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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
September 14 2012 15:53 GMT
#141
I gota say this TSL4 was good, but TSL1 TSL2, had a way better reception overall, honestly I think TL went into TSL4 too fast, and the comunity couldn't make a lot of hype like the previous tournamnets , you guys should give more time to the users to get hyped and know the players we are going to watch
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Lustig
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany15 Posts
September 14 2012 22:35 GMT
#142
On September 15 2012 00:53 never_Nal wrote:
I gota say this TSL4 was good, but TSL1 TSL2, had a way better reception overall, honestly I think TL went into TSL4 too fast, and the comunity couldn't make a lot of hype like the previous tournamnets , you guys should give more time to the users to get hyped and know the players we are going to watch


Honestly I can only agree with this one. My first TSL was number 2. I was new to bw, didn't even know the techtrees but it was just amazing. TSL 3 was the first I followed from start to finish and I got really hyped over the Naniwa - Kas thingy and Thorzain just being badass.

But this TSL, I was disappointed. It all felt too fast and I had no time to watch all matches (4 bo5 on a weekend and I watched a bit if GSL aswell). It was just too much. In the end I quited after the ro16 and lost my interest. I missed the hype.
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
September 14 2012 23:59 GMT
#143
The one thing that bothered me throughout the entire TSL4 was the choppy streaming. Something tells me that whoever was streaming didn't have the proper rig/upload to stream...

No other stream was that bad. At one point in the RO16 the TSL streamer said "twitch is having problems" after the stream crashed, though after checking about 5-6 other (populated) streams everything seemed to work perfectly. That said, every stream on Twitch worked perfectly smooth except the TSL4 one, it seems incredibly random to me that i was the only one having problems (as some people claimed).

Could the TSL people please test the rig and connection they want to use a while beforehand?
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Goosestep
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany10 Posts
September 15 2012 12:58 GMT
#144
one word: bad !

User was banned for this post.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 15 2012 13:03 GMT
#145
On September 15 2012 21:58 Goosestep wrote:
one word: bad !


I think it'd be better if you went into some more detail about why you thought it was bad; just saying it's bad isn't really constructive nor helpful.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10346 Posts
September 15 2012 20:12 GMT
#146
I think lots of people are complaining about the speed, but do you realize that if they tried to build tension in a community like TL, with a finals/semis that was all Koreans... People would care even less. So many people here are all about the white boys, especially in what has been most commonly a foreigner tournament, heralded by a site that is also foreigner.
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HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
September 15 2012 22:20 GMT
#147
On September 15 2012 21:58 Goosestep wrote:
one word: bad !


Which incidentally is also the word I'd choose to describe your post history. (The one I'd guess for most predictive of your career on this site? Ephemeral.)

I really don't mind people offering legitimate, well-intentioned criticism of the TSL, even if they are two- or three-month members. If you think it's alright to whine in a content-free, one-liner though... grow up. That's some childish shit.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:56:00
September 15 2012 22:47 GMT
#148
On September 15 2012 08:59 ChromeBallz wrote:
The one thing that bothered me throughout the entire TSL4 was the choppy streaming. Something tells me that whoever was streaming didn't have the proper rig/upload to stream...

No other stream was that bad. At one point in the RO16 the TSL streamer said "twitch is having problems" after the stream crashed, though after checking about 5-6 other (populated) streams everything seemed to work perfectly. That said, every stream on Twitch worked perfectly smooth except the TSL4 one, it seems incredibly random to me that i was the only one having problems (as some people claimed).

Could the TSL people please test the rig and connection they want to use a while beforehand?

I had the same problems: Other streams worked fine but the TL stream never did. Eventually I gave up on it and stopped watching TSL4 altogether. You'd think with the established connection between Twitch and TL those problems would be worked out quickly, but that never happened really.

The artwork and colorscheme for TSL4 is certainly a matter of taste, but for me it was way too psychadelic and weird. I loved the charcoal portraits for TSL3 and enjoyed that event a lot more. Better story lines, offline finals, fun content ("jävla terran!", "CHILL GET OUT"), good music themes, all that jazz.

