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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Sensator
Australia377 Posts
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KwarK
United States44203 Posts
On May 06 2011 18:10 Zulueta wrote: Can´t get the BAN right here. No trolling/flamming. just giving his oppinion in an imho reasonable way. @Jibba : He was talking about 2 more days of streaming (Friday/Saturday i guess) before leaving for 5 days in order to commentate on NASL if i´m correct. Perhaps you should read the ban reason then. Just to clarify, I fully intend to ban anyone who brings up the subject of the Idra ban here as there is a clear mod warning at the top of the page stating that this is not the place to discuss it and it will result in bans. | ||
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Allor
Sweden27 Posts
On May 06 2011 17:51 Duravi wrote: All that log shows is how stupid it is for TL to keep operating how they have been in regards to Idra. Either ban the guy permanently, or let him say whatever the hell he wants to say. Threatening him with perma-ban several times and then never following through on it just shows that there is an unwillingness to do it. Letting your mods temp ban him but not perma ban him is only going to lead to more problems and I would guess (though I could be wrong this is just my opinion) it is very frustrating for some of the mods, make a decision. Regardless of whether you choose to let him speak as he wishes or ban him from the site it will make the mod's jobs much easier. Why would IdrA get special treatment? On May 06 2011 18:10 Zulueta wrote: Can´t get the BAN right here. No trolling/flamming. just giving his oppinion in an imho reasonable way. Because if you even mention "mod", "moderating", "moderation" or similar in this thread you get banned. Special treatment?O_o User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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SerraAngelDK
Denmark11 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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s1eger
United States126 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 06 2011 18:55 s1eger wrote: it was already asked but i cannot find the answer. idra's cursor is white. is it a problem with stream or is there any way to do so? because it seems so awesome and easy to see. its with the stream. It doesn't look like that for him. | ||
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Nemara
Sweden69 Posts
Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt. | ||
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:03 Nemara wrote: Love the commentary thing, I learn alot from listening, thanks for putting in the effort. Btw, if you know Idras mentality, it's pretty obvious he's gonna all in from such a big deposit (talking about the Idra vs Cruncher game on his stream). It's not certain Cruncher was listening in, Idra always all in when nexus is finished before hatch starts. Cruncher is a top protoss and all flaming he gets is undeserved. Also, he didnt build alot of canons, he just made stalkers, which isnt an "all in" defense by any means. (Meaning if Idra dosnt attack, Cruncher is still fine.) People need to stop kissing Idra's butt. It was the perfect response without scouting at all. This response put you behind if your opponent does not all in. People saw crunsher in the list during the game, but nobody took a proper SS. It's obvious cruncher stream cheated but nobody has a proof. So the official statement is "cruncher did not stream cheat", but in reality, cruncher stream cheated. | ||
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Nemara
Sweden69 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:07 Leavzou wrote: It was the perfect response without scouting at all. This response put you behind if your opponent does not all in. People saw crunsher in the list during the game, but nobody took a proper SS. It's obvious cruncher stream cheated but nobody has a proof. So the official statement is "cruncher did not stream cheat", but in reality, cruncher stream cheated. It was a perfect response to what 90% of all zergs do in that situation, and what Idra does 100% of the time in that situation. | ||
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:09 Nemara wrote: It was a perfect response to what 90% of all zergs do in that situation, and what Idra does 100% of the time in that situation. People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that. | ||
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Nemara
Sweden69 Posts
People really should stop to be hypocritical. Cruncher did not ever do this response, idra does not all in every game vs FFE, he said that. If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games. | ||
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:14 Nemara wrote: If you do that opening, see zerg hasnt taken his expand yet whilst yours are done, and you dont prepare against a roach ling all in, you're bad and you'll lose 90% of your games. Bad mindset. Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind. | ||
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Mactator
109 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:26 Manimal_pro wrote: damn, people always trying to create more drama than actually needed. IdrA doesn't like Cruncher and he ignores him. Sniping on ladder and / or listening to his stream is so petty it doesn't deserve so many pages of flame wars I agree with you. Idra should just leave those games where Cruncher snipes him instead doing an allin in a game he doesn't really want to play. I hope that Idra will do more high quality commentaries in the future ( perhaps of custom games against players that he respects more) since I really enjoyed it. | ||
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Loooui
Sweden348 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:34 Leavzou wrote: Bad mindset. Because if the zerg saw that you did not scout, he can just expand and you are behind. That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks. To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting. This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene. | ||
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:58 Loooui wrote: That is one way to think about it, but even though Cruncher might not have scouted it he probably based his decision on previous games where idra all in after a late natural expansion when the protoss took fast nexus. Sure cruncher took a risk but this game is full of risks. To call Cruncher a cheater based on that he countered idras all in is ridicolous and makes no sense at all. You cannot say he cheated without any proof, and saying "his counter was to strong without scouting!" dosn´t count as proof. You know, there are things called game sense and luck in this game too. Every decision dosn´t have to be based on scouting. This new thing calling people to left and right "cheater!" must stop. Unless you have real proof you should not speak of cheating, it is devastating for the whole starcraft-scene. I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match. I did not take a SS, so I can't share it. I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof. | ||
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KwarK
United States44203 Posts
On May 06 2011 20:04 Leavzou wrote: I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match. I did not take a SS, so I can't share it. I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof. If he's playing sc2 fullscreen and the stream is muted then your proof isn't proof. | ||
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CuirassEU
Germany24 Posts
I enjoyed his stream yesterday, Cant wait for more of it. | ||
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Loooui
Sweden348 Posts
On May 06 2011 20:04 Leavzou wrote: I can't share the proof, but I know he cheated, I saw the account of Cruncher in the list of the players during the match. I did not take a SS, so I can't share it. I don't call someone a cheater if I don't have a proof. List of players in chat?! The thought that someone smurfed his nickname occured to you? And even if it was him he could have muted the sounds when he realised he met idra, etc. It is hard to call it real evidence for cheating. I myself have been laddering and had a good players stream up at same time, and then i faced him in ranked. I usually just mute it and go back to playing since it is pretty fun to read the chat after the game. | ||
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