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Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 06:46:48
November 06 2010 00:45 GMT
#1
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Ascend TV brings nothing but gaming, with a mix of Starcraft 2 commentary along with the occasional random PC and Console games. All streaming brought to you in 720p through JustinTV.

Thundertoss and I host a weekly Top 200 King of the Hill every Friday night. I can always see the chat on my 2nd monitor and will almost always response to direct questions. Feel free to chime in during any of our shows.

I will also occasionally offer up training, although I do not charge for training. I stream for the sake of e-sports, and I'd rather have support through watching the stream than by paying for training. There's much better players you can pay for anyways. I'm currently a 1700+ Diamond Zerg player with a gigantic bonus pool and intentions to enter the Master leagues.

As a software developer, I'm always looking for new ways to improve the quality of the stream. As time permits in the future, I'm looking forward to implement improved overlays, instant replay downloading (as they happen on-stream), interactive betting for players watching from the AscendTV Site, and much more.

Stream: http://ascendtv.com or http://justin.tv/ascendtv
Twitter: http://twitter.com/AscendSC2
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/ascendedguard
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
NsANe956
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
November 08 2010 03:07 GMT
#2
Alright I have a question for you. I am a gold level player and cant seem to counter early terran pressure well. If they go for a three or four barracks and make a lot of marines and mauraders, what should I do?
Arun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 19:18:31
November 20 2010 10:47 GMT
#3
Awesome channel.Top 200 koth is something to look forward to every week, with great commentary.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
December 24 2010 07:06 GMT
#4
How do I add you to my friends list? I want to see the matches by my self.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
January 10 2011 07:07 GMT
#5
Right now you're streaming Black Ops... have you played it on xbox or PS3? I am considering buying it for PC and I'm just wondering how you think it compares
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
January 28 2011 19:58 GMT
#6
@julianto: Ascend.920 is my character code in NA. However during our shows, we don't allow observers, just fyi.

@neSix: It's pretty good, I enjoy it a lot, but definitely don't think it's as good as Modern Warfare 2, just because of how much it's been simplified and how every match almost feels the same. I have it on the Xbox 360.

Sorry about the slow responses there.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
January 28 2011 20:08 GMT
#7
I've finally got around to editing the original post to reflect the direction the stream has taken. We're now on Justin.TV streaming at 720p with a much more consistent experience than what Livestream could provide. The website http://ascendtv.com is now up as well, providing some better full-screen viewers with collapsible-chat.

I've got a lot more things planned for the future. I definitely think some of the more professional streams could devote a little more time to providing a more interactive experience to their live viewers than what they currently do, and it's something I'm trying to work towards.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
thundertoss
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1166 Posts
January 31 2011 18:29 GMT
#8
love the new player intro overlays
Underneath David Kims banelings is another control group of banelings.
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
February 05 2011 03:29 GMT
#9
Great Chanel. Should be Featured.
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
February 05 2011 07:55 GMT
#10
thuuuuuuuuuuuuuunder broooooooooooo
I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of... ah forget it
Ubernoobface
Profile Joined December 2010
16 Posts
February 05 2011 09:03 GMT
#11
Great King of the Hill tonight, definitely should be a featured streamer.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
February 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#12
Glad to see you all enjoyed it, was a great show tonight
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
March 02 2011 01:55 GMT
#13
Hey, Just wanted to post a huge thank you for all the support and help you gave the toronto lan, it was blast working with ya, hope to do it again sometime! Cheers!

Semirhage
Profile Joined September 2010
44 Posts
March 05 2011 07:46 GMT
#14
Nice stream, with quality games casted during the Top 200 KOTH
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
March 12 2011 05:41 GMT
#15
Unusually good quality on the stream. Thumbs up!
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Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
March 13 2011 02:20 GMT
#16
I know it sounds random, but I'm more interested in the software-developer part. I'm interested in that. Is it interesting/worthwhile?
They're fools. You should eat them.
MESeidel
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany326 Posts
March 13 2011 03:50 GMT
#17
Sry to bother with OT.
But what is the tool to show hot key overlays on the icons on bottom right?
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:03:22
March 19 2011 03:03 GMT
#18
Amazing quality. Here's what I put in the JTV Invitational #2 thread:
I just want to comment on the great quality from Ascend's stream. The small overlay with the score is really sleek (the color of the player fading to the middle is a great touch) and the little pullouts that were used in the games to show the players' ladder rank and such were amazing touches. It reminded me of actual player profiles in basketball or something (sorry, I'm watching the Mavs and Spurs at the same time, haha).

