EPTAgain, poor wording from my part. I understand why you don't consider likely for him to be scum given the circumstances. But I want you to focus on his play rather than the circumstances because he looks very scummy apart from this.
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Again, poor wording from my part. I understand why you don't consider likely for him to be scum given the circumstances. But I want you to focus on his play rather than the circumstances because he looks very scummy apart from this. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:26 Hopeless1der wrote: I think we're at 9v1 with no SK, and setup speculation says there's at least 1 more blue besides myself, Z-bo and BH (assuming we're all telling the truth). Yes, I count miller as a blue. Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue. I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes. My point is that we don't know how many "T's" we have got for this specific game but that the mafia team would have had a better idea of it given their roles. I can imagine that a fake jailkeeper claim is less risky from a goon if the mafia team is goon, goon, godfather. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:26 Hopeless1der wrote: I think we're at 9v1 with no SK, and setup speculation says there's at least 1 more blue besides myself, Z-bo and BH (assuming we're all telling the truth). Yes, I count miller as a blue. Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue. I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes. Sk is still possible isn't it? Double stack or holding shots. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote: If there is an SK and it's not hopeless then it would be weird for him to withhold a shot, seeing as we lynched scum D1. Double stack is possible, but would an SK shoot cross? i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:41 iamperfection wrote: i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either. ebwop didn't know why in that instance | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I actually didn't consider an SK trying to shoot marv, that's an interesting thought. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:42 Clarity_nl wrote: I think that if you're playing to your win condition and town lynches scum D1 you'll try to shoot a townie. Could be wrong. I actually didn't consider an SK trying to shoot marv, that's an interesting thought. well yeah that would be the general idea i would think. There not pro town or pro scum | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:44 Djodref wrote: I think we should not speculate too much over the possibility of an SK until we see 2 kills during one night. Yeah I'm pretty sure we were done. =] | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
@ Clarity This is your second game right ? So we just have your previous scum game for comparisons  I had a slight town read on you because you don't have the same behavior than last game, I've mentioned it in this post [spoiler][QUOTE]On November 16 2012 13:20 Djodref wrote: Let me start with some quick post about my town reads. <snip>[/QUOTE] @ Clarity Can you confirm me that is it indeed your second game and explain me why you don't like last minute shenanigans ? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
This would be my third game, kinda. I got modkilled for sending Rad a PM in my first game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhhh, crazy thought, how certain are we that there are 3 scum? I don't see it in the OP. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++ There cant be more than 3 scum. Also if we take the blues word there isn't two scum. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 16 2012 22:51 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity This is your second game right ? So we just have your previous scum game for comparisons <snip> @ Clarity Can you confirm me that is it indeed your second game and explain me why you don't like last minute shenanigans ? And regarding the fact that we have 3 scums, I'm pretty sure that it's the standard for this setup. It's a very safe assumption which we can work with ^^ Regarding the 8vs1vs1thing, this is the main reason why I would have difficulties to believe in a SK Hopeless. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:51 iamperfection wrote: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++ There cant be more than 3 scum. Also if we take the blues word there isn't two scum. Thanks. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote: They don't end well. I like sticking to solid logic rather than let emotions make decisions for you, and last minute shenanigans are just that, emotional decisions. This would be my third game, kinda. I got modkilled for sending Rad a PM in my first game. Yeah but this creates confusion and it can be a great opportunity to catch scum. I think it would have been more difficult to find you last game if not for the Cheesecake situation which was also last minute. I think it's difficult for scum to fake emotional last minute decisions (I personally think that intuition and rationality still take a small part). How do you think we found you last game ? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:27 Djodref wrote: @ debears Even if I agree with your conclusion, your logic is wrong because thrawn was not around the lynch deadline. You cannot guess (and me neither) what he could have done in reaction to the sudden Hapa wagon. Were you sure that Hapa was going to get lynched when you switched your vote on him ? Who would be sure? All I knew is that 3/4 others said they were down to switch right away and we all did immediately. | ||
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