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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
February 07 2011 19:21 GMT
#2081
On February 08 2011 01:20 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, I'm not putting my vote behind anyone to settle a stupid squable that is most likely two townies tunneling, instead what do you guys think of Kav's analysis of Impervious? That at least has much more to go on then 1 clue sort of matches and includes a behavioral analysis. Also Divinek care to explain your freak out at the LD situation which jackal has so kindly pointed out?


i thought jackal actually analyzed something instead of pointing shit out lol. But I just didn't trust the SK, you guys thought we could and that he would listen to us and this was likely but he had no reason to listen to us, he was going to die either way. I'm glad your trust in him prevailed, but when I see glaring certainties to me I sort of tunnel lol.
And you had clues pointing to scum that were fairly certain but I am always a fan of going for the sure thing, in hind sight obviously hitting two mafia and getting no townies killed was amazing, but any other scenario might have ended badly. But a one for one trade would have been okay too but then we'd still have had to waste a lynch regardless.
I was freaking out cause I was preparing for worst case scenario while others were expecting the best, their optimistic bias payed off and I'm glad for it. :D
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 07 2011 19:24 GMT
#2082
Jackal is obvious town at this point, not sure of cubed. I love the scumhunting jackal, but you really need to learn to convince town and not just yourself of peoples guilt =). Some behavioural analysis would be great, while you post DivineK's posts, you don't actually comment on them and point out why exactly these means he is mafia. Same with Cubed. Maybe ask Foolishness for advice on how to build a case? =)

IMO you should check blue tonight Kav. Lynching SK is the only "break" we get from hunting mafia, and if eti was a red, well then we will just realise we have won one day later. If we want blue info now is the time.
Bartundar
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 07 2011 19:43 GMT
#2083
On February 08 2011 04:24 Barundar wrote:
Jackal is obvious town at this point, not sure of cubed. I love the scumhunting jackal, but you really need to learn to convince town and not just yourself of peoples guilt =). Some behavioural analysis would be great, while you post DivineK's posts, you don't actually comment on them and point out why exactly these means he is mafia. Same with Cubed. Maybe ask Foolishness for advice on how to build a case? =)

IMO you should check blue tonight Kav. Lynching SK is the only "break" we get from hunting mafia, and if eti was a red, well then we will just realise we have won one day later. If we want blue info now is the time.

Cubed is simply the clues. Movie scene with an explanation. Followed by why the explanation was given. I've already pointed those out. If we're playing a game with clues I have to believe the clues carry more weight than analysis. This is rapidly becoming paralysis by analysis.

Divinek's posts I did comment. 1 comment covers them all. He went apeshit for no real reason.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 07 2011 19:48 GMT
#2084
On February 08 2011 03:31 Kavdragon wrote:
Um...In regards to the Census, I just realized how less-useful it would be to check mafia. If Eti was mafia, we have already won, so I'm betting he's not.

Is there anything that the town really needs to know? We have the # of Mafia (Providing there aren't any more modkills tonight), and we know that there aren't any more SK's. That leaves Blues/Greens. Would anyone object to my using it to my own ends tonight?

Oh, btw. I kind of doubt there are any DT's at this point, but would you please claim if you are? Your information would be most helpful. I'm afraid that there's no real point for vig hits at this point. I'd rather you save your shot, so that no one important dies. I'd tell you who not to shoot, but that would just give the mafia a list of who to kill, so....Sorry, but I don't see it helping at this point.

I have no objections to you using census for whatever purpose as long as you share the info .

If we have any vigs humor me and shoot cubed.
Life can only kill you once.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 07 2011 20:02 GMT
#2085
On February 08 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
If we're playing a game with clues I have to believe the clues carry more weight than analysis. This is rapidly becoming paralysis by analysis.


-_-

On February 14 2010 12:16 Ace wrote:
We should NEVER rely on clues are our primary weapon for catching Mafia. Remember they are based on interpretation NOT fact. This is why I said it DOES NOT MATTER how many more people in the game are Mafia, it's always going to come down to guesswork. At the very least we can focus on behavior. Look at all the people vying for clue work when it's an easily acceptable fact by anyone that has played before that it's a bad idea.



On February 08 2011 04:48 Jackal58 wrote:
I have no objections to you using census for whatever purpose as long as you share the info


Eh....no. I'm not going to promise any sharing of information. Not publicly anyways.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
February 07 2011 20:15 GMT
#2086
On February 08 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2011 04:24 Barundar wrote:
Jackal is obvious town at this point, not sure of cubed. I love the scumhunting jackal, but you really need to learn to convince town and not just yourself of peoples guilt =). Some behavioural analysis would be great, while you post DivineK's posts, you don't actually comment on them and point out why exactly these means he is mafia. Same with Cubed. Maybe ask Foolishness for advice on how to build a case? =)

IMO you should check blue tonight Kav. Lynching SK is the only "break" we get from hunting mafia, and if eti was a red, well then we will just realise we have won one day later. If we want blue info now is the time.

Cubed is simply the clues. Movie scene with an explanation. Followed by why the explanation was given. I've already pointed those out. If we're playing a game with clues I have to believe the clues carry more weight than analysis. This is rapidly becoming paralysis by analysis.