Basically, I'm really happy with how quickly the quality of casting is improving. My hopes are high for the future.

Keep up the good work!
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
March 19 2011 03:29 GMT
#19
Ascend I have a question for you!

What overlay program are you using, I absolutly love it *_*
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
bejcon
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden5 Posts
March 19 2011 22:05 GMT
#20
Nice cast, like it!

Quick question: Is it possible to download the "score board" you're using? It's SO DAMN NICE!

Thanks / Victor
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#21
Not yet, made all the overlays myself using C# / WPF. Not sure when/if I'll be releasing them yet.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Groovy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada11 Posts
March 24 2011 03:40 GMT
#22
Ascend your stream quality and overlays / stuffs are VERY nice, keep up the good work!
MAXIMUM VOLUME YIELDS MAXIMUM RESULTS
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 24 2011 04:36 GMT
#23
I'm thinking i'll open source the scoreboard soon... stay tuned
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Priestofdoom
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
March 30 2011 03:02 GMT
#24
This should be a featured stream, the amazing stream quality, production and casting are a real credit to e-sports.
Checkmoica
Profile Joined January 2011
France30 Posts
April 03 2011 20:49 GMT
#25
Great stuff dude ! One question, how do you get a good stream quality like yours ? xD
Shit... Forgot my gaz again :/
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
April 08 2011 20:49 GMT
#26
@Checkmoica: Spend way too much time optimizing. I'm currently using a combination of FMLE, VhScrCap and Virtual Audio Cables to achieve 1080p @ 20fps w/ 4000kbps bitrate.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
bitter[KALT]
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States138 Posts
May 07 2011 05:39 GMT
#27
Hey Ascend, I just disabled adblocker just for you and thundertoss Seriously, you guys are doing a great job. Perfect quality, smooth casting, nice events. A shame that the Destiny showmatches are on pause tho....
TL, "if it's not college level eloquence you are probably gonna get banned"
BlackTactiks
Profile Joined May 2011
United States52 Posts
May 21 2011 04:58 GMT
#28
phantasy star oc remix ftw i wanna hear it
Working Towards Greatness :)
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
May 21 2011 08:22 GMT
#29
Hey, you give a good commentary and it's a nice stream ..
But please! As a caster, you should know the buttons to show us the apm and other tabs ... Not knowing these is just sad?
Second place is just a fancy term for loser
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
May 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#30
I know the hotkeys for apm and all the tabs... But they changed the APM overlay hotkey last patch away from Ctrl+M and I just haven't looked it back up.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 08:41:52
May 28 2011 08:40 GMT
#31
watching the top 200 koth, and my god minigun is such a fag, tries to warp gate all-in off 2 base and gets owned by drops. Minigun you're not good, gtfo! now vibe is miss controlling his army, don't lose to this noob!
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
June 02 2011 07:05 GMT
#32
awesome stream, keep it up
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 05:18:19
June 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#33
Seriously , how is this stream not featured based solely off of the top 200 koth they've been doing for such a long time now ?

I've been watching since they first started hosting the koth and the stream has improved by leaps and bounds. It is at the very least on par with and even exceeds some, if not most, currently featured streams as far as the quality of content delivered.

Just my opinion.
TO THE BANK! - stephano
SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
July 23 2011 04:48 GMT
#34
Hey I was wondering what hardware you have in your computer. I am curious what is needed to stream in HD.
All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince. -Plato
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
August 06 2011 04:54 GMT
#35
On June 11 2011 13:15 HyperLimen wrote:
Seriously , how is this stream not featured based solely off of the top 200 koth they've been doing for such a long time now ?

I've been watching since they first started hosting the koth and the stream has improved by leaps and bounds. It is at the very least on par with and even exceeds some, if not most, currently featured streams as far as the quality of content delivered.

Just my opinion.

It's listed above featured streams when Top 200 is on.