Then again, TSL3 happened at a time when there were not so many tournaments happening yet and a multi-week online tournament was a big thing. Nowadays, there is oversaturation and maybe there is no longer a niche for TSL. I guess we'll have to see how things will be in the months to come.
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AngelOvUriel
Profile Joined April 2011
Cuba91 Posts
September 19 2012 04:23 GMT
#149
No big stage for the finals?
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Titan999
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark67 Posts
September 20 2012 14:39 GMT
#150
On September 16 2012 07:20 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 21:58 Goosestep wrote:
one word: bad !


Which incidentally is also the word I'd choose to describe your post history. (The one I'd guess for most predictive of your career on this site? Ephemeral.)

I really don't mind people offering legitimate, well-intentioned criticism of the TSL, even if they are two- or three-month members. If you think it's alright to whine in a content-free, one-liner though... grow up. That's some childish shit.


I love your use of the word, Ephemeral. This is the exact reason why i spend time on this site.
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
September 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#151
On September 19 2012 13:23 AngelOvUriel wrote:
No big stage for the finals?

nope just replays...

On topic: I've been (and community) so spoiled by tournaments like DH, GSL that watching just replays casted via skype just doesnt cut it. I want to see the players, casters being in suites, hype, people screaming, If TSL5 will continue the same I will expect about 20,000 to watch finals... what was it on tsl3 finals 50k? and that was Live replays... TSL really needs to step up their game if they want to be at the top, otherwise just keep casting from replays, like Zotac, playhem etc.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
September 21 2012 14:31 GMT
#152
On September 21 2012 00:28 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 13:23 AngelOvUriel wrote:
No big stage for the finals?

nope just replays...

On topic: I've been (and community) so spoiled by tournaments like DH, GSL that watching just replays casted via skype just doesnt cut it. I want to see the players, casters being in suites, hype, people screaming, If TSL5 will continue the same I will expect about 20,000 to watch finals... what was it on tsl3 finals 50k? and that was Live replays... TSL really needs to step up their game if they want to be at the top, otherwise just keep casting from replays, like Zotac, playhem etc.


They're not trying to become an MLG, DH, GSL though. I'm pretty sure they like this format and I do too. It's nice to have a tournament with just really good games and solid casters. If every tournament were an MLG or GSL, it'd be kind of boring imo.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
September 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#153
The idea of inviting Koreans defeats the purpose of hosting a TSL. While TSL3 can be forgiven (since most of the Koreans got wiped out in the beginning rounds :D), TSL1 and TSL2 were FOREIGNER ONLY since TL was the only shelter for the foreign Broodwar community and it had the largest prize pool of all foreign Broodwar events.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
September 22 2012 00:55 GMT
#154
I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but TSL 1, 2, 3 all happened in times when there were very little tournaments foreigners could participate in, so it was bound to receive everyone's attention. TSL didn't need to do anything special. They stood out just by being a tournament. (That's not to say TSL 1, 2, 3 were bad; they were awesome) But that's just not the case now. There are tournaments everywhere every time. If TSL wants to be special again, they need to think of something very creative and revolutionary.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
September 23 2012 07:34 GMT
#155
On September 20 2012 23:39 Titan999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:20 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:58 Goosestep wrote:
one word: bad !


Which incidentally is also the word I'd choose to describe your post history. (The one I'd guess for most predictive of your career on this site? Ephemeral.)

I really don't mind people offering legitimate, well-intentioned criticism of the TSL, even if they are two- or three-month members. If you think it's alright to whine in a content-free, one-liner though... grow up. That's some childish shit.


I love your use of the word, Ephemeral. This is the exact reason why i spend time on this site.

Haha, thank you. I have to find some kind of use for these English degrees!

(R.I.P. Goosestep... we hardly knew ye.)
If it were not so, I would have told you.
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