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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 13 2009 21:18 GMT
#361
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 1.

now even more better
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 13 2009 21:20 GMT
#362
Godamnit, you bastards. They deserve to be DQed.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 13 2009 21:20 GMT
#363
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...
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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
December 13 2009 21:24 GMT
#364
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...


Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this.
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
December 13 2009 21:25 GMT
#365
On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.



Onboard!
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 21:26:53
December 13 2009 21:26 GMT
#366
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...

tsl has no reason to bar him from playing outside of china

what's this favor BS?
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 21:29:17
December 13 2009 21:28 GMT
#367
On December 14 2009 06:26 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...

tsl has no reason to bar him from playing outside of china

what's this favor BS?
You don't even know what you're talking about -.-
We allowed him to play the ladder from China, because he assured us he'd play the qualifiers/ro16 TSL from outside of China.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 21:38:37
December 13 2009 21:33 GMT
#368
which is fair to me, you?

with his skills qualifier 2 or 3, top 48 or top 12 wouldn't matter, he'd make it. but he had to fly out for extended amount of time in the case of q2. this isn't a 2-3 day tourney you can jet out and be home like you never left it, this is weeks and weeks till tsl is over. How long was tsl1?

The circumstances change everything. He should be disqualified but not shit on by being on some public stoning list where everyone else plays comfortably from home. No sireee.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 13 2009 21:34 GMT
#369
On December 14 2009 06:24 DrTJEckleburg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...


Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this.

Also don't forget that F91 owes a lot of his popularity outside of China to Liquibition, which TL invited him to play in and also paid him hundreds of dollars for winning.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 21:40:03
December 13 2009 21:37 GMT
#370
On December 14 2009 06:34 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:24 DrTJEckleburg wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...


Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this.

Also don't forget that F91 owes a lot of his popularity outside of China to Liquibition, which TL invited him to play in and also paid him hundreds of dollars for winning.

look, I dunno how views got so skewed

he got paid dollars for WINNING like anybody would get the purse for winning, how's that a favor AGAIN? liquibition invited him for playing at high level, he won and got some money. in my world that's called a fair n square.
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iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
December 13 2009 21:40 GMT
#371
f91 either should never have participated tsl, or should have given up his tourneys in China. It was stupid of him to not realize how big a commitment being a TSLer means. In the end you cannot possible win it all, and end up screwing up everything.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
December 13 2009 21:40 GMT
#372
On December 14 2009 06:33 .risingdragoon wrote:
which is fair to me, you?

with his skills qualifier 2 or 3, top 48 or top 12 wouldn't matter, he'd make it. but he had to fly out for extended amount of time in the case of q2. this isn't a 2-3 day tourney you can jet out and be home like you never left it, this is weeks and weeks till tsl is over. How long was tsl1?

The circumstances change everything. He should be disqualified but not shit on by being on some public stoning list where everyone else plays comfortably from home. No sireee.


fairness doesn't even enter into it, if anything TL was overly fair to him by just granting him the ability to ladder while in China
he was given the sole exception and fucked it up by abusing in a tournament worth 22,000 dollars run by the same people that have invited him to their tournaments previously
he is trash
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 13 2009 21:41 GMT
#373
On December 14 2009 06:37 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:34 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:24 DrTJEckleburg wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote:
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:59 .risingdragoon wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:48 StarBrift wrote:
It's kinda wierd how some of these people fucked themselves over a 100 times more than anyone else. A2, F91 and Dimaga WOULD have qualified atleast in the top 48 regardless. Now they face the disgrace of a DQ and the prospect of being shunned by the entire community for a long time. I wonder if they any of them feels like a better seed into the tournament or whatever was worth all that. I'm guessing not.


Don't put f91 in there, he at least was put in a unique situation by tsl rules.

What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12.
Seriously.

Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused...


Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this.

Also don't forget that F91 owes a lot of his popularity outside of China to Liquibition, which TL invited him to play in and also paid him hundreds of dollars for winning.

look, I dunno how views got so skewed

he got paid dollars for WINNING like anybody would get the purse for winning, how's that a favor AGAIN?

wow
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 13 2009 21:44 GMT
#374
On December 13 2009 20:59 Oystein wrote:
lol if this continue I just might have gotten in if had just quit at 9,3k.



Lol, maybe so. WTF people, there was so much fucking hype about dimaga and then he fucking cheats... WOW, what a let down.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 13 2009 21:49 GMT
#375
On December 14 2009 06:40 H wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:33 .risingdragoon wrote:
which is fair to me, you?

with his skills qualifier 2 or 3, top 48 or top 12 wouldn't matter, he'd make it. but he had to fly out for extended amount of time in the case of q2. this isn't a 2-3 day tourney you can jet out and be home like you never left it, this is weeks and weeks till tsl is over. How long was tsl1?

