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HarbingerOfDoom
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layabout
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layabout
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do you try to find all of the scum at once? or do you try to read people draw the best conclusions you feel you can and then evaluate the implications of those conclusions? | ||
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Blazinghand
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HarbingerOfDoom
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layabout
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On January 18 2012 03:36 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Reads/Explanations: Blazinghand - 99% town, 1% demon. Claimed corrupted town. He is either town (very likely), or an exceptionally ballsy demon. Bluelightz - Wat. Just posted his list of reads, includes more town reads than the number of remaining townies, unless Syllo was somehow a demon and RoL was an angel. I want to believe he is town, but he makes it so hard to. Reading his filter makes my brain numb. I would not be particularly surprised with him flipping any alignment. Dirkzor - Seems scummy to me, I could see him flipping angel or demon. any scum Grackaroni - Leaning town. 100% not a demon. Some chance of being an angel, but I have now read his past games and the main difference I see is only a bit of a drop in activity. Also, if you were scum, Palmar was not on your team, and he was acting fairly scummy and being attacked by several vets, would you defend him day 1? I know I wouldn't. However, he still remains a potential angel, although I do not think it is the most likely. [b]town Jackal58 - Might be an angel...? I can't shake the feeling that he might be an angel, but I don't have any particularly good explanation for it. layabout - Probably demon. He was twisted, but is not the corrupted townie. Also wants me dead like none other. Possibility of him being town if the demons managed to guess who I was investigating. Refallen - Probably town. Besides being more aggressive, which is in itself generally a town trait, and his play has been fairly consistent with my last game with him where he was town. Tyrran - Still isn't playing anything like he did when he was town in steamship. A number of his statements don't seem like a bullshitting scum player...but his play is still very different. I could see him flipping any alignment. Zephirdd - Hopefully town. While his actions have been odd, they don't match up with his scum play from steamship. His reactions to being accused by syllo of being scum-buddies with me seemed extremely similar to my reaction to being tied to Risk. So, I am willing to take our chances on lynching Bluelightz, Dirkzor, Jackal, Tyrran, or Grackaroni, with a preference of not Grackaroni. so thats: Town Any a bit scummy leaning town maybe angel probably demon probably town Any hopefully town 1 scum read 2"maybe" scum 2 i havent a clue Bluelightz had: [B]On January 17 2012 23:53 Bluelightz wrote: Blazinghand: Leaning Town Dirkzor: Leaning Town Grackaroni: Leaning Town / Scum HarbingerOfDoom: Leaning Town Jackal58: Leaning Town/Scum layabout: Leaning Town Refallen: Leaning Scum Tyrran: Leaning Zephirdd: Leaning Town 1 maybe scum 2 maybe scum, maybe town. way to go stick your neck out and criticise BL from a position that you could legitimately do so from. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On January 18 2012 03:35 layabout wrote: the demons would love to inform town the channeller was lynched if this was the case ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? why would a scum team willingly give up information to town that could be to their detriment how about instead of first assuming that i am a demon, you try to look at how HoD has behaved and see how it makes sense if he is an angel. claiming sage was not only safe for an angel but it allowed him to then make an OMGUS against me. +did you really think that i looked like scum until HoD said that i was twisted? Consider that i believe HoD to be the AoD. Consider that my reasons have not been shown to be incorrect. (because they aren't) Consider that as town i need to lynch an angel and that killing the AoD is the best possible lynch for town. Because that would mean instant HoD lynch, how can you not realize that? It can only be beneficial to them as the HoD is would be a freaking Angel, and with HoD's flip(if he is lynched) we will know that anyway. [Loading...] Allow me to apply Zephirdd's logic into my previous post and consider that HoD is the Angel, that the Demons are stupid and that you are probably not even a Demon. Yes, HoD is a real lynch target. + Show Spoiler [Possibly useless voting analysis] + Quickly, anyone good with voting analysis? Assume that Blazinghand, Mr Wiggles and syllogism as town Erandorr (10): Blazinghand, Tyrran, Cwave, HarbingerOfDoom, syllogism, risk.nuke, Grackaroni, Jackal58, Mr. Wiggles, layabout risk.nuke (9): Refallen, syllogism, Bluelightz, Zephirdd, RebirthOfLeGenD, Grackaroni, Blazinghand, Cwave, Jackal58 RebirthOfLeGenD (7): Blazinghand, Spaackle, Refallen, Grackaroni, HarbingerOfDoom, Zephirdd, syllogism (mind you that even if grack is not dark, he could be angel; that doesn't matter RIGHT NOW) What makes more sense: Painting HoD or RoL as scum on these? To me its HoD. BTW Mr Wiggles had to be at least VT, why the fuck would he create the first case against his own Palmar buddy? -_- ...Are we even lynching? I doubt a no-lynch would be beneficial to anyone but angels. Either way, If I'm wrong we lynch the AoD, if I'm right we at least get a shot at second place with Demons winning. laya/syllo made a ton of sense and it's just silly that HoD happened to get twisted on the one guy that made a case against him. ASDFAFSDFASFDASFDASDFAS oh btw I couldn't find Angel on Refallen, nor scum or whatsoever | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
