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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:13 GMT
#2081
Clarity I agree with it. SnB is the most likely scum imo. I think you are second most likely. Then, Djo is third most likely.

But I gotta see if anything starts sticking out to me
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:19 GMT
#2082
Does that mean you're going to expand upon my case or make a case on me?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:21 GMT
#2083
im not gonna try to setup speculate i cant do it.

Bh i delegate this job to you if you so desire.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:23 GMT
#2084
On November 16 2012 23:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
Does that mean you're going to expand upon my case or make a case on me?


Idk yet. Here's the dilemma:

SnB has done absolutely nothing for town. He isn't actively discussing with us.

You have.

But you both voted for Z-Bo :/ and you were pretty outspoken about it (understandly so if you were town, but scum could very easily do the same thing to try to save their partner in a last minute voteswing. Thus, your comments about the swing seem null to me by themselves. I have to look closely at you to see if they fit your d1.

Oh, you were also there for the lynch^^^much more townie points than SnB and his "30 minute Dota game"
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:24 GMT
#2085
On November 16 2012 23:21 iamperfection wrote:
im not gonna try to setup speculate i cant do it.

Bh i delegate this job to you if you so desire.


I mean we could just go with mass blue claim and see how many more show up. That could probably tell us something. But, then we out the blues lol.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:26 GMT
#2086
marv voted for zbo too, and I agree with djo that thinking everyone who was on hapa is town is wrong.
Especially the early voters, they might just be trying to get townie points, it was extremely unlikely that hapa was gonna get lynched.

On November 15 2012 11:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ok. Couple of thoughts without looking back.

The assumption that everyone who jumped on hapa is town is bad.
Odds are, the last two people who jumped on hapa are town.
To me it seems likely that there is scum in the first couple of people jumping on hapa, because they didn't expect (like me) him to get lynched. Easy townie points with nearly no risk.

Marv was unusually quiet near the end.
BH said jump on hapa, lol jk wait d2, lol lets jump on hapa ##vote Hapa. Now he's claiming town credit? Ehhh....



FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:27 GMT
#2087
On November 16 2012 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
marv voted for zbo too, and I agree with djo that thinking everyone who was on hapa is town is wrong.
Especially the early voters, they might just be trying to get townie points, it was extremely unlikely that hapa was gonna get lynched.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ok. Couple of thoughts without looking back.

The assumption that everyone who jumped on hapa is town is bad.
Odds are, the last two people who jumped on hapa are town.
To me it seems likely that there is scum in the first couple of people jumping on hapa, because they didn't expect (like me) him to get lynched. Easy townie points with nearly no risk.

Marv was unusually quiet near the end.
BH said jump on hapa, lol jk wait d2, lol lets jump on hapa ##vote Hapa. Now he's claiming town credit? Ehhh....





You are missing a very very obvious point

WHY WOULD SCUM LYNCH THEIR GODFATHER AND BEST PLAYER DAY 1 ON A STUPID LAST MINUTE VOTESWING WHEN THEY COULD HAVE EASILY LYNCHED ZBO TO SAVE HAPA?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#2088
Like I said. Scum could have jumped on hapa, not expecting anyone to follow.
For the same reason I said the last ones to jump on are most likely town.

You don't have to use all caps to get your point across.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#2089
On November 16 2012 23:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like I said. Scum could have jumped on hapa, not expecting anyone to follow.
For the same reason I said the last ones to jump on are most likely town.

You don't have to use all caps to get your point across.

it doesn't make any sense and if scum where smart they would have realized that several players had suspicions of hapa. Just because he didn't have votes on him doesn't mean people were suspicions. myself,Marv,dabars,Kickstart,Bh, dp?? and if i dont remember anyone else sorry but thats good sizable chunk of people as well as people that can make shit happen.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2090
I think saying "everyone who was on hapa is confirmed town" is bad. You guys can't possibly disagree with that...?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2091
On November 16 2012 23:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like I said. Scum could have jumped on hapa, not expecting anyone to follow.
For the same reason I said the last ones to jump on are most likely town.

You don't have to use all caps to get your point across.


No. They would just jump back on zbo. In a last minute voteswing to a player d1, it is understandable to switch your vote off the swinger scum could have done that and saved hapa without too much suspicion.

Town cred means jack shit late game if you lynch your best player, godfather, and thread presence leader.

Crossfire had no thread presence. Do you really think the mafia do that d1. If you do, you are being am idiot
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:42 GMT
#2092
So what you're saying is.

Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk

All of these people are confirmed town?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:43 GMT
#2093
On November 16 2012 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think saying "everyone who was on hapa is confirmed town" is bad. You guys can't possibly disagree with that...?

im not using the word confirmed im just saying its stupid to look at them over other players at this point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:44 GMT
#2094
On November 16 2012 23:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think saying "everyone who was on hapa is confirmed town" is bad. You guys can't possibly disagree with that...?

im not using the word confirmed im just saying its stupid to look at them over other players at this point.


I agree with this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:46 GMT
#2095
There is rarely anything ever confirmed in mafia games. Masons being the one exception really. Marv when he was jk in rockband. There are always possibilities. you have to look at things as what is most likely and who is acting in a scum way. Do their actions make sense from a scum perspective or they make more sense from a town perspective.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 16 2012 14:47 GMT
#2096
Ill bring up day1 stuff at my comp later. You and djo are being unreasonable right now
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:48 GMT
#2097
says it right in the model op

"Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:49 GMT
#2098
No, you are just trying to push us into not looking at you and some others, which I find weird.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 16 2012 14:50 GMT
#2099
i wouldn't say hes being unreasonable more misguided i would say.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#2100
I'm pretty certain snb is gonna flip scum anyway so it doesn't matter much.
I think debears' train of though of:

- People on hapa less likely scum
- You weren't on hapa, that's scummy

Is the wrong way to go about it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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