EPTI'm just not convinced that RoL = scum, and i find it weird that you just assume that as if it is a fact.
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I'm just not convinced that RoL = scum, and i find it weird that you just assume that as if it is a fact. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
Dirkzor: Leaning Town Grackaroni: Leaning Town / Scum HarbingerOfDoom: Leaning Town Jackal58: Leaning Town/Scum layabout: Leaning Town Refallen: Leaning Scum Tyrran: Leaning Zephirdd: Leaning Town | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
 anyway Tyrran is Leaning Town to me from his contributions, I'll explain on why That some people is scum to me. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On January 06 2012 03:42 layabout wrote: filterlist of players: Blazinghand Bluelightz Dirkzor Grackaroni HarbingerOfDoom Jackal58 layabout Refallen Tyrran Zephirdd Now, Since BH claimed the "Not dark" read on Grack, I think he is town but there is still the possibility of him being an angel. He has done nothing helping the town, sheeped hard. He also has been contributing to the discussion though so I'm mixed with Grack. Next, Refallen I think Refallen is scum because he seemed preeety sure about some ??? flips in some of his post's On January 16 2012 19:33 Refallen wrote: Where'd you get the idea that they thought syllo was the seer? I'm pretty sure syllo was vanilla town tbh. But, his stance on Palmar day 1 make's me look as he is town tho On Jackal, I'm preety mixed up cuz he has been contributing alot lately but, before that he has been posting pointless stuff alot ;/ My vote is on Jackal for now because when I see his filter and compare it with when he is Town I see a difference in how much content he provides. ##Vote: Jackal58 Please excuse me, as I don't have computer access at the time before the lynch happens(about to sleep and have no access to computer) So, with this last word's I say I am Town. If you Lynch Me, I will flip town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 17 2012 23:57 layabout wrote: bluelightz please take a stance on something He can't. It's much to late for him to do so. He doesn't like my filter. Don't really care. His filter is a journal noting when he's going to bed and when he awakes. Day 1 - He doesn't want to lynch lurkers/Inactives. Day 1 - He wants to lynch an inactive. Day 1 - He doesn't like the meta case on Palmar. Day 1 - He votes for Palmar. And he's been going to bed and getting up since then. But hey he's been really good about informing us about it. Now when asked to make a stance he does about the only thing he can do. OMGUS. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 18 2012 01:04 layabout wrote: what do you think of the way in which refallen has presented information to the thread today? I think he's closed his mind to a multitude of possibilities. That said I am hoping the scenario of RoL - Angel, HoD - Sage is the way events actually are. That is the premise I am basing my actions today on. It's called "hope". | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + unless your scum + Show Spoiler + @BH yes this is a spoiler inside of a spoiler and I hope you enjoyed clicking it | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
So, let's talk about Hope If RoL isn't an angel, we have 3 angels alive. If we lynch an angel today, and it's the AoD or acolyte, that'll bring us down to 2 angels. the DH will shoot me and the angels will kill a town player, but maybe a demon too. in a best case for town scenario they kill a demon. That lets us enter day 5 with 1 CT, 1 Demon, 2 Angels, 3 town-affiliated people. If we lynch another angel, and the angel kills a town player, and the demon hunter kills, lets say, the last demon we can enter day 6 with 1 angel and 2 town, and it's lylo. It's not over for town even if there are 3 angels alive right now-- we just need to constantly lynch angels and pick off a demon or two over the next couple of nights. And even if it were over for town, our goal is still to lynch every angel-- that's our minor victory condition if we can't win outright. I haven't liked bluelightz all game. If I had control of my vote it would be on him. I dont' know why demons are leaving my vote on layabout. I think they may be trying to exonerate him (a demon) by parking it there. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
If it somehow turns out he was town, especially if he was blue, I'm gonna have some serious thinking / introspection to do after this game ._. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
I think we can agree that we need to lynch someone. + Show Spoiler + I will not be voting for anyone other than HoD or Refallen unless you can present reasons that suggest that voting for another player has a better chance of killing (angel) scum. BL has basically thrown his vote on Jackal. BH claims CT of the total votes its likely that 2-6 of them are scum controlled (most likely = 2 demon 3 angel 1 ct or 2 demon 2 angel 1ct) As we need 6 votes total to lynch and it's unlikely that Angels or Demons will actually vote and kill one of their own, If we wish to lynch an angel we likely need demons help, and we need town united on the same candidate. If we wish to lynch a demon we will need the Angels help, and we need town united on the same candidate. We need that candidate + Show Spoiler + It's HoD + Show Spoiler + vote HoD | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On January 18 2012 02:54 layabout wrote: of the total votes its likely that 2-6 of them are scum controlled (most likely = 2 demon 3 angel 1 ct or 2 demon 2 angel 1ct) 2-6 of them? How on earth is it possible that only 2 votes are scum controlled? Please enlighten | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