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layabout
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
At all. | ||
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Barbiero
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I voted HoD. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 18 2012 03:56 layabout wrote: given how passive and disinterested people have been playing and the lack of votes and lynch candidates and cases, wouldn't it be fair to say that most of the people in the thread are uncertain of their scumreads, and by extension must find everyone else either town or null? Or about half the people alive are some type of scum and therefore have more trouble finding enough scum. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
I am the sage. If you are town, don't throw this game dammit. | ||
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Barbiero
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Barbiero
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603¤tpage=106#2105 Next, Refallen I think Refallen is scum because he seemed preeety sure about some ??? flips in some of his post's <random quote about syllo being VT> But, his stance on Palmar day 1 make's me look as he is town tho That is simply retarded. Angels know the ??? flips except for RoL's flip(or not, if he was Angel). Palmar was demon. OF COURSE an Angel would go against Palmar. + OMGUS on Jackal wtf...? | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 18 2012 03:53 layabout wrote: so thats: Town Any a bit scummy leaning town maybe angel probably demon probably town Any hopefully town 1 scum read 2"maybe" scum 2 i havent a clue Bluelightz had: 1 maybe scum 2 maybe scum, maybe town. way to go stick your neck out and criticise BL from a position that you could legitimately do so from. Mine is a possible setup given the remaining players. BL's is not unless Syllo was a demon, RoL was an angel, and both of his maybe town, maybe scums are scum. I am criticizing him for suggesting a virtually impossible scenario with an extra fuckload of town in it. And how do you go from a probably demon and a seems scummy -> saying I have 1 scum read? I admit there is the possibility of you being town due to my illuminate failing, but I think it is much more likely you are a demon. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
He even makes a huge mistake on one of his "reads": HoD said that grack was not angel, but what if he is a demon?. He has been sheeping but, how he post's make me lean town. HoD said he was not Demon. That's what the Sage does. He complains about one liners when he is the one liner man himself. And specially 11.Zephirrd With his VT claim I believe him for now. Nevermind the double 'r'(which I HATE), but what the fuck kind of reasoning is this? So I post a retarded amount of martyring and claim the one thing that we all are by default, and he "believes" me? This striked me as odd at first, but now I'm trying to take things together. And then he makes two huge posts about Dirkzor, about how he is scum, and with a single one-liner by Dirkzor he suddenly has him as "Leaning Town". I mean, I thought I was the king of mind changing and contradictions but this guy wins the prize. Later, Since BH claimed the "Not dark" read on Grack, I think he is town but there is still the possibility of him being an angel. He has done nothing helping the town, sheeped hard. He also has been contributing to the discussion though so I'm mixed with Grack. Wait, I thought HoD had said he wasn't an Angel, according to you? So, with this last word's I say I am Town. If you Lynch Me, I will flip town. What, nobody was caring about you at all. Are you really Town, with capital T? | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 18 2012 04:00 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Zephirrd T_T On January 18 2012 04:19 Zephirdd wrote: Nevermind the double 'r'(which I HATE) Sorry Zephirdd :-x | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
he is posting his read on players based on what he has read. "seems scummmy" is not a scum read, it's very non-committal "he is scummy" on the other hand would pretty much a scum read "he is scum" is a scumread "Probably" indicates that you think him being scum is the most likely alignment "seems" or "scummy" is not "seems and scummy" is not a scumread. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 18 2012 04:23 layabout wrote: he isn't suggesting a scenario he is posting his read on players based on what he has read. "seems scummmy" is not a scum read, it's very non-committal "he is scummy" on the other hand would pretty much a scum read "he is scum" is a scumread "Probably" indicates that you think him being scum is the most likely alignment "seems" or "scummy" is not "seems and scummy" is not a scumread. So I say he seems scummy and I could see him being angel or demon, and I say I am fine lynching him, and you interpret it with your comment as "any scum", but it isn't a scum read? I see. Re Bluelightz: You have a list of conclusions. Some of your conclusions must be false. Do you 1) Rethink some of the conclusions 2) Accept them all and share them ...? | ||
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