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the husky hate is pretty funny considering most of the criticism comes from people who started watching sc because of him, and now half a year later they're all pros on the game and husky's commentary sucks all of a sudden/it's for nubs.
L O L, only it's quite sad to see such disrespect, regardless of husky's arguable shortcomings or overgrowth of his casting style by spectators.
husky is a superb choice, since he brings the necessary entertainment value to the casting team, and to be frank, for pure entertainment value there's only tasteless and husky to be had, yet a. tasteless is a pretty busy man, and b., even if he wasn't, it's too much homegenity since he's been casting with day9 and tosis everywhere they had the chance.
chill and day9 are pretty funny too, but they're very analytical. wheat is pretty boring, though very professional.
the tl guys knew exactly what they were doing, and made an amazing (pr) choice, bringing a very popular caster, and bringing much needed diversity on the casting side to match the diversity on the player side
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very nice thread thank you
will read and edit
<<<<<<<3 wheat (and all the renowned others, just pointing to the man  )
husky should not get bashed! (this should be treated as a sort of "fan club rated policy" regarding this issue(s))
+ Show Spoiler +sc2 is his life and he is fun anyway
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I'm so excited about this event! The casters are awesome, the players are awesome and the maps are awesome!
What's not to like?
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Well done, especially the map modifications!
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On March 12 2011 20:40 anatem wrote:
the husky hate is pretty funny considering most of the criticism comes from people who started watching sc because of him, and now half a year later they're all pros on the game and husky's commentary sucks all of a sudden/it's for nubs.
Exactly what are you basing that on? Think before you speak.
I wouldn't call myself a fan of Husky in any sense of the word and rarely do I find myself talking about him. I'll have you know, Husky has no influence on me with regards to what I choose to watch. BW reached it's holy grail before Husky came onto the scene. It's foolish to speak for others when you have no connection to them whatsoever.
I've been here since day 1. It might be a whole different story for you, but that's mine. Speak for yourself, not for everyone else.
Think before you speak.
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On March 12 2011 22:36 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 20:40 anatem wrote:
the husky hate is pretty funny considering most of the criticism comes from people who started watching sc because of him, and now half a year later they're all pros on the game and husky's commentary sucks all of a sudden/it's for nubs.
Exactly what are you basing that on? Think before you speak. I wouldn't call myself a fan of Husky in any sense of the word and rarely do I find myself talking about him. I'll have you know, Husky has no influence on me with regards to what I choose to watch. BW reached it's holy grail before Husky came onto the scene. It's foolish to speak for others when you have no connection to them whatsoever. I've been here since day 1. It might be a whole different story for you, but that's mine. Speak for yourself, not for everyone else. Think before you speak.
You should note the key word 'most'.
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I love the choise of casters.
As for maps what is the reason for not including some of the new blizzard ladder maps? Some of them are quite decent.
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On March 12 2011 22:55 DumEN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 22:36 StarStruck wrote:On March 12 2011 20:40 anatem wrote:
the husky hate is pretty funny considering most of the criticism comes from people who started watching sc because of him, and now half a year later they're all pros on the game and husky's commentary sucks all of a sudden/it's for nubs.
Exactly what are you basing that on? Think before you speak. I wouldn't call myself a fan of Husky in any sense of the word and rarely do I find myself talking about him. I'll have you know, Husky has no influence on me with regards to what I choose to watch. BW reached it's holy grail before Husky came onto the scene. It's foolish to speak for others when you have no connection to them whatsoever. I've been here since day 1. It might be a whole different story for you, but that's mine. Speak for yourself, not for everyone else. Think before you speak. You should note the key word 'most'.
'most', which is a very well defined pronoun: for those who agree with the user, it means "all the criticism", but if someone disagrees, it means "a high percentage of the criticism".
In short, 'most' in that sentence was just a diplomatic way of discrediting everyone who disagrees with him.
Btw i watched a few Husky commentaries in the beginning of the beta, cause i had no account. And at first it was decent. My problem was, that when he got a ton of subscribers, he became cocky, and irritating.
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edit: important fact - i do agree husky's not among the very best commentators out there, but i believe his selection for the tsl was a very good decision, even though i personally am not a fan of his, and there could have been 1 or 2 better choices to put up against chill day and artosis (who are the magic trio of awesome). my argument wasn't about that
i said -most-, and this has nothing to do with bw, and yes, while i didn't specify 2 when mentioning starcraft, i think 1. it's pretty self-explanatory since we're talking about a sc2 caster, and 2. a fuckton of people picked up on bw coming from sc2 so ye, the guy has had an influence on that too, albeit indirect
what i base it on is the 200k subs husky and hd had before almost all other casters ever hit the scene (ofcourse, except the big guns of bw) combined with most of the haters here being around 10-500 posts, which is sc2 beta and onward join date of teamliquid, do the math. that's about a solid a data pool one can get to gauge caster influence on the scene
i'm a bw guy, and husky/hd have never been my cookie (even though i did use to watch casts of theirs pre-release mostly), and i've been following the sc2 scene hardcore since day 1 as well since i got a beta key, and i joined tl on the new wave even if i've been aware of this site for years, so i get your feeling perfectly.
however, people need to show some respect for the huge contribution husky and hd brought to the popularizing of the game and growth of the scene [+ add my previous post]. criticism is ok, individual taste is everyone's right, but you'd think tl's philosophy would be clear enough for people to be able to see the line between flaming and productive argumentation and not cross it so shamelessly, especially when the hypocrisy of a large segment of those people is blatantly obvious just by looking at the numbers and gauging probability. the argument should be clear now ?
