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His Student Mafia filter => http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067&user=235418
It is significantly shorter as he replaced someone that game. However, it is significantly similar to his filter here - consider that after 15 days, he has a similar amount of posting considering proportions. In fact, he replaced the player at Dec 07 and was lynched December 15, as the last mafia. That's about half the time, with about half the posting. AKA. he has the same levels of activity here as he had as mafia there.
I'm sorry, but this looks Scum to me.
(this + the fact that he does not commit to absolutely anything)
layabout, what do you think? Mind to take a look at his filter?
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
layabout was in that game, iirc. he should be familiar with bluelightz' scum play.
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Good, so he should realize that bluelightz look scum here, unless I'm missing something. I didn't observe that game(was busy reading Mafia XLVII in order to catch up just to die the next day), but scum BL from student and BL from here look incredibly similar.
Having the opinion from someone familiar to his meta would be great.
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On January 18 2012 04:30 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 04:23 layabout wrote:
he isn't suggesting a scenario
he is posting his read on players based on what he has read.
"seems scummmy" is not a scum read, it's very non-committal
"he is scummy" on the other hand would pretty much a scum read
"he is scum" is a scumread
"Probably" indicates that you think him being scum is the most likely alignment
"seems" or "scummy" is not
"seems and scummy" is not a scumread. So I say he seems scummy and I could see him being angel or demon, and I say I am fine lynching him, and you interpret it with your comment as "any scum", but it isn't a scum read? I see. Re Bluelightz: You have a list of conclusions. Some of your conclusions must be false. Do you 1) Rethink some of the conclusions 2) Accept them all and share them ...?
the phrase "seems scummy" does not definitively indicate that you have a scum read on a player, whereby a scumread is defined as: "i think that player's most likely alignment is scum"
From google point number 2
seems : "Used to make a statement or description of one's thoughts, feelings, or actions less assertive or forceful."
If you want to call bluelightz stupid then go ahead.
I shall not.
Given that he has been making town and null reads for the entire game, if you truly believe that that makes him likely scum (which it does not) then why wait until now to make the point, and why not explain the point because it is a pointed that is questionable at it's absolute best.
You also present his choice of options in a way that Bluelightz almost certainly did not consider or frame it, so it really cannot be used to evaluate his decisions.
Plus he cannot come back to defend himself because he should be sleeping.
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Lol I guess him posting his sleep schedule worked for him here. So, no vote on him for now.
I don't know who to vote if not HoD.
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Bluelightz has a complete absence of play for us to analyse and draw reasonable conclusions from.
However i will say this:
The town performance in student mafia was exceptional.
Every town player through their posting made themselves easily identifyable as town from day number 1.
On day 1 BH voted for lots of players to pressure them into contributing,
The way in which most players made these contributions was though lists of all of their reads.
+ Show Spoiler +After i subbed in and argued against the thread for the entire time Velinath agreed with my read and BH placed the final vote to nail the mafia roleblocker xtfftc.
Bluelightz who had replaced in as scum then conceeded the game.
Overall it was not evident that he was putting a lot of thought into his post. His posts lacked a confident tone.
I think it is extremely easy to see why Bluelightz may have thought that posting all of his reads regularly would be a very pro-town thing to do.
You could try to WIFOM this by saying that if one could easily understand how BL might think that then he should play up to his noobishness and do that because it makes him look like a new player, who is trying to do what they believe is a good thing for town to do.
I think BL has a high chance of flipping town, should we be dumb enough to vote for him
link to day1 list-ville: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12587434
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@layabout
That definition of seems is only valid if followed by an infinitive verb. If you're going to use definitions to try to twist my words, at least do it properly.
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TBH most of these are valid only during the first few days. It's been fifteen days already.
Why are you trying so hard to defend him? I already gave up on him, and I'll just wait for his defense tomorrow after today's lynch(no-lynch would only benefit angels on this scenario IMO).
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On January 18 2012 05:03 Zephirdd wrote:TBH most of these are valid only during the first few days. It's been fifteen days already. Why are you trying so hard to defend him? I already gave up on him, and I'll just wait for his defense tomorrow after today's lynch(no-lynch would only benefit angels on this scenario IMO).
I am explaining that i think he is town and that lynching him would be a poor decision.
If you cannot see how some of the statements about using meta on bluelightz could be relevant then maybe you haven't been reading your own filter:
On January 18 2012 04:35 Zephirdd wrote:
Good, so he should realize that bluelightz look scum here, unless I'm missing something. I didn't observe that game(was busy reading Mafia XLVII in order to catch up just to die the next day), but scum BL from student and BL from here look incredibly similar.
Having the opinion from someone familiar to his meta would be great.
+ Show Spoiler +fuck it's on this page and it was 30 minutes ago
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Alright, we are getting way too close to a no-lynch. Is there any non-me lynch that everyone would be willing to take a chance on? I have to go in about 45 minutes. I'll be back before the lynch, but not until sometime between 1 and 2 hours until the deadline. We need 6 votes to lynch.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
I'm game for bluelightz but have no vote
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I want to vote HoD or Refallen as i said earlier...
refallen then?
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Blazinghand you should still vote! Then we can see if someone changed it or not... might be demons won't change it at all...
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On January 18 2012 05:29 Dirkzor wrote:
Blazinghand you should still vote! Then we can see if someone changed it or not... might be demons won't change it at all...
I support this statement.
Vote and say who you voted.
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On January 18 2012 05:30 layabout wrote:
voting refallen
what the fuck and what about all your bullshit about HoD being scum?
The only thing that stands out for me about refallen is that he is so certain about statement(ie syllo is VT).
Can someone point something for me about Ref, even if its the link to a case on him?
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j/k, apparently I will be around...waiting until 3:30 to cancel a 4:00 meeting *grumble grumble*
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EPT
