edit: Okay I wasn't aware of the fact that tl are going to run an official bracket contest, but be aware that this isn't it! Maybe a mod should just shut this down?
Last TSL a TL member made a great addition to the whole TSL experience by running a prediction contest where people would c/p a full bracket and upload it. I remember having already made a bracket in paint when he posted the thread and it later turned out a 20 page thread or something like that.
I would have loved to make this a contest but I don't really have anything to give away as far as prizes go.
White-Ra has a good chance to take down any non-code S player on any day. I think he's going to prepare well for this tourny and it's a shame he'll be up against MC in the next round after he beats loner.
Kas is just amazingly good. If he beats haypro I think he has a decent shot against nada even.
Hasuobs vs Huk is going to be really interesting. I think hasu has a very clever and interesting PvP style but I'm somewhat unfamiliar with huk's PvP. Betting on hasu though.
Ret is going to tear down nestea in a low latency ZvZ. If this happens and ret gets to face idra in the ro8, that's going to be the games of the tournament for me.
TvT finals, could go either way but I believe in jinro. :3
On March 07 2011 03:18 Hoju wrote: They said there will be a bracket contest, so I'm sure there will be an official thread up for that soon
Wait they did? I missed that.. That's great though, contests like that make even the less interesting matches exciting. Not that there are a lot of uninteresting matches in tsl3.
does nestea ever lose zvz? I don't think ret has a chance against him really. nestea, jinro, idra and possibly huk could get to the final form the right side and MC or MVP from the left side imo.
Do you really think Idra takes on MVP? What is your reasoning for that? MVP is supposed to have a ridiculous win rate against Zerg. Not to mention Idra is probably mentally worried about playing MVP. Do you think the new maps will help that much?
On March 07 2011 03:20 holynorth wrote: Why do you think Ret will beat Nestea? I don't even think Ret gets past Naniwa, let alone the top Zerg player.
I think Ret can beat Naniwa(even when Naniwa is playing well) but man I just can't see any logic leading to "Ret defeats Nestea". What is the indication that such a thing could happen?
On March 07 2011 03:20 holynorth wrote: Why do you think Ret will beat Nestea? I don't even think Ret gets past Naniwa, let alone the top Zerg player.
I think Ret can beat Naniwa(even when Naniwa is playing well) but man I just can't see any logic leading to "Ret defeats Nestea". What is the indication that such a thing could happen?
It's fanboy logic. You don't need to understand it, make your own predictions if you like. I just think ret is an amazing player and that if he has time to prepare for a specific match then he can conquer anyone. Then there's the fact that it's ZvZ which brings in a lot of randomness in the mix. We'll have to see what happens!
And ret beat naniwa pretty convincingly at assembly along with a lot of other foreigner gosu's.
On March 07 2011 03:20 holynorth wrote: Why do you think Ret will beat Nestea? I don't even think Ret gets past Naniwa, let alone the top Zerg player.
I think Ret can beat Naniwa(even when Naniwa is playing well) but man I just can't see any logic leading to "Ret defeats Nestea". What is the indication that such a thing could happen?
This is a fun bracket contest. There doesn't have to be any logic to it.
This is exactly how my bracket would look, and I think alot of peoples brackets will look so I'm not going to bother making a new one only thing that might change is some of the round one stuff.
I was originally gonna have Jinro but remembered at the last moment that he hates playing protoss. Have Huk>Jinro for that sole reason. Plus the fact that they train together, Huk will abuse those phoenix's.
I'm really looking forward to the Slayers_Boxer-NightEnd,EGIdra-Cruncher and Zeerax-Mondragon matches.
Why?
First of all i really want to see Boxer playing against europeans again.
Second,there is a little grudge between idra and cruncher.Idra called him a noob in a ladder match between them .And i love games with a little grudge between them .
And third,Zeerax is a less known player (at least i haven't seen him until the TL Open qualifiers) and i haven't seen Mondragon play yet in a major tourmanent (i mean i haven't catched one in a live stream).So it's a basically unknown match for me.