ps specifically for startstruck, since his reply bothered me:
+ Show Spoiler +you need to relax and stop taking things so personally, and note repeating 'think before you speak' in the context of your tone and of the subject at hand expresses not pathos but patheticism. i respect others' points of view inherently and i made no (intentionally([this post should clear up the confusion] offensive arguments in my previous post, so you might want to reconsider being so laughably snobbish in your expression next time your emotions get the best of you
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I'm kinda disappointed with the choice if the casters :/ (well, with one of em)
it would of been cool if they got a pro that didnt make it in to cast. or mabye even artosis, that would have been the highlight of the year, but whatever, qualitiy's not gonna be as high as I expected it to be, too bad :/
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On March 12 2011 23:17 decaf wrote:
I'm kinda disappointed with the choice if the casters :/ (well, with one of em)
it would of been cool if they got a pro that didnt make it in to cast. or mabye even artosis, that would have been the highlight of the year, but whatever, qualitiy's not gonna be as high as I expected it to be, too bad :/
How do you know what he quality will be like before youve even viewed it? can you tell what the lottery numbers are tonight in the UK please?
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SC2 players are some of the whiniest people i have encounterd on the internet, if there was 99 top notch casters for TSL and 1 "bad" caster, then people would still cry about that 1 caster instead of realising there is 99 good ones. Stop being so greedy, you cant have everything you want and the world is not perfect and never will be.
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Amazing lineup, however (my opinion only), Husky feels out of place here a little bit.
I am not trolling or being mean, I just mean that I have a hard time listening to a caster that doesn't have qualifications in my book. Qualifications mean that you have to be on the level of games that you cast and commentate on. Husky is a low diamond player himself, and a few videos of him (complaining infested marine spam is unstoppable?) degrade his image in my eyes.
I just feel like the long awaited TSL3 is of much higher caliber.
Maybe others feel differently, maybe being a good vocalist of a commentator is reason enough.
We shall see
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On March 12 2011 23:17 decaf wrote:
I'm kinda disappointed with the choice if the casters :/ (well, with one of em)
it would of been cool if they got a pro that didnt make it in to cast. or mabye even artosis, that would have been the highlight of the year, but whatever, qualitiy's not gonna be as high as I expected it to be, too bad :/
Like who? You're suggesting we get someone who is good at the game, but has never casted before, to cast?
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Denying high-fives, I lol'd.
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On March 12 2011 23:47 cfnz wrote:
SC2 players are some of the whiniest people i have encounterd on the internet, if there was 99 top notch casters for TSL and 1 "bad" caster, then people would still cry about that 1 caster instead of realising there is 99 good ones. Stop being so greedy, you cant have everything you want and the world is not perfect and never will be.
When the 1 bad caster can easily be avoided that's when people complain. I don't like Husky's casting but that's not gonna stop me from watching TSL3. I'll just mute it when he's casting like I'm sure the majority of others that don't like him will do. I understand from a "marketing" perspective why they got Husky since his subs "should" generate more eyeballs on the stream. I don't blame them one bit for that. It is what it is.
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On March 13 2011 00:30 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 23:17 decaf wrote:
I'm kinda disappointed with the choice if the casters :/ (well, with one of em)
it would of been cool if they got a pro that didnt make it in to cast. or mabye even artosis, that would have been the highlight of the year, but whatever, qualitiy's not gonna be as high as I expected it to be, too bad :/ Like who? You're suggesting we get someone who is good at the game, but has never casted before, to cast?
Gretorp for example, or Incontroll, I'm sure there are people who have both indepth knowledge of the game and are decent at commentating. I can understand why TL wants more popular commentators (DjWheat) over others which would possibly provide a product more appealing to a crowd of people that is above average in terms of "skill", but really, why did you guys have to pick Husky?
I've admittedly only heard him cast once or twice, maybe it's due to my preference of a calmer style of casting, but the impression I got was that he's a beyond awful caster.
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omg surprise artosis scared the shit out of me LOL
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On March 13 2011 01:06 dismiss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 00:30 Chill wrote:On March 12 2011 23:17 decaf wrote:
I'm kinda disappointed with the choice if the casters :/ (well, with one of em)
it would of been cool if they got a pro that didnt make it in to cast. or mabye even artosis, that would have been the highlight of the year, but whatever, qualitiy's not gonna be as high as I expected it to be, too bad :/ Like who? You're suggesting we get someone who is good at the game, but has never casted before, to cast? Gretorp for example, or Incontroll, I'm sure there are people who have both indepth knowledge of the game and are decent at commentating. I can understand why TL wants more popular commentators (DjWheat) over others which would possibly provide a product more appealing to a crowd of people that is above average in terms of "skill", but really, why did you guys have to pick Husky? I've admittedly only heard him cast once or twice, maybe it's due to my preference of a calmer style of casting, but the impression I got was that he's a beyond awful caster.
And there are people who don't need indepth knowledge of the game to make an entertaining cast. There are also people who don't need to hear indepth knowledge of the game. You prefer Gretorp, I prefer Husky.
Don't paint your opinion like it's the only one.
Why did we have to pick Husky? I'm not the TSL organizer, but I would assume they chose the 4 who they thought would give the best overall product.
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this is the best map pool I've seen for a tournament this sounds spectacular, caster choice is also, in my opinion, the best that you guys could choose. husky draws a lot of flak from teamliquidians, but hes a good caster, if maybe not on par with day9 or chill, and he will draw in a lot of additional viewers. I'm even more pumped for this than I was before, and I didn't think that was possible!
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