EPTDQs: Dimaga, Reason, Sarens, Vasilisk - Page 18
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote: Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair). This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all. Mamon played more than 800 games. I guess he played 24/7. It was important for him and so he found time for what is important for him. If the game is important to you, find time for it. If you want to quit this game, just quit it. You should realize what is important for you in your life. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:02 MorroW[MB] wrote:talked to scan and he said he knew he was playing against mercurys(who now this guy is lol) smurf but he didnt know it was 4-0, he didnt keep track of score. he is sorry and he agree with admin in the dq lol at scan, this makes it sound like he thinks that playing smurfs for each other with mercury and reaching an "illegal" score of 4-0 had equal parts in his disqualification  | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:07 MorroW[MB] wrote: hey im just saying what he said to me, im not saying i agree or anything at all for that matter. for all i know he could have been feeding me lies just felt like giving u guys some perspective and answers xd Oh no, I wasn't attacking you. Sorry if it sounded like it. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
It was listed in the rules and you broke them and got caught, so who's stupid the rules or you? | ||
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John49ers
United States237 Posts
On December 14 2009 03:12 Julmust wrote: you know who the REAL victims here are? [19:10:35] <IntoTheWow> Goody [19:10:40] <IntoTheWow> and RoX.Alf [19:10:43] <IntoTheWow> both had like [19:10:45] <IntoTheWow> 9500 points [19:10:48] <IntoTheWow> but cutoff was 9700 [19:10:51] <IntoTheWow> so they mass gamed [19:10:52] <IntoTheWow> lost [19:10:53] <IntoTheWow> raged [19:10:55] <IntoTheWow> cleared stats [19:10:57] <IntoTheWow> so sad  [19:11:00] <IntoTheWow> both good manner players [19:11:04] <IntoTheWow> fucking abusers. I fully agree. They didnt abuse, they fought their way to their stats. Fuck you and your abusing. This must be truly heartbreaking for them. Damn. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
and by reading some of the abuser's posts you can really tell that they are truly, and sadly, stupid | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
Once in, there are additional rounds to go through. People are cheating like the ladder is the TSL....all you have to do is make it to #48 guys. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not. People are saying that this is a dark day for the starcraft community etc and how TSL is not doing well because of it. But it seems to me that TSL is doing excellently because of the rules and the work I assume R1ch has done in conjunction with the crew. People try to abuse, they get banned. They don't get to play on in the tournament and the proof is conclusive. I think all of these things have been excellently handled by TL staff so far. The alternative would have been that some people abused (maybe the same people) and didn't get found out. They kept on playing in the tournament because no one ever knew they abused and messed with the brackets / qualifiers etc. I say Rock on TL! Keep banning those that feel cheating is ok. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
Just sad for Dimaga though.. Meh | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote: It strikes me as exceptionally greedy and self absorbed to be safely within the top 48 and still feel like cheating to get into the top 12 or what. Dudes if you're not top 12 you don't deserve to finish on that spot. Take the harder road and work for it instead. Atleast it's an honest way of playing. It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not. People are saying that this is a dark day for the starcraft community etc and how TSL is not doing well because of it. But it seems to me that TSL is doing excellently because of the rules and the work I assume R1ch has done in conjunction with the crew. People try to abuse, they get banned. They don't get to play on in the tournament and the proof is conclusive. I think all of these things have been excellently handled by TL staff so far. The alternative would have been that some people abused (maybe the same people) and didn't get found out. They kept on playing in the tournament because no one ever knew they abused and messed with the brackets / qualifiers etc. I say Rock on TL! Keep banning those that feel cheating is ok. F91 will not play unless he can get TOP12 the trip from China to Taiwan might cost about 1000$ I dont understand why F91 play this tournament if he cant play many games T.T | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote: It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not. Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules. | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
But I didn't expect so many players getting caught and all qualifiers should get checked no matter who they are. | ||
Insane
United States4991 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:13 Boblion wrote: Will players get pts back for their losses vs abusers ? No. The fact that the players abused doesn't mean the other games were fake or something. The players were DQed because they abused the ladder, not because they had some unfair advantage in any particular game vs opponents. It is a regrettable decision that the DQs of players may have hurt the chances of others who thought the bar was higher than it was. We didn't deliberately wait to DQ these players (such as removing A2/Pomi/F91 earlier on), but rather most of the abuse happened near the very end of the ladder and thus we had no option (also, it takes some time to catch people abusing, since they're not exactly going to point out to us the games we should check, a process which is still going on). On December 14 2009 02:35 Scooge wrote: What was the reasoning behind the absolutely no smurf rule? Why not allow them to smurf, but send their real IDs to TL admin? People were allowed to smurf, as long as they got the OK from us first. In the previous TSL someone (Skew? I forget who) did do that. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote: Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules. What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12. | ||
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