You guys anything can happen You fanboys are underestimating the other competitors and relying on Jinro/MVP too much coz of past achievements. Look they are out of GSL now... Well Group will be tough because we might have some PVPs and that can go either way but MC is the one to beat here. Group 2 is gonna be a TVT fest, Nada and MVP can go either way.In group 3, It will depend on huk vs jinro i think. Group 3 will be ZVZ, Nestea ZVZ is great but the matchup is still like tossing a coin. I don't like how the brackets came out though, most will end up in mirror match ups but i might be wrong.
On March 07 2011 03:48 Akash wrote: I'm really looking forward to the Slayers_Boxer-NightEnd,EGIdra-Cruncher and Zeerax-Mondragon matches.
Why?
First of all i really want to see Boxer playing against non-koreans again.
Second,there is a little grudge between idra and cruncher.Idra called him a noob in a ladder match between them .And i love games with a little grudge between them .
And third,Zeerax is a less known player (at least i haven't seen him until the TL Open qualifiers) and i haven't seen Mondragon play yet in a major tourmanent (i mean i haven't catched one in a live stream).
99% sure IdrA has a "grudge" with everyone, or at least according to the community
I think it will be a IMMvp will win, with either HuK or Jinro as 2nd.
Goody might go far since the koreans will just be confused when he turtles until he has 200/200 mech army :D
On March 07 2011 03:26 rysecake wrote: Fuck Duke btw...
Why???
I go to the University of Maryland =)
It's a school for people with Tourette's? Not that Tourette's would show up in an online forum... It's a school for assholes?
Did you go to Duke by any chance? haha
edit: ah some googling says you did. Nah we're not assholes. We don't hate the school, just the basketball team haha. Nothing like a little friendly rivalry.
He went to Duke.. That's why whenever he says something that pisses me off, I get less mad. "Take it easy, aayaa, he went to Duke, he can't help himself."
alot of this will depend on how series the koreans take this tourny.
ie: will they practise for their match up if their GSL match up is completely different? how much lag will effect them playing from korea? will they study foreigner play?
imo Tyler (and maybe mondragon) are going to be darkhorses, we rarely get to see them play and Tyler is always going on how how he is preparing builds, practising now but not showing them. If he does get super serious about SC2 I would say he stands a chance VS someone like MC on the NA servers or if MC is focusing on a different match up (4 GSL) that week. But if he hasnt been putting in the time MC should just roll over him
I predict IMNestea to win. His decision making is off the chain and with the larger maps, I think it will allow him to play really well against the terran power houses, which I think will make it really far. And this is how he will do it: + Show Spoiler +
I'm surprised by much of the sentiment in this thread - people seem to expect the europeans to be able to compete with the koreans and code S players. ZeeRax, really? Mondragon? If you've been watching the GSL you'd realize how much better the Code S players are - it would be like a college basketball team beating a pro team. I would not be at all surprised if not a single european player beat a Code S player.
i'm not trying to take anything away from these guys, I just think they are going to be far outclassed by the Code S'ers.
From what I see, all of the highest profile players are intelligently matched so expect to see those guys win the first round at least. MVP vs Nestea final looks likely
Nestea is going to take this in the finals against White-Ra, Haypro is going to play the games of his life, Mondi is going to eat Idra alive, Nightend will rofelstomp Boxer and Jinro will only get beaten by the master himself. + Show Spoiler +
EDIT: Also possible: Strelok switches to LoL and Select will take this Tournament no problem. Highly unlikely, but possible.
5/8 ro8 spots taken by Koreans, with the 3 remaining spots taken by Idra, Jinro or Huk, and TLO (the 4 foreigners who have done well in GSL). Expecting another IEM except much more one-sided.
lol @ people thinking ret will beat nestea.. NESTEA is GOD of ZVZ, no one will disagree. 5-0 on zenio, 2-0 on the wind, 2-0 sen, 1-0 fruitdealer, dude is undefeated in ZVZ.
This is so awesome. I think some underdogs will surprise...Thorzain, Cruncher or Mondragon maybe. I hope some non-Korean (even the ones who have been to korea) makes it in the end, to show that theres hope for the non-Korean competitive SC2 scene. ...well...and i'm rooting of course for the Ger players...especially TLO!
lots of mirror matchups, but that is just the way i predict. I think NesTea realistically will win vs IdrA, but I'm IdrA's #1 fan, and i think he honestly does have a shot.
though i have an alternative in mind with several of those being different, realistically i don't see jinro making the finals and i'm pretty sure about a couple relative upsets, but i'll stick to this for now
btw Tyler beats MC (I don't see MC beating two of the best protoss outside of Korea in a row with all the latency and the fact that it is PvP (Tyler and White-ra))
1) I have every Korean advancing. They're just better. The Koreans at IEM were eliminated from Code A....and wrecked everyone else. The Koreans in TSL were not eliminated from Code A.
