EPTOn December 16 2009 07:16 pettter wrote:
The qualifier groups and final standings are up, Dreiven is still in.
The qualifier groups and final standings are up, Dreiven is still in.
And he avoided White-Ra's group with the loss of that 195 points...
Final DQs and Point Adjustments - Page 4
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
And he avoided White-Ra's group with the loss of that 195 points... | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
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groro
67 Posts
there is no perfect law or holy decisions.. all is individual and when they would always decide in the other way around then in the next tournament everybody could start intentionally something like this. but the point is in dreivens case it doesnt even make a difference for him. so calm down.. the only useful post in this matter is imo the one from dreiven himself. all in all i am happy with all the good work the tl staff did so far and with the decisions they made. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:22 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote: I am totally with you. wtf is up here, "against the spirit of TSL". WTF. how can this gay ass dodging be the spirit of TSL? how can it be that some players get low punishment for violating the rules (only the points taken away). this is a disgrace to all the players trying hard to get into the top 48 and running against that wall just like the other abuse. im especially disappointet of incontrol. this dude hangs arround here and cant even follow the very simple rules. "oh I forgot, didn't count" or such a lame excuse is low in my opinion if you are playing the final stage of a 3 weeks ladder. I did read the rules as I said many times in some of the threads here I was "hanging around" in. Thanks. I accidentally broke them at 3:44am the night they took effect.. I was penalized and I didn't fight it or anything. SORRY IT HAPPENED BRAH lol | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
iNcontroL is fine. It was a minor infraction and it was admitted immediately. Dreiven seems fine, too. Was just a misunderstanding. The tourney admins are ALSO fine. They're just trying to run a clean competition. Beers and hugs all around. We're in for a good show here. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27178 Posts
On December 16 2009 06:44 Dreiven wrote: he was playing random vs me +_+.. the games were real and knowing that zazu plays a lot of all-ins and cheeses I was prepared for it. TL should look at replays 2nd time and see that there was nothing suspicious about it ^^ If we both weren't from poland this probably wouldn't be considered. Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5871 Posts
Good job btw! I like the graphics, lol ;p (homepage post). On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote: Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. He meant their both being from the same country, not Poland specifically. He's not suspecting you of being chauvinistic, but of potentially not inspecting other suspicious games because they weren't standing out as much. | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote: Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. Ummmm... Mani? The following game series were determined to be "suspicious" due to their timing, score, and player nationalities. 1. tsl-marw > TSL-HappyZerg, 3-0 2. TSL-Kolll > SD_DS, 3-0 3. TSL-Dreiven > TSL-Zazu(GN), 3-0 Read the OP, buddy. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:21 Manifesto7 wrote: Being Polish has nothing to do with it. The fact that you think this is based on nationality is offensive. uhh did you read the OP? it even says it's partially based on nationalities..... | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27178 Posts
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TT1
Canada10089 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:29 Manifesto7 wrote: Well that sucks. Manifesto, you rock. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5871 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:29 Manifesto7 wrote: Well that sucks. Big time! ;p Well, I'm glad he qualified. TL stff are doing a great job with everything. Let this be the greatest foreign SC event! ^___^ | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
It was the same crap with kwark and it was what lead to him being asked to NOT do that with his clanmates. If I needed wins and I suddenly 3-0'd EG.Louder a guy who wasn't going to qualify we'd all be saying the same thing... he PROBABLY wouldn't try his hardest to just crush me out of it. Maybe they were legit games? Maybe not.. the admins had to make a gut call on this and I think given history (and the amount of abuse TSL2 has shown to inspire) we can go ahead and say that this was fine. Dreiven is still in the league, zazu is still not, but at the end of the day the draw is as pure as the admins THINK it should be. | ||
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Crt
247 Posts
And the decision to take points off Dreiven. You deducted pts for something Dreiven did not do and wasn't aware. If you're against playing offrace, then DQ Zazu(GN). This has nothing to do with Dreiven. Though the pts difference won't change the group Dreiven is in, it's a pretty stupid/unfair/inappropriate/poor-decision making skill on whoever thought that was reasonable. | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
dreivens PvZ is pretty good so it might be not that stupid to try a rnd vs him. especially because you aint got much to lose and a friend of yours is winning. this is not abuse even is the circumstances are good for both players. If 2 player go like 3:3 in below A- they both profit but do you check all those ecounters? | ||
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Mamon
Russian Federation6 Posts
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