!?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:14 GMT
#2114
Your logic is all over the fucking place debears, and I don't like it at all.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2115
On November 17 2012 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
The two people that were lynch candidates at the very end were Hapa and Zbo.
Hapa and crossfire voted zbo.
Conclusion, zbo is town?!?


Zbo had 8 votes on him with 5 minutes left. 2 of those votes were scum. Yeah theyd surely bus him d1
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2116
On November 17 2012 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your logic is all over the fucking place debears, and I don't like it at all.

does that make him scum or does it simply displease you.

If you want to say something to him in regards to him being scum or not then say it otherwise stop wasting time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2117
On November 17 2012 00:18 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
The two people that were lynch candidates at the very end were Hapa and Zbo.
Hapa and crossfire voted zbo.
Conclusion, zbo is town?!?


Zbo had 8 votes on him with 5 minutes left. 2 of those votes were scum. Yeah theyd surely bus him d1


Over Hapa, yes I'd think so.

On November 17 2012 00:18 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your logic is all over the fucking place debears, and I don't like it at all.

does that make him scum or does it simply displease you.

If you want to say something to him in regards to him being scum or not then say it otherwise stop wasting time.


Just saying it and gauging his response. I'm not ignoring the possibility of him being scum, no. But I'm leaning town on him still.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 16 2012 15:26 GMT
#2118
I think we're at 9v1 with no SK, and setup speculation says there's at least 1 more blue besides myself, Z-bo and BH (assuming we're all telling the truth). Yes, I count miller as a blue.

Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue.

I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#2119
On November 17 2012 00:08 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
So why the 180 on me? Kickstart is cute? I remember you saying that about me in the last hour of night.


Because of process of elimination makes you a top target. You and snb are my top targets.

Djo I find you town


@ debears

Even if I agree with your conclusion, your logic is wrong because thrawn was not around the lynch deadline. You cannot guess (and me neither) what he could have done in reaction to the sudden Hapa wagon.

Were you sure that Hapa was going to get lynched when you switched your vote on him ?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 15:31 GMT
#2120
On November 15 2012 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
how does this

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:54 debears wrote:
Wait DP and Z-Bo think hapa is scum?

lead to this

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:54 debears wrote:##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless

Thrawn was around the lynch deadline.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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