2) Zeerax earned his way in recently. Mondragon earned his way in a year ago...and I haven't heard from him since. It's not like I've been following Zeerax and have insider knowledge that he'll dominate. But I rate more recent accomplishments more highly.
3) Tyler is weak PvP and the first P he'll run into will be MC. Yeah...that's not going to end well for your defending champ.
4) NesTea is a beast, but ZvP doesn't work at the moment. He won't have to play it until the finals, and it's there that he'll lose to MC.
5) Toughest predictions:
NesTea over Jinro: when in doubt, I'm going with the Korean. MC vs. MVP: I don't think TvP lategame has been figured out well enough. MC won't lose early game. Thus, I like his chances.
he beating strelok: ok, thats possible. but its pretty much 50/50. tyler vs fruitdealer. kidding me? wtf?
furthermore you count hasuobs and kas as walkovers for huk/haypro, i couldnt disagree more. Last thing about your zeerax/mondragon thing: zeerax is ok, but not a really good eu-protoss. mondragon plays some recently and just reached 4k @ ladder, beating mana 3-1 in a recent tour. it could go either way, i agree, but dont count mondragon out just cause he didnt show anything big yet [i agree, that almost any other player but zeerax would be hard for mondragon]
I think because of the lag, and the koreans not practicing as hard for the match's as in GSL, it may cause to be different but, we will see. Some things to note: I do believe Hasu has the advantage over huk, hasu is really good in pvp. I don't really see anyone who can stop nestea until he reaches the finals, on the other bracket I will give the edge to MVP over MC.
btw Tyler beats MC (I don't see MC beating two of the best protoss outside of Korea in a row with all the latency and the fact that it is PvP (Tyler and White-ra))
I think you dont understand how good koreans are at this game. Tyler hasn't even had the opportunity to play someone at MC's or FD's level. He has no idea what they are going to bring to the table. As good as tyler is... Koreans > talent srsly. they are fucking monsters
On March 07 2011 07:33 DiaBoLuS wrote: i rly like how much you overrate tyler xd
he beating strelok: ok, thats possible. but its pretty much 50/50. tyler vs fruitdealer. kidding me? wtf?
furthermore you count hasuobs and kas as walkovers for huk/haypro, i couldnt disagree more. Last thing about your zeerax/mondragon thing: zeerax is ok, but not a really good eu-protoss. mondragon plays some recently and just reached 4k @ ladder, beating mana 3-1 in a recent tour. it could go either way, i agree, but dont count mondragon out just cause he didnt show anything big yet [i agree, that almost any other player but zeerax would be hard for mondragon]
Fruitdealer's recent play has been lackluster at best. I think tyler has a very good shot at beating him if that match comes up.
On March 07 2011 07:33 DiaBoLuS wrote: i rly like how much you overrate tyler xd
he beating strelok: ok, thats possible. but its pretty much 50/50. tyler vs fruitdealer. kidding me? wtf?
furthermore you count hasuobs and kas as walkovers for huk/haypro, i couldnt disagree more. Last thing about your zeerax/mondragon thing: zeerax is ok, but not a really good eu-protoss. mondragon plays some recently and just reached 4k @ ladder, beating mana 3-1 in a recent tour. it could go either way, i agree, but dont count mondragon out just cause he didnt show anything big yet [i agree, that almost any other player but zeerax would be hard for mondragon]
Fruitdealer's recent play has been lackluster at best. I think tyler has a very good shot at beating him if that match comes up.
^^This. Also, the ZvP thing. I'm not qualified to say that it's imbalanced, but it doesn't look good.
As for treating HasuObs and Kas as walkovers, I didn't even mention them. The great thing about this tournament is that there aren't any weak players and thus no weak matches. To me, the difference is Korea. Huk and Haypro are practicing with oGs and on the Korean ladder. That strikes me as better practice than you can get pretty much anywhere else.
