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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Objectively. RoL/MrWiggles/HoD case. First of all, things we know: There was no Sage counterclaim so far The Channeler died between night 2 and night 3 Secondly, possible case scenarios for RoL/MrW/HoD, assuming syllo was NOT the sage(or he'd have counterclaimed and killed HoD on spot): RoL was either an Angel or the Channeler(as claimed by). MrWiggles was either the Channeler or the Sage OR a VT. HarbingerOfDoom is either the Sage or an Angel. if RoL was an Angel, MrWiggles must have been the Channeler, therefore validating HoD's claim. if RoL was the Channeler, MrWiggles could have been the Sage therefore making HoD's claim invalid Reasons for MrW being the Sage over HoD and for HoD's claim to be invalid were pointed out by syllogism and layabout already. Both RoL and HoD being Angels is NOT a likely scenario because there was no counterclaim to Sage, and the Channeler must be MrWiggles or RoL(according to night action orders). So, unless syllogism was the Sage(which is unlikely, as he could have just counterclaimed and sniped HoD on the spot), either RoL was town or HoD is town. layabout, what do you have to say about this? Do you think RoL could have been that bad and we actually mislynched the Channeler, or do you think that HoD is actually the Sage? Am I missing something about this? Also, that song is awesome layabout. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
I honestly think this is not a bad idea at all. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On January 17 2012 07:04 Blazinghand wrote: Final refined demon communication code: Please do the following 1) if you are willing to talk about whether or not layabout was twisted, move my vote onto REFALLEN then ZEPHIRDD. 2) if you are willing to reveal the identify of RoL's flip, move my vote onto GRACKARONI then onto ZEPHIRDD. 3) otherwise, please move my vote onto your best read for angels. If that read happens to be LAYABOUT (where my vote is currently parked), indicate that this is the case by moving my vote onto ZEPHIRDD then back onto LAYABOUT. 4) If you would like me to introduce additional options for communication via vote movement, move my vote onto JACKAL then onto ZEPHIRDD. Just in case the demon team missed it last page | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Yes I believe you to be town. But I'm wrong just as often on my town reads as I am on my scum reads. Pardon me but my skeptic is coming out. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
If you don't think this can help us find angels, why? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
+ if you are faking then this is hilarious If you are town would you care to analyse some players? (and then vote HoD because my points are still spot-on) | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Also, if I were a demon false-claiming CT wouldn't I just get killed by the demon-hunter? It sounds really dumb to me. After all, the demon hunter is killing me tonight for sure to get rid of a demon vote after we lynch an angel. If I were an angel false-claiming CT, the demons would just use their real CT plus people's arguments to bury me. and if I were town, why would I false-claim CT? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Nah, it's more likely that BH is the CT. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 17 2012 07:15 Blazinghand wrote: Ok, fair enough. Do you believe there is a way to communicate the the demons via vote movement that can benefit us today? If so, what is that? I'll do that instead. If you don't think this can help us find angels, why? Yes I think if you were confirmed townie this play would be brilliant in rooting out angels. Unfortunately the only confirmed player in the game so far is Palmar. And he's not going to help us unless somebody has a Ouija board. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
If you are a corrupted town: You might have a blue role You count against the Angels win condition The demons will only have 2-4 votes tomorrow (its slightly possible they are all dead but very unlikely) You can investigate players and get dark or not dark. You are a town aligned force in the thread +killing you would not kill a demon + it would not hit and fail against an angel Why would the demons give up their information advantage and hand town the win? Your play has had major flaws that i am sure will be highlighted post-game, you could be doing anything as town for a whole host of barely-reasons. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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United States25560 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
TBH with Spaackle flipping VT, I have no idea who could be Demon. Maybe you, layabout, but just as you may be Demon so can Jackal, Dirkzor or anyone else. So... yeah. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
unless an angel dies today, angels win like 90%. both the demon faction and town want to lynch an angel. All the demons have to do is put my vote on an angel and we'll know what's up. then, the demon hunter can kill a demon or myself, or the demon hunter and the last angel can split fire, one of them killing me and one killing a demon, or something. The point is, this is the best chance for town, and there's no reason for demons not to help. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
if you are asking the demons to help town win instead of letting the angels win, the demons will not acheive their win condition either way. so why would they help you? it isn't in their interest. GUYS IT ISN'T TO LATE TO USE BEHAVIOURAL ANALYSIS. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
look, we need to lynch an angel today or else angels win. Demons OR town both need this to happen. I see now reason why we wouldn't work together to do this. The fact of the matter is, the goals of Demon and town are the same during this specific moment in time. They will diverge as soon as the night begins since we'll need to start killing demons and CTs, but the point is, unless we kill an angel, they're probably gonna win. do you deny this? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Blazinghand
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
That way we know for sure whether we need to lynch HoD or not. A mislynch is BAD for your team today, give us the information and we can avoid it. Communicating with the demons via corrupted townies is allowed right? | ||
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