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Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
December 16 2009 00:06 GMT
#81
On December 16 2009 06:19 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 06:08 Trezeguet23 wrote:
On December 16 2009 05:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
No actions againts Castros non TSL account play vs TSL account players (happened after castro already played TSL games)? Namely castro vs Kr.

So this means you can play TSL3 (if happens) games with your other known iccup account against TSL players while already played TSL ladder games?

On December 16 2009 05:45 John49ers wrote:
On December 16 2009 05:40 AstraBoy wrote:
good
and you can also check this : http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/290755/1x1.html

castro vs achi_juachi, in the last minutes of tsl ladder xd


uh oh. Well I hope Lz makes it. TSL staff has been awesome.

Didn't they say the 1st thing was a misunderstanding? and you would think that they looked into those games as well esp. considering all of the abuse they have tracked down.


For example, If you would be that player who is 30 points away from (or 1 win away) qualifying round 1 qualifier (or first player to not qualify). Now would you accept this "misunderstanding"?


I also think its strange! They should atleast have gived him some extra minus for that game! And strange he do 2 "rules breaking" things and just loose points for 3 games.
BeastofManjura
Profile Joined September 2009
United States30 Posts
December 16 2009 00:09 GMT
#82
I am now rooting for dreiven! To win it all! I feel pity in his case and I don't (imo) think it was fair to take away points. But other than that GREAT WORK by TSL staff at looking in to every detail. Wow tsl knows how to run a tournament.
yeaa
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 00:11:04
December 16 2009 00:09 GMT
#83
On December 16 2009 08:58 Mamon wrote:
I wish to express bewilderment why me have punished on 97 pts when I played with it in different days, I am ready to argue that many too have games in different days where someone wins them with the account more than 3-0

2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period (from this announcement)

First game against TSL-Bylat-_- took place at Sat Dec 12 16:03:10 MSK
Last game against TSL-Bylat-_- took place at Sun Dec 13 03:46:48 MSK

5-1 in the course of < 12 hours. Pretty cut and dry.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10089 Posts
December 16 2009 00:10 GMT
#84
On December 16 2009 08:58 Mamon wrote:
I wish to express bewilderment why me have punished on 97 pts when I played with it in different days, I am ready to argue that many too have games in different days where someone wins them with the account more than 3-0


playing it on another day doesnt matter if its still within the 24 hour period
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 16 2009 00:11 GMT
#85
Good job.
BW fighting!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 00:26:08
December 16 2009 00:23 GMT
#86
On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.


uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities.....

What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically.

So Mani was right in one sense
✌
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
December 16 2009 00:31 GMT
#87
On December 16 2009 09:23 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.


uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities.....

What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically.

So Mani was right in one sense


Annnnnd not so much.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
foppa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada451 Posts
December 16 2009 00:33 GMT
#88
great work admins. thank you for a great tournament!
i can take you
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 00:41:53
December 16 2009 00:41 GMT
#89
On December 16 2009 09:31 tinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 09:23 JWD wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.


uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities.....

What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically.

So Mani was right in one sense


Annnnnd not so much.


He uses the words "If we BOTH weren't from Poland".

He clearly was implying it was the fact that they were from the same country, so people just went off at him for no reason.
Mamon
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation6 Posts
December 16 2009 00:49 GMT
#90
http://ru.iccup.com/matchlist/876851/1x1/page2.html
TSL-Naugrim_vsTSL-SparKles 6-2 /
TSL-Naugrim - 97 pts
After that to become interestingly, the truth, for me it is not so important, but that eyes then it very much would solve for me could and to close on my games is important
TSL-Gosudark-
Profile Joined December 2009
Peru3 Posts
December 16 2009 00:50 GMT
#91
Hey and me , i am top 52 , i do not meet in the groups
gg
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 16 2009 00:51 GMT
#92
On December 16 2009 09:49 Mamon wrote:
http://ru.iccup.com/matchlist/876851/1x1/page2.html
TSL-Naugrim_vsTSL-SparKles 6-2 /
TSL-Naugrim - 97 pts
After that to become interestingly, the truth, for me it is not so important, but that eyes then it very much would solve for me could and to close on my games is important
The rules came into effect at 0600 MSK on the 10th of December. Those games were played on the 3rd of December.

regarding the DQs, I would be very interested in seeing what the RoX management have to say
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Dreiven
Profile Joined March 2008
Poland5 Posts
December 16 2009 00:53 GMT
#93
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.



I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square

Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 16 2009 00:54 GMT
#94
On December 16 2009 09:50 TSL-Gosudark- wrote:
Hey and me , i am top 52 , i do not meet in the groups

After XiaoZi's complaints went through your score was 9048
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 16 2009 00:57 GMT
#95
On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.



I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square

Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players

We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it.

Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mamon
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation6 Posts
December 16 2009 01:03 GMT
#96
Sorry, I now not in this command...
I tried not to play more than 3-0, all this time. It is insulting that so it has turned out, until the last minute hoped to get on tournament =) All thanks, I will support Idrа, best the worthy player in ladder :D
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
December 16 2009 01:05 GMT
#97
drat one more d/q woulda got lz in TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 16 2009 01:07 GMT
#98
On December 16 2009 09:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.



I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square

Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players

We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it.

Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament

whaaaaat? you checked every game vs non tslers? thats insane, how did you do that so fast?
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
December 16 2009 01:12 GMT
#99
On December 16 2009 10:07 aqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 09:57 Plexa wrote:
On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered.


Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.



I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square

Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players

We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it.

Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament

whaaaaat? you checked every game vs non tslers? thats insane, how did you do that so fast?

Plexa alone did not do it, there were several people who did that.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 01:13:41
December 16 2009 01:13 GMT
#100
Lol at the guy who had to check Mamon rep pack.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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