On March 07 2011 07:33 DiaBoLuS wrote: i rly like how much you overrate tyler xd
he beating strelok: ok, thats possible. but its pretty much 50/50. tyler vs fruitdealer. kidding me? wtf?
furthermore you count hasuobs and kas as walkovers for huk/haypro, i couldnt disagree more. Last thing about your zeerax/mondragon thing: zeerax is ok, but not a really good eu-protoss. mondragon plays some recently and just reached 4k @ ladder, beating mana 3-1 in a recent tour. it could go either way, i agree, but dont count mondragon out just cause he didnt show anything big yet [i agree, that almost any other player but zeerax would be hard for mondragon]
Fruitdealer's recent play has been lackluster at best. I think tyler has a very good shot at beating him if that match comes up.
^^This. Also, the ZvP thing. I'm not qualified to say that it's imbalanced, but it doesn't look good.
As for treating HasuObs and Kas as walkovers, I didn't even mention them. The great thing about this tournament is that there aren't any weak players and thus no weak matches. To me, the difference is Korea. Huk and Haypro are practicing with oGs and on the Korean ladder. That strikes me as better practice than you can get pretty much anywhere else.
wont comment that too much^^ you guys compare mondragon with idra, ret, nestea. its basically nestea....... idra.. ret ......... mondragon atm. some heavily overrate him, some seem to even not know him and put zeerax to win it. too bad the 2 worst players [at the moment, i know mondragon potential etc] of this whole grid (besides cruncher) play against each other.
to your haypro thingy - would love to see a 3 way tie beween kas, tyler and haypro just to demonstrate what i mean
€: concerning fruitdealer: ofc, hes not what he was in GSL 1. BUT: he was quite unlucky at gsl recently. + he is zerg - even the best zerg in the world, nestea, has to play up&down matches. I wouldnt even give tyler 10% vs fruitdealer, i didnt like tylers play too much (besides the dobble forge, nice thing to do!) tbh, for me theres not too much of a difference between him, huk, hasu, adel and nightend, huk being the strongest of them by a bit.
Almost looks like a popularity bracket than a tournament bracket, but when you invite the highest leveled Korean players this is what happens.
Almost complete Korean dominance throughout the whole tournament, the only ones I had real problems predicting was BoxeR vs. Sen, Tyler vs. MC and NaDa vs. Mvp. I'm also afraid I might be overestimating MorroW, but I'm willing to believe he can pull that off.
I also made an in-depth prediction and analysis of the first round match-ups - http://pastebin.com/vCCeG3QJ (Warning, walls of texts)
Upper left: Protosses are going to dominate this section, and I can't really give MC the clear advantage due to the nature of the MU, because of that, I feel it's really up for grabs for any of the Proud sons of Aiur.
-Nony advances to quarterfinals.
Lower left: MVP has this, unless TLO can mastermind some insane upset build from the pits of hell that is abusive as all shit. MVP should have this section.
-MVP advances to quarterfinals.
Upper right: Liquid member's coming out of that. Either Huk or Jinro. None of the other players there feel like they're in the same class as those two. That being said, Jinro's probably the safer bet considering Huk's got a PvP first round. If he can get past Hasu though, it's a toss up.
-Huk/Jinro advances to quarterfinals depending on the Hasu vs Huk game.
Lower right: Same as upper left, but with Zergs. Idra has a solid ZvZ that could for sure eliminate Nestea if he's on his game, and who know's what Mondi is up to. Ret is always a threat if he learns to make a unit other than drones.
-A zerg advances.
Semi #1- Nony vs MVP:
Sorry Nony. I've always felt you were one of the most comprehensively masterful RTS players in the world, but I can't see this happening. That being said, MVP isn't without holes, every play has a weakness, and if anyone can find a hole, it's Mr. "...ilikecats....aka...catssss...aka....MEEEERRRROOOWWWWW! gigglesnort* "
-Nony advances (MAKE IT HAPPEN MAN.)
Semi #2- Liquid vs a Zerg:
Feels like Liquid has Idra's number lately and because of that I just can't see him taking a win over either member when they come in with the prepared plans of our resident Ring Wraith. Any other player is a crap shoot, but with Nestea most likely taking this semi.
