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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
btw Chill what's your ladder rank ? | ||
Chill
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drcatellino
Canada346 Posts
Why are some of the TL people acting like elitist spoiled children ? And I don't say that everybody should like Husky, but if you are going to not agree with the choice, please bring some evidence instead of the usual "uhuhu Husky no knowledge". | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On March 13 2011 01:13 Chill wrote: And there are people who don't need indepth knowledge of the game to make an entertaining cast. There are also people who don't need to hear indepth knowledge of the game. You prefer Gretorp, I prefer Husky. Don't paint your opinion like it's the only one. Why did we have to pick Husky? I'm not the TSL organizer, but I would assume they chose the 4 who they thought would give the best overall product. I apologise if I didn't sufficietly clarify that my post only displays my opinion on the matter. TSL is going to be great no matter what, I am merely of the opinion that it could be even better and hence voicing my concerns about something that, in my opinion, could be improved. | ||
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Humdrum
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Lotar
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Coolwhip
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On March 13 2011 02:15 Humdrum wrote: Husky and DjWheat will tell you that they don't have the game knowledge of the other casters. However, is it really necessary for all of the casters to have in-depth tactical knowledge of the game? In just about every sports cast on the planet you have the play-by-play(Husky, Wheat, Tasteless) and the color commentator(Day9, Artosis, Chill). Why is it with starcraft, there is this need for both casters to play both roles? Personally, I find that if you have to two analytical casters together, it can often lead to a rather dull cast. That balance between entertainment/excitement and in-depth analysis creates a better production. Husky has too little knowledge. But that doesn't have to be an issue per se. The issue is that he rambles too fast, to the point where it's almost impossible to hear what he says. And he thinks it's the 'husky show' instead of sc2 commentary. There are much better options available. | ||
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:30 Chill wrote: Everyone has an opinion they think is the only one, lol. plenty of people think the casters are great they dont think their opinion is the only one trust me, its not only you who can feel the hate we disagree on details, but on TSL3 we agree it will be fun | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On March 13 2011 01:13 Chill wrote: And there are people who don't need indepth knowledge of the game to make an entertaining cast. There are also people who don't need to hear indepth knowledge of the game. You prefer Gretorp, I prefer Husky. Don't paint your opinion like it's the only one. Why did we have to pick Husky? I'm not the TSL organizer, but I would assume they chose the 4 who they thought would give the best overall product. Thousands of people seem to paint their opinions like it was the only one, weird.. Maybe it just isn't? Maybe for a good reason? Husky is known for being bad at the game and lacking game knowledge. He's also known for his bronze league viewership and his rivalry with IdrA. The majority of TL though, as far as I can tell, has got quite a decent level of play and would prefer quality casters over bullshitting casters. Sure there are people that just want to relax when watching a replay, but that's not worth inviting Husky and hence ruining the TSL for many people (at least for me it was quite an upset). But seriously, they can watch other stuff if they're not interested in high level stuff anyways. You say you don't need great ingame knowledge to make an entertaining cast. Now it's you painting your opinion like it was the only one. IMO you do need excellent game understanding to be entertaining. For me it's not entertaining listening to stuff like "He's pulling probes off the line!!!" or "Currently there are 2 medivacs flying across the map" - saying "uhm" would contain the same amount of information given that you are not blind. And about the stuff with pros casting. You did watch gsl 2 (I think it was), right? Where Tastosis dropped out and they had some korean guy casting together with some pros like IdrA etc. Those casts were amazing, although they've never cast before. TL made the wrong decision in my opinion, but I guess I will just have to put up with it. Too bad. | ||
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Yotta
United States270 Posts
On March 13 2011 01:57 Chill wrote: I'll give you a clue: I'm one of these: http://sc2ranks.com/search/exact/us/Chill rank 3 bronze, i see you've been practicing  | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:58 decaf wrote: Husky is known for being bad at the game and lacking game knowledge. He's also known for his bronze league viewership and his rivalry with IdrA. The majority of TL though, as far as I can tell, has got quite a decent level of play and would prefer quality casters over bullshitting casters. I doubt you have watched a game cast by Husky in the last few months, except possibly Jinro vs Tyler. Husky will draw in more viewers, which is good for the scene. Besides this, even if his game knowledge isn't on par with Day9, Chill, or DjWheat, he has cast enough games to get a respectable amount of game knowledge. Its not like your listening to Husky cast every game by himself in any case. More than enough people have expressed their opinions of Husky, why not discuss the maps or something else related? | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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On March 13 2011 02:58 decaf wrote: Thousands of people seem to