Great stream, keep up the fantastic production quality.
tQWannaBe
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada133 Posts
August 14 2011 03:07 GMT
#36
how come you are not featured yet
NO MERCY IN ENGINEERING
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
August 20 2011 07:23 GMT
#37
they no need featured, they have top200koth event
PEEFSMASH
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
August 20 2011 07:26 GMT
#38
I always look forward to the top 200 every friday!!
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
August 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#39
Preety great stream, nice to have something to watch at 6am lol great job guys, some good games, look forward to nect week. GG GL!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
September 03 2011 07:31 GMT
#40
Great stream, love the koth fridays, thanks for your hard work helping the community see more of the NA players in action.
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
September 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#41
Dear lord you need an option to lower the quality on your cast. I can't even watch some of the games because your stream lags so unbelievably badly.
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MyOwn!
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany2 Posts
September 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#42
this shit lags so hard..... better you didn't stream everythink fu
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
September 18 2011 22:40 GMT
#43
On September 19 2011 07:24 MyOwn! wrote:
this shit lags so hard..... better you didn't stream everythink fu


It's not actually his fault, but JustinTV's.. That said some owned TV alternative would be great in case something like this happens.
AKA SuddenSalad
TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
March 10 2012 13:49 GMT
#44
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!
When I feed the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why the poor have no food they call me a socialist
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 16 2012 06:38 GMT
#45
On March 10 2012 22:49 BioDiesel wrote:
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!


720p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 5
VBV: 3500kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

1080p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 4
VBV: 4800kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

Capture Source: BMIS for console games, DXtory source (1920x1080 output) for PC games.
All overlays are either static images, or XSplit plugins I built myself. These include:
Scoreboard - Starboard (I made it, I should probably use it)
Player Rankings at start of game, Voting results

Scene Switching during Top 200 - R1CH's XSplit Scene Switcher
Automatic overlay switching and hotkey presses before and after games, automatic scoreboard updating both at start and end of game: A custom app I built.

Hope that's enough information ;D
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
March 19 2012 16:37 GMT
#46
Awesome! Thanks for the info! All these settings are very confusing. I also had a bad cable modem I finally realized that was hampering my upload speeds so now that thats sorted and your settings things are working famously.
When I feed the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why the poor have no food they call me a socialist
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 19 2012 16:45 GMT
#47
On March 16 2012 15:38 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 BioDiesel wrote:
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!


720p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 5
VBV: 3500kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

1080p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 4
VBV: 4800kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

Capture Source: BMIS for console games, DXtory source (1920x1080 output) for PC games.
All overlays are either static images, or XSplit plugins I built myself. These include:
Scoreboard - Starboard (I made it, I should probably use it)
Player Rankings at start of game, Voting results

Scene Switching during Top 200 - R1CH's XSplit Scene Switcher
Automatic overlay switching and hotkey presses before and after games, automatic scoreboard updating both at start and end of game: A custom app I built.

Hope that's enough information ;D


Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#48
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 04:38:44
March 20 2012 04:24 GMT
#49
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 20 2012 06:30 GMT
#50
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 20 2012 08:06 GMT
#51
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
March 20 2012 10:03 GMT
#52
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 22 2012 03:23 GMT
#53
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've used the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for about the last year for streaming Xbox 360 and PS3, it's USB3 only and my PCI drivers have been starting to give BSOD issues...
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 22 2012 14:49 GMT
#54
On March 20 2012 19:03 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.



Now try encoding that with 1.5/2 cores dedicated to running SC2 smoothly

The whole screen region/dxtory thing is about ingame performance not encoding performance or stream quality
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#55
On March 22 2012 12:23 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've used the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for about the last year for streaming Xbox 360 and PS3, it's USB3 only and my PCI drivers have been starting to give BSOD issues...


ahh, i dont really know anything about how capture cards work, havnt looked into them as i had weirdly almost 0 performance hit from screen capture and i only have one PC worthy of encoding anything (no consoles etc)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
March 24 2012 04:26 GMT
#56
No show tonight?
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
March 24 2012 04:40 GMT
#57
On March 22 2012 23:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:03 CatNzHat wrote:
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.



Now try encoding that with 1.5/2 cores dedicated to running SC2 smoothly

The whole screen region/dxtory thing is about ingame performance not encoding performance or stream quality


I get no lag in game when allowing the OS to control which threads run on which cores, i see no reason to change that.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 07:08:01
March 24 2012 07:07 GMT
#58
On March 24 2012 13:26 KraVe wrote:
No show tonight?


Nope, no show. Conflicts with MLG, where Thundertoss is.

You would have known if you followed on twitter: http://twitter.com/ascendsc2 </shamelessplug>
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
March 24 2012 12:50 GMT
#59
Thanks! Not a twitter user but maybe I'll sign up
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
June 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#60
Watching you cast TSL at the moment, much obliged, jolly good show.
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