FINAL Nony vs Nestea (just because I don't want to actually admit freaking Zergbong will make it this far doesn't mean I'm stupid)
NONY. That is all. Nony will be your TSL3 champion and continue his benevolent reign from on high.
On March 07 2011 07:33 DiaBoLuS wrote: i rly like how much you overrate tyler xd
he beating strelok: ok, thats possible. but its pretty much 50/50. tyler vs fruitdealer. kidding me? wtf?
furthermore you count hasuobs and kas as walkovers for huk/haypro, i couldnt disagree more. Last thing about your zeerax/mondragon thing: zeerax is ok, but not a really good eu-protoss. mondragon plays some recently and just reached 4k @ ladder, beating mana 3-1 in a recent tour. it could go either way, i agree, but dont count mondragon out just cause he didnt show anything big yet [i agree, that almost any other player but zeerax would be hard for mondragon]
Fruitdealer's recent play has been lackluster at best. I think tyler has a very good shot at beating him if that match comes up.
^^This. Also, the ZvP thing. I'm not qualified to say that it's imbalanced, but it doesn't look good.
As for treating HasuObs and Kas as walkovers, I didn't even mention them. The great thing about this tournament is that there aren't any weak players and thus no weak matches. To me, the difference is Korea. Huk and Haypro are practicing with oGs and on the Korean ladder. That strikes me as better practice than you can get pretty much anywhere else.
wont comment that too much^^ you guys compare mondragon with idra, ret, nestea. its basically nestea....... idra.. ret ......... mondragon atm. some heavily overrate him, some seem to even not know him and put zeerax to win it. too bad the 2 worst players [at the moment, i know mondragon potential etc] of this whole grid (besides cruncher) play against each other.
to your haypro thingy - would love to see a 3 way tie beween kas, tyler and haypro just to demonstrate what i mean
€: concerning fruitdealer: ofc, hes not what he was in GSL 1. BUT: he was quite unlucky at gsl recently. + he is zerg - even the best zerg in the world, nestea, has to play up&down matches. I wouldnt even give tyler 10% vs fruitdealer, i didnt like tylers play too much (besides the dobble forge, nice thing to do!) tbh, for me theres not too much of a difference between him, huk, hasu, adel and nightend, huk being the strongest of them by a bit.
I really hope all the mondragon hate is trolling, because he's going to rock this bracket, just like he always did in BW. Never count out mondragon, he's probably one of the most talented players in the world.
Also, calling Fruitdealer the best zerg in the world is just an insult to every good zerg out there. In his GSL 1 form, you might be able to make that argument, now, I think just about any liquid or EG zerg has him beat, and probably a few from Fnatic, ROOT, and vVv.
I don't think there will be too many upsets, it doesnt seem reasonable. BoxeRs play is questionable, so I might be wrong about him. Mvp might falter as well... We'll see. + Show Spoiler +
Are you guys seriously thinking Huk and Jinro are on the same level? No disrespect to Huk, he's an excellent player but he's struggling in code A whereas Jinro is constantly pwning the best players in the world in code S..
Although this probably won't hold true for many around here, for me the most exciting matchup early on is Huk vs Hasu. Hasu has been sick good recently and his PvP is unpredictable even measured on the standards which is the current PvP. I think Hasu has the biggest chances for an upset in Ro32, I would be surprised if any other underdog would make it through.
Really dont think Boxer will make it so far that rysecake's thinking, he dont preform as good as he could. Maybe NesTea beats Idra but want to cheer for foreigners.
Also thinks Thorzain may beat Fruitdealer but thats just cause hes from sweden .
Really dont think Boxer will make it so far that rysecake's thinking, he dont preform as good as he could. Maybe NesTea beats Idra but want to cheer for foreigners.
Also thinks Thorzain may beat Fruitdealer but thats just cause hes from sweden .
What u think im wrong about?
maybe tyler r2/3, ret r2, haypro r1, fenix r1/2 but anything could happen.
Hard to predict upsets this early in Starcraft 2, since we haven't seen a full glimpse of foreigners vs Koreans in action yet, although if IEM was any indication.....
Top 4 all Teamliquid guys with Tyler taking the Finals. I Honestly don't see why everyone is putting MVP in the finals he has to play against the lag and while I think he is a great player I think this is really going to go to a foreigner.
There are some BIG decisions that i could barely make here lol and i will probably change my mind on ten minutes later.
