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Mamon
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation6 Posts
December 16 2009 04:05 GMT
#121
I would rise aside Dreiven'a in this situation as, there it is visible in a match sheet that Zazu, began to play before still for a long time protoss and terran because had not time to make the way in top, therefore here does not cause suspicion even these games.
On the other hand a day before ladder on December, 11th I was in such situation with 9800 pts and have decided to play too against B rank, I have lost 3-0(vs Whistler), but could and win, then me too ban?
Mamon
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation6 Posts
December 16 2009 04:08 GMT
#122
Interestingly, and who can tell, such tournaments will be spent still?(^_^)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
December 16 2009 04:21 GMT
#123
Oh god the babel translations are killing me. T_T

You are a trooper though Mamon.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 16 2009 04:26 GMT
#124
On December 16 2009 13:21 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Oh god the babel translations are killing me. T_T

You are a trooper though Mamon.


I know now, why some people failed our high school spanish essays...

But hell, Marmon, you deserve an award or something.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 16 2009 04:29 GMT
#125
On December 16 2009 10:34 KwarK wrote:
This is most vexing.

Can't believe no one caught this, but --

lol

sorry man

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On December 11 2009 09:03 KwarK wrote:
Just got back from a few days away. Very glad #48 has risen above 9305. That vindicates my decision to play there instead of stopping and hoping it was enough.

What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 16 2009 04:40 GMT
#126
Mamon's posts are very hard to understand. But he's still my hero. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way

Mamon, you rock
Trucy Wright is hot
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 16 2009 05:05 GMT
#127
On December 16 2009 12:28 win8282 wrote:
incontrol you sound like a bitch... dreiven was deemed not to have abused under current TSL rules. Why keep the whining? I hope you're not suggesting TSL admins were soft on dreiven... (sorry inc. I have lotsa respect for you and I know you as a TSL contender may feel strongly about abusers, but you have to try see things impartially man...)

Anyways, I have huge respect for the TSL admins. I can barely imagine all the hard work they had to put in to analyze every top player's matchlist and even having to go over reps to determine ladder abuse.

You do realize that Incontrol didn't initiate this, right?
On December 16 2009 07:22 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
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On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


I am totally with you. wtf is up here, "against the spirit of TSL". WTF.

how can this gay ass dodging be the spirit of TSL?

how can it be that some players get low punishment for violating the rules (only the points taken away). this is a disgrace to all the players trying hard to get into the top 48 and running against that wall just like the other abuse.

im especially disappointet of incontrol. this dude hangs arround here and cant even follow the very simple rules. "oh I forgot, didn't count" or such a lame excuse is low in my opinion if you are playing the final stage of a 3 weeks ladder.

A completely misinformed and bad-mannered attack on Incontrol, and he's not justified in a somewhat aggressive response?
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 16 2009 05:10 GMT
#128
Damn, Ukraine really dropped the ball on this one didn't they? lol, only 2 trustworthy Ukrainians around, ra and Strelok.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 06:10:18
December 16 2009 05:13 GMT
#129
Posted this in the other thread, but can't hurt here too:


[image loading] Poland - 7
[image loading] USA - 6
[image loading] Germany - 6
[image loading] Canada - 4
[image loading] Sweden - 4
[image loading] Ukraine - 3
[image loading] Russia - 2
[image loading] Peru - 2
[image loading] Romania - 2
[image loading] Lithuania - 2
[image loading] Bulgaria - 2
[image loading] Netherlands - 1
[image loading] Hungary - 1
[image loading] Taiwan - 1
[image loading] Mexico - 1
[image loading] Chile - 1
[image loading] Macedonia - 1
[image loading] France - 1
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[image loading] Norway - 1
[image loading] Italy - 1
[image loading] Spain - 1
[image loading] Austria - 1
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
December 16 2009 05:27 GMT
#130
wasnt there a guy named
Moman =o
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 16 2009 05:36 GMT
#131
Great job TL admins! Im doubtful about the Dreiven point removal but since you guys got all the info I guess well have to rely on your judgement! Thank you for all the effort youve put in to this.
4649!!
Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
December 16 2009 06:28 GMT
#132
Wow, this is awesome work.
All the work the TSL team placed into this means for a great qualifiers!
Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5908 Posts
December 16 2009 06:49 GMT
#133
On December 16 2009 09:57 Plexa wrote:
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On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.



I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square

Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players

We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it.

Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament


Wow, then I'm gonna have to eat my own words <eats his own words>

Good job, guys!

And grats to Dreiven. ;p
mzgk
Profile Joined January 2009
Ukraine27 Posts
December 16 2009 09:17 GMT
#134
hey! it's turning out to be an easterneurope's discrimination! so much russians and ukrainians! we will make complaints to international court of justice!!!!111
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 16 2009 09:43 GMT
#135
On December 16 2009 18:17 mzgk wrote:
hey! it's turning out to be an easterneurope's discrimination! so much russians and ukrainians! we will make complaints to international court of justice!!!!111


LOL
Moderator
Vo-one
Profile Joined June 2003
Ukraine456 Posts
December 16 2009 09:45 GMT
#136
On December 16 2009 18:17 mzgk wrote:
hey! it's turning out to be an easterneurope's discrimination! so much russians and ukrainians! we will make complaints to international court of justice!!!!111

wtf are you talking about? lol
it's disappointing for us for sure, but everythig is clear about our guys.
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фальсифицировали-фальсифицировали, да не выфальсифицировали
mzgk
Profile Joined January 2009
Ukraine27 Posts
December 16 2009 10:00 GMT
#137
seriously, what does it mean? @The TSL does not tolerate players who abuse or players that help others abuse.@? who is @The TSL@ btw? a couple of americans with overconfident world-justice-view? take off masks-)
how the fuck u can be assured that IP address of person who has helped to abuse is 100% of certain player? not his roommate,neighbour in the same house or even district with the same external IP? There is a possibility when hundreds of people have one unique fucking IP address, isn't there??? sure, in usa every single user has got static IP, so u can be definitely right when ban americans^^
did you check who was helping in getting freewins for Yosh, or others? why are only russians and ukrainians get involved in it?
i think all rest of ukrainians must boycott this circus!

PS Does PokerStrategy.com-staff approve your decisions?
mzgk
Profile Joined January 2009
Ukraine27 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 10:08:21
December 16 2009 10:05 GMT
#138
On December 16 2009 18:45 Vo-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 18:17 mzgk wrote:
hey! it's turning out to be an easterneurope's discrimination! so much russians and ukrainians! we will make complaints to international court of justice!!!!111

it's disappointing for us for sure, but everythig is clear about our guys.


any of impartial courts or even non-profit organizations of the whole world would laughed at those unprofessional decisions. mmm... except of KESPA for sure^^


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не пойман - не вор ;0
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44440 Posts
December 16 2009 10:10 GMT
#139
Not just Eastern Europe. China and Korea are both excluded and that's even further East. Then of course there's Yosh, an American, who is further East still.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
mzgk
Profile Joined January 2009
Ukraine27 Posts
December 16 2009 10:13 GMT
#140
On December 16 2009 19:10 KwarK wrote:
Not just Eastern Europe. China and Korea are both excluded and that's even further East. Then of course there's Yosh, an American, who is further East still.



oh God... I knew it! I knew it! It's the Universal Conspiracy Against East!
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