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On December 16 2009 06:19 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 06:08 Trezeguet23 wrote:On December 16 2009 05:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
No actions againts Castros non TSL account play vs TSL account players (happened after castro already played TSL games)? Namely castro vs Kr.
So this means you can play TSL3 (if happens) games with your other known iccup account against TSL players while already played TSL ladder games? On December 16 2009 05:45 John49ers wrote:uh oh. Well I hope Lz makes it. TSL staff has been awesome. Didn't they say the 1st thing was a misunderstanding? and you would think that they looked into those games as well esp. considering all of the abuse they have tracked down. For example, If you would be that player who is 30 points away from (or 1 win away) qualifying round 1 qualifier (or first player to not qualify). Now would you accept this "misunderstanding"?
I also think its strange! They should atleast have gived him some extra minus for that game! And strange he do 2 "rules breaking" things and just loose points for 3 games.
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I am now rooting for dreiven! To win it all! I feel pity in his case and I don't (imo) think it was fair to take away points. But other than that GREAT WORK by TSL staff at looking in to every detail. Wow tsl knows how to run a tournament.
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United States13896 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:58 Mamon wrote:
I wish to express bewilderment why me have punished on 97 pts when I played with it in different days, I am ready to argue that many too have games in different days where someone wins them with the account more than 3-0
2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period (from this announcement)
First game against TSL-Bylat-_- took place at Sat Dec 12 16:03:10 MSK
Last game against TSL-Bylat-_- took place at Sun Dec 13 03:46:48 MSK
5-1 in the course of < 12 hours. Pretty cut and dry.
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On December 16 2009 08:58 Mamon wrote:
I wish to express bewilderment why me have punished on 97 pts when I played with it in different days, I am ready to argue that many too have games in different days where someone wins them with the account more than 3-0
playing it on another day doesnt matter if its still within the 24 hour period
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United States12607 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities.....
What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically.
So Mani was right in one sense 
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On December 16 2009 09:23 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities..... What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically. So Mani was right in one sense
Annnnnd not so much.
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great work admins. thank you for a great tournament!
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On December 16 2009 09:31 tinman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 09:23 JWD wrote:On December 16 2009 08:28 eXigent. wrote:On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities..... What the OP means is that it was a consideration that both players are from the same country. It's still irrelevant that they are both from Poland specifically. So Mani was right in one sense Annnnnd not so much.
He uses the words "If we BOTH weren't from Poland".
He clearly was implying it was the fact that they were from the same country, so people just went off at him for no reason.
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Russian Federation6 Posts
http://ru.iccup.com/matchlist/876851/1x1/page2.html
TSL-Naugrim_vsTSL-SparKles 6-2 /
TSL-Naugrim - 97 pts
After that to become interestingly, the truth, for me it is not so important, but that eyes then it very much would solve for me could and to close on my games is important
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Hey and me , i am top 52 , i do not meet in the groups
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:49 Mamon wrote:http://ru.iccup.com/matchlist/876851/1x1/page2.htmlTSL-Naugrim_vsTSL-SparKles 6-2 / TSL-Naugrim - 97 pts After that to become interestingly, the truth, for me it is not so important, but that eyes then it very much would solve for me could and to close on my games is important The rules came into effect at 0600 MSK on the 10th of December. Those games were played on the 3rd of December.
regarding the DQs, I would be very interested in seeing what the RoX management have to say
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On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive.
I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square 
Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:50 TSL-Gosudark- wrote:
Hey and me , i am top 52 , i do not meet in the groups
After XiaoZi's complaints went through your score was 9048
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players
We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it.
Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament 
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Sorry, I now not in this command...
I tried not to play more than 3-0, all this time. It is insulting that so it has turned out, until the last minute hoped to get on tournament =) All thanks, I will support Idrа, best the worthy player in ladder :D
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drat one more d/q woulda got lz in TT
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On December 16 2009 09:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it. Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament
whaaaaat? you checked every game vs non tslers? thats insane, how did you do that so fast?
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United States4991 Posts
On December 16 2009 10:07 aqui wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2009 09:57 Plexa wrote:On December 16 2009 09:53 Dreiven wrote:On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote:On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote:
he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. I think that it was considered mainly because we're country man .. probably if i was playing vs some other country or korean u wouldnt even look at it.. well its ur decision but I earned it fair & square Im still in and thats whats imporant. GJ in finding abusers in top european players We definitely took notice! For instance the games that JuanJo got DQd on was a 2-0 vs a Korean flag. We paid specific attention to those three series between countrymen and made a statement regarding those because to the public those look the most suspicious. Rest assured that we checked every series vs a non-TSL player for abuse. It was a painful process, but we strongly beleive the community will be better for it. Nevertheless, goodluck in the tournament whaaaaat? you checked every game vs non tslers? thats insane, how did you do that so fast?
Plexa alone did not do it, there were several people who did that.
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Lol at the guy who had to check Mamon rep pack.
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