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Juissi
Finland209 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:40 Steveling wrote: I also agree, this spain from the last 4-5 years is propably one of the top 3 best nationals ever. Maybe the best. Yeah i agree with this. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:42 Shiori wrote: I'd probably say this. I'd say that Pele and Maradona or Ronaldo era teams are probably the most fantastic. 1970 Brazil might be a competition. Maradona's Argentina certainly weren't, they were carried by Maradona and had nothing like the depth of this Spain side. Not to mention they only won one World Cup and one Copa America. | ||
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: 1970 Brazil might be a competition. Maradona's Argentina certainly weren't, they were carried by Maradona and had nothing like the depth of this Spain side. Not to mention they only won one World Cup and one Copa America. I think you're underestimating how much having Maradona adds to your team, lol. I'd say 1970 Brazil is easily more legendary than this Spain team, though. They dominated everything, and convincingly. Spain hasn't been convincing outside of this game, lol. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:45 Shiori wrote: It was all there was back then. What I'm saying is that teams have dominated for stretches of time before. Either way, it doesn't matter, like I said, because being the best of all time is about being the best, not about winning for a long period of time. There are teams that won the WC once and nothing else that I'd put in the running for best national team ever. Every team that wins a World Cup plays great football. Winning 2 European Championships and a World Cup in a row is completely unprecedented. | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:42 Shiori wrote: I'd probably say this. I'd say that Pele and Maradona or Ronaldo era teams are probably the most fantastic. The Brazil 2002 WC squad could easily match up against this Spain squad. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:47 Shiori wrote: I think you're underestimating how much having Maradona adds to your team, lol. I'd say 1970 Brazil is easily more legendary than this Spain team, though. They dominated everything, and convincingly. Spain hasn't been convincing outside of this game, lol. They haven't even conceded a goal in the knock outs since 2006. They are dominant as it gets. Brazil didn't even win the 74 or 66 World Cup, in fact they didn't even make the final. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:42 Shiori wrote: I'd probably say this. I'd say that Pele and Maradona or Ronaldo era teams are probably the most fantastic. '78s argentina was a much much much better team than '86s argentina. Maradona didn't have the garrinchas and the rivaldos that Pele and Ronaldo had. That's why he's | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:47 foxmeep wrote: The Brazil 2002 WC squad could easily match up against this Spain squad. Yes, a midfield of Kleberson, Vampeta and Gilberto Silva would do well against this. Some people really have no idea how football works. | ||
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ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
would every euro team of 2012 defeat the world champions of 1954? probably yes. does that mean they played bad football back then? absolutely not. in addition to that: dont try to argue with aeroplane, he's a well known flamebaiter and doesnt accept opinions other than his own ;-) | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:47 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Every team that wins a World Cup plays great football. Winning 2 European Championships and a World Cup in a row is completely unprecedented. Yeah, it is, but this isn't the same team as Euro 2008. So while there may be a few Spanish players, like Iniesta, who can be called true legends, the team itself has changed greatly. Forgot about Brazil 2002. I don't think this Spain team would be able to handle Ronaldo. | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 02 2012 04:50 Shiori wrote: Yeah, it is, but this isn't the same team as Euro 2008. So while there may be a few Spanish players, like Iniesta, who can be called true legends, the team itself has changed greatly. Forgot about Brazil 2002. I don't think this Spain team would be able to handle Ronaldo. Ramos, Casillas, Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Torres and Fabregas all played in 2008. That's still the majority of the team. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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NuclearJudas
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DragoonTT
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TheConquereer
Spain183 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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