White-Ra - Loner is an interesting match up and i'm really not sure how it'll turn out.
If any foreigner could surprise MVP with an interesting different style i think it would adelscott but obviously i would never actually predict that outcome lol but its something i can almost see happening and i'm very excited to see the matches.
qxc - genius is something of a tossup, genius can sometimes look weak to my eyes but qxc has not been playing at his best lately and vP is possibly his weakest matchup. i can definitely see him winning though.
Nada - TLO oh fuck i am excited for this game, i have no idea how this could go and it hugely depends on if TLO plays random or not. if TLO plays terran or rolls terran enough i can definitely see him winning this.
Kas - Haypro is interesting, both are somewhat underrated players i feel and its a very competitive match but frankly i was watching his stream today and haypros ZvT looks very very good
Tyler - fruitdealer i predict this match and really hope it happens but you know i really think tyler can take it, really hope it happens!
MC - Tyler again i really fucking hope for this game but as jinro once said "MC does not lose PvP"
MC - MVP the player that wins this game can legitimately claim to be the best player in the world by some distance i think. it was MVP last time but hes starting to look a little more human lately and i think MC will get more of a chance to show how good he can be but this if it happens will be the best match in the whole damn tournament.
As for the other side i guessed the greater SC2 experience means zeerax will beat mondragon but i know little of eithers play really so guessed zeerax. ret naniwa could be a great match but i think rets korean practice will probably mean victory and i believe he won the last time they faced? also for similar reasons to the adel-MVP match i think if anything could fuck nestea up it would be something unusual like goodys style of play but i'm still not gonna bet against him cause hes bloody nestea!
HuK - Jinro is a match i've wanted to see for a long time and i don't think they've ever publicly played but as much as jinro is the hero of everyone on this site after seeing huk take down MVP on his stream i just thought "yeah huks got this".
Huk - Boxer wow. as much as Boxer is Huks idol i really think he is a lot better than boxer now but what a story for a match
Nestea - Idra. I don't know ZvZ too well and i know how volatile it can be so i've just guessed this and i think idras a great player so i went for him. its partially so i can set up a next match that i've wanted to see for a long time.
Huk - Idra. People overuse the word "grudgematch" and love to exaggerate drama between players but i don't think it would be wrong to say that the players would feel this match a little more than most i'm a total fanboy of both these players so it as really hard for me to choose but i eventually chose idra. i think given current practice levels, the state of PvZ and to some extent huks recent performance (is it just me or his play just unrecognisably better than before? and he was fucking good before too!) huk goes into this almost as a favourite but i think idra almost seems to have a psychological edge on him in tournaments so i went for him.
My final MC - Idra i can't see idra beating MC somehow. i really don't think he'll make the little mistakes that any other protoss would giving idra a chance but i definitely think it'll be competitive and worthy finals! i can't wait as you might have noticed by me writing a damn essay about my hand wringing over who will beat who lol
With the first round being Bo3, and the sheer nature of this game (build order wins, snipe builds, trickery), I think we'll see plenty of upsets. Will there be an official bracket competition, or is this all we've got?
On March 08 2011 22:06 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote: With the first round being Bo3, and the sheer nature of this game (build order wins, snipe builds, trickery), I think we'll see plenty of upsets. Will there be an official bracket competition, or is this all we've got?
No there will be an official bracket contest. Also agreed I'm sure there will be some real upsets in ro32.
I would love to pick TLO but Nada is so gosu. Also Nestea vs Ret and Nestea/Ret vs Idra ZvZs are pretty certain but its hard to pick winner of those. I truly hope Jinro makes it to final and takes the games from MC, but MC is still the favourite to win the whole thing imo.
If this were played on LAN I would have a lot of confidence in these preds. However, most likely it will come down to which server the game is hosted on for a lot of matchups.
In a few months, everyone will look back on this in awe >> + Show Spoiler +
The Close/Awesome Series:
Thorzain vs. Fruitdealer Thorzain is one of the most underrated players around, watching his stream tells all.
IM.MVP vs MVP.Genius Great matchup between two of the best players in the world.
IM.MVP vs oGs.Nada Undoubtedly the best TvT series possible to occur.
IM.MVP vs oGs.MC Two GSL Champs fighting for the finals of TSL! Best Terran vs the best Protoss. I shouldn't have to say more...