paint their opinions like it was the only one, weird.. Maybe it just isn't? Maybe for a good reason? Husky is known for being bad at the game and lacking game knowledge. He's also known for his bronze league viewership and his rivalry with IdrA. The majority of TL though, as far as I can tell, has got quite a decent level of play and would prefer quality casters over bullshitting casters. Sure there are people that just want to relax when watching a replay, but that's not worth inviting Husky and hence ruining the TSL for many people (at least for me it was quite an upset). But seriously, they can watch other stuff if they're not interested in high level stuff anyways. You say you don't need great ingame knowledge to make an entertaining cast. Now it's you painting your opinion like it was the only one. IMO you do need excellent game understanding to be entertaining. For me it's not entertaining listening to stuff like "He's pulling probes off the line!!!" or "Currently there are 2 medivacs flying across the map" - saying "uhm" would contain the same amount of information given that you are not blind. And about the stuff with pros casting. You did watch gsl 2 (I think it was), right? Where Tastosis dropped out and they had some korean guy casting together with some pros like IdrA etc. Those casts were amazing, although they've never cast before. TL made the wrong decision in my opinion, but I guess I will just have to put up with it. Too bad. Did you just try to discredit Husky by talking up a cast with Jason Lee? Jason Lee never even played the game and was perfectly able to run a good cast. Just unreasonable hate imo. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Did you just try to discredit Husky by talking up a cast with Jason Lee? Jason Lee never even played the game and was perfectly able to run a good cast. Just unreasonable hate imo. Jason Lee tried to be good at it, though. And people also knew he was just standing in for Tastosis so it wasn't that big of a deal, because eventually we'd get the better casters back. The guys he had with him, the pros, made up for the lack of game knowledge. Out of the 4 casters you picked only one, Day9, got great game knowledge so I'm not sure how you gonna arrange it so that everyone feels satisfied. We'll see. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:58 decaf wrote: Thousands of people seem to paint their opinions like it was the only one, weird.. Maybe it just isn't? Maybe for a good reason? Husky is known for being bad at the game and lacking game knowledge. He's also known for his bronze league viewership and his rivalry with IdrA. The majority of TL though, as far as I can tell, has got quite a decent level of play and would prefer quality casters over bullshitting casters. Sure there are people that just want to relax when watching a replay, but that's not worth inviting Husky and hence ruining the TSL for many people (at least for me it was quite an upset). But seriously, they can watch other stuff if they're not interested in high level stuff anyways. You say you don't need great ingame knowledge to make an entertaining cast. Now it's you painting your opinion like it was the only one. IMO you do need excellent game understanding to be entertaining. For me it's not entertaining listening to stuff like "He's pulling probes off the line!!!" or "Currently there are 2 medivacs flying across the map" - saying "uhm" would contain the same amount of information given that you are not blind. And about the stuff with pros casting. You did watch gsl 2 (I think it was), right? Where Tastosis dropped out and they had some korean guy casting together with some pros like IdrA etc. Those casts were amazing, although they've never cast before. TL made the wrong decision in my opinion, but I guess I will just have to put up with it. Too bad. Husky isn't known for any of that. He is known as one of the most popular casters in all of eSports. People complain about his game knowledge and skill. His game knowledge is much better than he gets credit for. And about the bronze league viewership, one its much wider than that, and two, can't people in the bronze league watch the TSL3? I mean, isn't that a good thing, to get them interested in the pro scene? Maybe it will inspire them to be better, or to come to TL and join, or just get into the scene by watching more pro tournaments. And what the fuck is he supposed to say when he's casting when probes get pulled off the line? Every fucking caster says the same things. Do you know the job of a caster? Have you watched any sport before. Guy strikes out in baseball and you here Joe Buck say he strikes out. Then they add analytical stuff in. You don't need to be great at the game or have incredible game knowledge to be a caster. Was Joe Buck ever a great baseball or football player? Nope. Sure his knowledge is pretty good now after years of being in the booth, but he got there because he knows how to cast. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
Husky is known for being bad at the game and lacking game knowledge. He's also known for his bronze league viewership and his rivalry with IdrA. The majority of TL though, as far as I can tell, has got quite a decent level of play and would prefer quality casters over bullshitting casters. Sure there are people that just want to relax when watching a replay, but that's not worth inviting Husky and hence ruining the TSL for many people (at least for me it was quite an upset). But seriously, they can watch other stuff if they're not interested in high level stuff anyways. Wow. You can't be serious. Having 1 out of 4 casters whom you do not like is ruining the TSL? Fuck. I hope you're not this demanding in real life. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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drcatellino
Canada346 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
I'm not gonna lie though. I was really hoping for Stargirl T_T | ||
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