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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 06 2011 09:10 GMT
#1901
Man why when he commentating WHY! So not fair, i feel like a 10year old again and my mum has taken away my N64 for the week -_-
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Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 09:12:47
May 06 2011 09:11 GMT
#1902
Wow the mods are really swinging the ban hammer around up in here.

*RUNS FOR COVER*.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43568 Posts
May 06 2011 09:13 GMT
#1903
On May 06 2011 18:10 Zulueta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 17:18 Leach wrote:
Mhmm gotta say, I'm kinda disappointed. After all, we the fans suffer most and thats just not fair. I think it's wrong to just ban IdrA for flaming in his own Stream-Thread, but it's also childish to just stop streaming because he got banned, it's like punishing us for doing nothing....

Also i find it a little weak that IdrA lets a ladder game vs Cruncher get that close to him while he leaves other ladder games for no reason or for instance because he doesnt want to play vs a turtling 2 base protoss....

User was temp banned for this post.




Can´t get the BAN right here. No trolling/flamming. just giving his oppinion in an imho reasonable way.


@Jibba : He was talking about 2 more days of streaming (Friday/Saturday i guess) before leaving for 5 days in order to commentate on NASL if i´m correct.

Perhaps you should read the ban reason then.

Just to clarify, I fully intend to ban anyone who brings up the subject of the Idra ban here as there is a clear mod warning at the top of the page stating that this is not the place to discuss it and it will result in bans.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Allor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 09:19:22
May 06 2011 09:18 GMT
#1904
On May 06 2011 17:51 Duravi wrote:

All that log shows is how stupid it is for TL to keep operating how they have been in regards to Idra. Either ban the guy permanently, or let him say whatever the hell he wants to say. Threatening him with perma-ban several times and then never following through on it just shows that there is an unwillingness to do it. Letting your mods temp ban him but not perma ban him is only going to lead to more problems and I would guess (though I could be wrong this is just my opinion) it is very frustrating for some of the mods, make a decision. Regardless of whether you choose to let him speak as he wishes or ban him from the site it will make the mod's jobs much easier.


Why would IdrA get special treatment?

On May 06 2011 18:10 Zulueta wrote:

Can´t get the BAN right here. No trolling/flamming. just giving his oppinion in an imho reasonable way.


Because if you even mention "mod", "moderating", "moderation" or similar in this thread you get banned.

Special treatment?O_o


User was temp banned for this post.
SerraAngelDK
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark11 Posts
May 06 2011 09:26 GMT
#1905
honestly guys se the replay of Idra- Chruncher you can see that there is no idea that Chruncher could have known Idra is going to attack and right when the roaches walks the map he throws down 2 cannons and chrono his gate ways... Chruncher should be banned not Idra... Im expecting to be banned for this for reasons i dont understand.

User was temp banned for this post.
Cheesing is like rolling the dice.
s1eger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
May 06 2011 09:55 GMT
#1906
it was already asked but i cannot find the answer. idra's cursor is white. is it a problem with stream or is there any way to do so? because it seems so awesome and easy to see.
cOoL
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 06 2011 09:59 GMT
#1907
On May 06 2011 18:55 s1eger wrote:
it was already asked but i cannot find the answer. idra's cursor is white. is it a problem with stream or is there any way to do so? because it seems so awesome and easy to see.


its with the stream. It doesn't look like that for him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Nemara
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden69 Posts
May 06 2011 10:03 GMT
#1908
Love the commentary thing, I learn alot from listening, thanks for putting in the effort.

Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt.
Leavzou
Profile Joined January 2011
France156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 10:07:43
May 06 2011 10:07 GMT
#1909
On May 06 2011 19:03 Nemara wrote:
Love the commentary thing, I learn alot from listening, thanks for putting in the effort.

Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt.


It was the perfect response without scouting at all.

This response put you behind if your opponent does not all in.

People saw crunsher in the list during the game, but nobody took a proper SS.

It's obvious cruncher stream cheated but nobody has a proof.

So the official statement is "cruncher did not stream cheat", but in reality, cruncher stream cheated.
Nemara
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden69 Posts
May 06 2011 10:09 GMT
#1910
On May 06 2011 19:07 Leavzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:03 Nemara wrote:
Love the commentary thing, I learn alot from listening, thanks for putting in the effort.

Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt.


It was the perfect response without scouting at all.

This response put you behind if your opponent does not all in.

People saw crunsher in the list during the game, but nobody took a proper SS.

It's obvious cruncher stream cheated but nobody has a proof.

So the official statement is "cruncher did not stream cheat", but in reality, cruncher stream cheated.

It was a perfect response to what 90% of all zergs do in that situation, and what Idra does 100% of the time in that situation.
Leavzou
Profile Joined January 2011
France156 Posts
May 06 2011 10:11 GMT
#1911
On May 06 2011 19:09 Nemara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:07 Leavzou wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:03 Nemara wrote:
Love the commentary thing, I learn alot from listening, thanks for putting in the effort.

Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt.


It was the perfect response without scouting at all.

This response put you behind if your opponent does not all in.

People saw crunsher in the list during the game, but nobody took a proper SS.

It's obvious cruncher stream cheated but nobody has a proof.

So the official statement is "cruncher did not stream cheat", but in reality, cruncher stream cheated.

It was a perfect response to what 90% of all zergs do in that situation, and what Idra does 100% of the time in that situation.


People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.
Nemara
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 10:14:54
May 06 2011 10:14 GMT
#1912
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
May 06 2011 10:26 GMT
#1913
damn, people always trying to create more drama than actually needed. IdrA doesn't like Cruncher and he ignores him. Sniping on ladder and / or listening to his stream is so petty it doesn't deserve so many pages of flame wars
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Leavzou
Profile Joined January 2011
France156 Posts
May 06 2011 10:34 GMT
#1914
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote:
Show nested quote +
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.


Bad mindset.

Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind.
Mactator
Profile Joined March 2011
109 Posts
May 06 2011 10:41 GMT
#1915
On May 06 2011 19:26 Manimal_pro wrote:
damn, people always trying to create more drama than actually needed. IdrA doesn't like Cruncher and he ignores him. Sniping on ladder and / or listening to his stream is so petty it doesn't deserve so many pages of flame wars


I agree with you. Idra should just leave those games where Cruncher snipes him instead doing an allin in a game he doesn't really want to play. I hope that Idra will do more high quality commentaries in the future ( perhaps of custom games against players that he respects more) since I really enjoyed it.
Loooui
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden348 Posts
May 06 2011 10:58 GMT
#1916
On May 06 2011 19:34 Leavzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote:
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.


Bad mindset.

Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind.


That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks.

To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting.

This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene.
Leavzou
Profile Joined January 2011
France156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 11:05:37
May 06 2011 11:04 GMT
#1917
On May 06 2011 19:58 Loooui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:34 Leavzou wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote:
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.


Bad mindset.

Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind.


That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks.

To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting.

This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene.


I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match.

I did not take a SS, so I can't share it.

I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43568 Posts
May 06 2011 11:09 GMT
#1918
On May 06 2011 20:04 Leavzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:58 Loooui wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:34 Leavzou wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote:
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.


Bad mindset.

Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind.


That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks.

To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting.

This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene.


I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match.

I did not take a SS, so I can't share it.

I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof.

If he's playing sc2 fullscreen and the stream is muted then your proof isn't proof.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CuirassEU
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany24 Posts
May 06 2011 11:12 GMT
#1919
I do not have Twitter nor do i know how to contact Idra, but can anyone ask him to go on streaming because hes punishing his fans for his anger on someone whos by his own words not deserving that attention. I doubt hes angry on the fans.
I enjoyed his stream yesterday, Cant wait for more of it.
Loooui
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden348 Posts
May 06 2011 11:13 GMT
#1920
On May 06 2011 20:04 Leavzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 19:58 Loooui wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:34 Leavzou wrote:
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote:
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that.

If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games.


Bad mindset.

Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind.


That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks.

To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting.

This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene.


I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match.

I did not take a SS, so I can't share it.

I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof.


List of players in chat?!

The thought that someone smurfed his nickname occured to you?

And even if it was him he could have muted the sounds when he realised he met idra, etc. It is hard to call it real evidence for cheating. I myself have been laddering and had a good players stream up at same time, and then i faced him in ranked. I usually just mute it and go back to playing since it is pretty fun to read the chat after the game.
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