Liquid' Jinro vs Liquid' Huk The best of Team Liquid duking it out to face the Emperor. It's gonna be close, hard to call.
SlayerS_Boxer vs Liquid' Jinro The best member of Team Liquid vs The Emperor. Need I say more?
EG.Idra vs IM.Nestea Quite possibly the two best Zergs in the world in an epic ZvZ series.
Liquid' Jinro vs IM.Nestea The match where Jinro can finally prove his TvZ against the strongest Zerg in the world. Undoubtedly, it's going to be a very close series.
The Finals oGs.MC vs IM.Nestea After a grueling tournament of top players, these two emerge to fight for the Gold of TSL. Long macro games with intense micro and crazy unit compositions are the norm in this series. Will not let you down.
I'm the new Paul the Octopus! You're awesome if you get this.^
World Cup reference eh? Anyways, I forsee top 8 being Koreans + Liquid members/Idra. As much as I love Adelscott and White-Ra, I don't see them making it out of their tough groups :[ It'd be amazing though if one of the more unknown players make a deep run, like ZeeRax who has put up some nice games in the past.
I'm surprised so many have MVP winning, not that he isn't amazing but to me it just seems obvious that MC is just so much stronger and more consistent in his play. That being said, I think picking MC to win is a little too "safe". I'm going to mix it up a bit by going with Jinro. I believe he can definitely do it. His vP is also underestimated, look what he did to MC last season. Even if right now his vP isn't the best it's been, I know he has the potential to play top level TvP. That being said, Here are my brackets.
On March 10 2011 03:00 Servatose wrote: I'm surprised so many have MVP winning, not that he isn't amazing but to me it just seems obvious that MC is just so much stronger and more consistent in his play. That being said, I think picking MC to win is a little too "safe". I'm going to mix it up a bit by going with Jinro. I believe he can definitely do it. His vP is also underestimated, look what he did to MC last season. Even if right now his vP isn't the best it's been, I know he has the potential to play top level TvP. That being said, Here are my brackets.
MC is not "so much stronger" than Mvp. In fact, so far Mvp has proven to be more dominant. Up until this GSL he has shown better results. Don't let 2 games vs July fool you. That dudes gonna be out for blood and I think at their peaks, Mvp is the better player.
People who have White-Ra beating MC, it won't happen. Look at the last round of GSL where MC stomped his opponent 3-0. Then look at IEM where White-Ra got swept in a PvP, or the finals of the TSL qualifier that he won, where he actually lost both times TLO rolled Protoss.
PvP is arguably his worst matchup, and MC is probably (among) the best player(s) in the world.
On March 10 2011 06:34 Dexington wrote: People who have White-Ra beating MC, it won't happen. Look at the last round of GSL where MC stomped his opponent 3-0. Then look at IEM where White-Ra got swept in a PvP, or the finals of the TSL qualifier that he won, where he actually lost both times TLO rolled Protoss.
PvP is arguably his worst matchup, and MC is probably (among) the best player(s) in the world.
HongUn played like a scrub, it's not fair to say that one series is a good representation, and White-Ra is probably the best protoss in Europe, so it will be close, and Ra could very well take it.
On March 10 2011 06:34 Dexington wrote: People who have White-Ra beating MC, it won't happen. Look at the last round of GSL where MC stomped his opponent 3-0. Then look at IEM where White-Ra got swept in a PvP, or the finals of the TSL qualifier that he won, where he actually lost both times TLO rolled Protoss.
PvP is arguably his worst matchup, and MC is probably (among) the best player(s) in the world.
HongUn played like a scrub, it's not fair to say that one series is a good representation, and White-Ra is probably the best protoss in Europe, so it will be close, and Ra could very well take it.
The last time MC lost a best of 3 or more series to another Protoss?
The mappool has to be considered: - Many GSL Maps => Koreans will own even more - Big Maps with Pro-Zerg mods => Zergs will own even more (than IEM, Assembly, Code A)
There will probably be 1 small and 1 big korean upset. I gave the small one to Boxer, could be Nada or Fruitdealer as well. The Jinro-Morrow match is really hot. Despite Morrow being Zerg, I still give Jinro the edge, but if Morrow wins he can easily make the semifinal as well.