Divinek's posts I did comment. 1 comment covers them all. He went apeshit for no real reason.


i went ape shit because i standing up for what i believe in and people pay you more attention when you get maaaaaaaad! And i thought everyone else was being crazy
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
February 07 2011 20:24 GMT
#2087
I can think of 2 situations involving 3 KP:

1 SK + 2 mafia KP

or

2 SK and 1 mafia KP

How do we know that it has to have been the first scenario? While unlikely, it is possible that there were 2 of them, and they hit-stacked/hit other SK/hit vet/hit protected townie at some point. And, if that's the case, we could still be in trouble if we don't find that SK soon.

It's also possible that the nights with 3 kills were actually caused by vig shots, and there is only 1 SK and the mafia only had 1 KP as well.



Also, as much as it may suck being kept out of the loop, it may be better if the mafia doesn't know how many blues we have, in case that's what Kav elects to use the census for. I think it'd be better to keep the info within the mason circle.



As a DT, I'd be wondering what alliance GMarshal is. Just to be sure. As a blue or green, he'd be a high priority target so they can get at Kav (assuming both are townies), and as a red, they'd leave both him and Kav alone, for obvious reasons.



Just throwing some quick thoughts out there about the night phase.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 07 2011 23:15 GMT
#2088
except I've taken a hit and Kav said he was unsuccessfully roleblocked, which proves my greenness, so DT checking me is a waste of the ability (although if he really wants to he can feel free [assuming one exists])
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 08 2011 00:44 GMT
#2089
Lol, DT checking the BG's is a mafia plan. And yeah, GMarshal is confirmed as 100% town. Don't check him. (If there even is a DT out there. Claim if you are!)

If I die, then we know that they are mafia. There's absolutely no good reason to check them at this point. That was one of the things that tipped me off about Bum. Why would he check Beneather? If I die, he's mafia. Waste of a check.


There is so much evidence to the contrary that it's not worth considering 2 SKs. The chances of stacking hits that long, that often...Sorry, no.

On recent deaths:
I'm hoping, and praying that Coag wasn't the medic. Whoever is medic, if you are still here, please protect GMarshal.

I'm similarly hoping that Beneather was the roleblocker.
If you get RB'ed tonight, please claim it asap.
If you get hit, and survive, please claim it asap.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 08 2011 00:44 GMT
#2090
On February 08 2011 08:15 GMarshal wrote:
except I've taken a hit and Kav said he was unsuccessfully roleblocked, which proves my greenness, so DT checking me is a waste of the ability (although if he really wants to he can feel free [assuming one exists])

It would just give him a green total with no names attached.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 08 2011 00:46 GMT
#2091
Never mind. I was reading Kav's census post. My brain did some transposing.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 08 2011 00:48 GMT
#2092
On February 08 2011 09:44 Kavdragon wrote:
Lol, DT checking the BG's is a mafia plan. And yeah, GMarshal is confirmed as 100% town. Don't check him. (If there even is a DT out there. Claim if you are!)

If I die, then we know that they are mafia. There's absolutely no good reason to check them at this point. That was one of the things that tipped me off about Bum. Why would he check Beneather? If I die, he's mafia. Waste of a check.


There is so much evidence to the contrary that it's not worth considering 2 SKs. The chances of stacking hits that long, that often...Sorry, no.

On recent deaths:
I'm hoping, and praying that Coag wasn't the medic. Whoever is medic, if you are still here, please protect GMarshal.

I'm similarly hoping that Beneather was the roleblocker.
If you get RB'ed tonight, please claim it asap.
If you get hit, and survive, please claim it asap.

ASAP is pretty much at LSB and Node's convenience of sending PMs.
Life can only kill you once.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 08 2011 02:11 GMT
#2093
Om NoM. Moar day post plz.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-08 02:20:48
February 08 2011 02:16 GMT
#2094
Day 6

[image loading]

The doctors did all they could. Yet it was still not enough. Their pills, their medicines, could not race death. As black fluid drips through GMarshals IVs, he dies.

He dies slowly and painfully, the corruption in his blood too much for the drugs.

He dies in agony, his fingers and toes clenching, nails digging so deep into his palms that streaks of black blood run from his hands down his arms.

And then he relaxes. Unable to be saved.

GMarshal is dead.

Day 6 is begun! I think you all know what happens next...
whole lies with a half smile
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-08 02:18:17
February 08 2011 02:16 GMT
#2095
Remember to vote! Modkills suck
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 08 2011 02:18 GMT
#2096
THEY ARE COMING AT YOU, COMING FOR YOU, KAV!
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 08 2011 02:20 GMT
#2097
FUUUUUUUUUUU
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 08 2011 02:21 GMT
#2098
Can mods update the player list please?
you gotta dance
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 08 2011 02:28 GMT
#2099
I think this is a solid clue. LETS DO THIS SHIT MY FELLOW TOWNIES
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 08 2011 02:33 GMT
#2100
*dies*
gl town, I was hoping to survive till the endgame, but I guess not
slaughter those scummies for me!
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