for instance, wiggles and syllogism could have been a demons killed by angels and RoL an angel whose kill was concealed. 0demons 2 angels ct gets own vote whilst it seems sensible to dismiss this possibility we should dismiss it actively rather than pretending it is not possible. We should consider whether or not different possibilities should have an impact on our decision-making. I think that, that example should not affect out decision-making but i also think that treating things like that as impossible and then treating much more likely possibilities that would have a real impact on what we should do, is something that we cannot afford to do. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On January 18 2012 02:54 layabout wrote: + Show Spoiler + I think we can agree that we need to lynch someone. + Show Spoiler + I will not be voting for anyone other than HoD or Refallen unless you can present reasons that suggest that voting for another player has a better chance of killing (angel) scum. BL has basically thrown his vote on Jackal. BH claims CT of the total votes its likely that 2-6 of them are scum controlled (most likely = 2 demon 3 angel 1 ct or 2 demon 2 angel 1ct) As we need 6 votes total to lynch and it's unlikely that Angels or Demons will actually vote and kill one of their own, If we wish to lynch an angel we likely need demons help, and we need town united on the same candidate. If we wish to lynch a demon we will need the Angels help, and we need town united on the same candidate. We need that candidate + Show Spoiler + It's HoD + Show Spoiler + vote HoD Here is the deal layabout. IF RoL was an Angel and HoD is the sage, the best case scenario for Demons is to get HoD lynched. On the even that he is actually an Angel, RoL wouldn't have been an Angel and demons would - or should - love to share that town is dumb as fuck and they mislynched the Channeler, incriminating HoD instantly. But here is the thing: this is information you have. By you, I mean you, layabout the Demon and your partner - from your reactions to recent events, that's what you look to me. Since the information is probably the one we all know - RoL was Angel - that means that no way in hell that HoD is an Angel. Which means you, Demons, don't want to share this information as that would stop us from lynching the best lynch target for you, Demons, which is the Sage. Because you know that, with the Sage lynched and the Seer(syllogism, given no claims around) dead, the Channeler dead and the DH following town hard, as well as your corrupted vote on day 4, you will be able to control the majority and lynch Angels one by one, giving town the second place and Demons the win. The scenario that the Sage is lynched is just perfect for you Demons. And that's why you are pushing him so hard. Demons are retarded if RoL flipped Channeler and they don't want to share that information to snipe down an obvious Angel. Assuming they(you) are not retarded, RoL was Angel and HoD is the Sage QED I like the idea of killing Refallen however. I'll read through his filter and see if he is an Angel. We want to lynch Angels right now, and not you so... yeah. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? why would a scum team willingly give up information to town that could be to their detriment how about instead of first assuming that i am a demon, you try to look at how HoD has behaved and see how it makes sense if he is an angel. claiming sage was not only safe for an angel but it allowed him to then make an OMGUS against me. +did you really think that i looked like scum until HoD said that i was twisted? Consider that i believe HoD to be the AoD. Consider that my reasons have not been shown to be incorrect. (because they aren't) Consider that as town i need to lynch an angel and that killing the AoD is the best possible lynch for town. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
Blazinghand - 99% town, 1% demon. Claimed corrupted town. He is either town (very likely), or an exceptionally ballsy demon. Bluelightz - Wat. Just posted his list of reads, includes more town reads than the number of remaining townies, unless Syllo was somehow a demon and RoL was an angel. I want to believe he is town, but he makes it so hard to. Reading his filter makes my brain numb. I would not be particularly surprised with him flipping any alignment. Dirkzor - Seems scummy to me, I could see him flipping angel or demon. Grackaroni - Leaning town. 100% not a demon. Some chance of being an angel, but I have now read his past games and the main difference I see is only a bit of a drop in activity. Also, if you were scum, Palmar was not on your team, and he was acting fairly scummy and being attacked by several vets, would you defend him day 1? I know I wouldn't. However, he still remains a potential angel, although I do not think it is the most likely. Jackal58 - Might be an angel...? I can't shake the feeling that he might be an angel, but I don't have any particularly good explanation for it. layabout - Probably demon. He was twisted, but is not the corrupted townie. Also wants me dead like none other. Possibility of him being town if the demons managed to guess who I was investigating. Refallen - Probably town. Besides being more aggressive, which is in itself generally a town trait, and his play has been fairly consistent with my last game with him where he was town. Tyrran - Still isn't playing anything like he did when he was town in steamship. A number of his statements don't seem like a bullshitting scum player...but his play is still very different. I could see him flipping any alignment. Zephirdd - Hopefully town. While his actions have been odd, they don't match up with his scum play from steamship. His reactions to being accused by syllo of being scum-buddies with me seemed extremely similar to my reaction to being tied to Risk. So, I am willing to take our chances on lynching Bluelightz, Dirkzor, Jackal, Tyrran, or Grackaroni, with a preference of not Grackaroni. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 18 2012 03:12 layabout wrote: there are very unlikely scenarios in which all of the demons are dead. for instance, wiggles and syllogism could have been a demons killed by angels and RoL an angel whose kill was concealed. 0demons 2 angels ct gets own vote whilst it seems sensible to dismiss this possibility we should dismiss it actively rather than pretending it is not possible. We should consider whether or not different possibilities should have an impact on our decision-making. I think that, that example should not affect out decision-making but i also think that treating things like that as impossible and then treating much more likely possibilities that would have a real impact on what we should do, is something that we cannot afford to do. No, there is a 0% chance of all demons being dead. I already explained that wiggles was 100% town-aligned. On January 17 2012 09:12 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Oh yeah, and Wiggles is guaranteed to have been town-aligned. Angels wouldn't kill one of their own, and the twister and the concealer were alive during the day yesterday (concealer acted during the day, twister at night). I know it was already extremely likely he was town, but just thought that might be worth mentioning. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
he is trolling you with a complete list of reads! + Show Spoiler + inside of that list of reads he criticises another player for posting a complete list of reads | ||
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