The circumstances change everything. He should be disqualified but not shit on by being on some public stoning list where everyone else plays comfortably from home. No sireee.


fairness doesn't even enter into it, if anything TL was overly fair to him by just granting him the ability to ladder while in China
he was given the sole exception and fucked it up by abusing in a tournament worth 22,000 dollars run by the same people that have invited him to their tournaments previously
he is trash



True and he did cheat just like everyone else on the list but I am more accepting of his situation than anyone else. He HAD to make it to the top 12 because that was the only time he could be in Taiwan or wherever he was going. The rest of the people simply dont have ANY excuses since they were already in the top 48... But im not justifying anything.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 13 2009 21:52 GMT
#376
Some people here are freaking me out
And at the top is Reason

I never felt such a stronge urge to simply say '' FUCK YOU '' because thats exactly what I felt after reading your post/s

A simple sorry would have done it. Or '' it was stupid '', '' i regret it''

1) Most koreans dont fucking know you anymore and if they do they wont dodge
2) There are four times more qualiyfing without abusing than there are abusers
tell me how did they do the impossible when you well known Reason feared on the whole planet got dodged all the time and saw now other out..

Seriously.. I never knew excuses would piss me off that much but in this case I cant believe what you wrote.

I will stop here cause I dont want to risk a ban or something but Im lacking the words to describe what I felt after reading your posts.

Its one thing to do something bad and unfair but its a total different thing to come back and instead of being just sorry for it posting such ridicolous excuses..

wtf...

If anything all of those cheaters should feel so stupid. 3 Games less wouldnt have made a difference for yosh who was high in the A, Dimaga or Reason..

U have your right to feel stupid now but its SO unbelievable cheap to blame the tsl2 admins for not being able to implement a proper system which lead u to abusing.. Srry Reason thats just so fucking ridicolous ..


In the end I have to say: I didnt really care about guys like RiboRibo or Vasilisk, barely heard of em..

But Dimaga and yosh abusing is something I would have never ever thought.. And A2 abusing as well.. Its just so unneeded..

If anything it was THE FEAR of not doing good enough ..


good night all..

hatred outlives the hateful
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 13 2009 21:55 GMT
#377
On December 14 2009 06:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Some people here are freaking me out
And at the top is Reason

I never felt such a stronge urge to simply say '' FUCK YOU '' because thats exactly what I felt after reading your post/s

A simple sorry would have done it. Or '' it was stupid '', '' i regret it''

1) Most koreans dont fucking know you anymore and if they do they wont dodge
2) There are four times more qualiyfing without abusing than there are abusers
tell me how did they do the impossible when you well known Reason feared on the whole planet got dodged all the time and saw now other out..

Seriously.. I never knew excuses would piss me off that much but in this case I cant believe what you wrote.

I will stop here cause I dont want to risk a ban or something but Im lacking the words to describe what I felt after reading your posts.

Its one thing to do something bad and unfair but its a total different thing to come back and instead of being just sorry for it posting such ridicolous excuses..

wtf...

If anything all of those cheaters should feel so stupid. 3 Games less wouldnt have made a difference for yosh who was high in the A, Dimaga or Reason..

U have your right to feel stupid now but its SO unbelievable cheap to blame the tsl2 admins for not being able to implement a proper system which lead u to abusing.. Srry Reason thats just so fucking ridicolous ..


In the end I have to say: I didnt really care about guys like RiboRibo or Vasilisk, barely heard of em..

But Dimaga and yosh abusing is something I would have never ever thought.. And A2 abusing as well.. Its just so unneeded..

If anything it was THE FEAR of not doing good enough ..


good night all..



Who the hell are you going off on? You didn't quote anyone and you keep saying "you" which is making me think you're talking about me since i posted before you.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 21:59:04
December 13 2009 21:57 GMT
#378
^it's reason silly

well reason coulda said sorry first then go into his reasons (lol). it's the same to him probly but it's a big difference for everyone else I guess.

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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
December 13 2009 21:58 GMT
#379
On December 14 2009 06:55 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 06:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Some people here are freaking me out
And at the top is Reason

I never felt such a stronge urge to simply say '' FUCK YOU '' because thats exactly what I felt after reading your post/s

A simple sorry would have done it. Or '' it was stupid '', '' i regret it''

1) Most koreans dont fucking know you anymore and if they do they wont dodge
2) There are four times more qualiyfing without abusing than there are abusers
tell me how did they do the impossible when you well known Reason feared on the whole planet got dodged all the time and saw now other out..

Seriously.. I never knew excuses would piss me off that much but in this case I cant believe what you wrote.

I will stop here cause I dont want to risk a ban or something but Im lacking the words to describe what I felt after reading your posts.

Its one thing to do something bad and unfair but its a total different thing to come back and instead of being just sorry for it posting such ridicolous excuses..

wtf...

If anything all of those cheaters should feel so stupid. 3 Games less wouldnt have made a difference for yosh who was high in the A, Dimaga or Reason..

U have your right to feel stupid now but its SO unbelievable cheap to blame the tsl2 admins for not being able to implement a proper system which lead u to abusing.. Srry Reason thats just so fucking ridicolous ..


In the end I have to say: I didnt really care about guys like RiboRibo or Vasilisk, barely heard of em..

But Dimaga and yosh abusing is something I would have never ever thought.. And A2 abusing as well.. Its just so unneeded..

If anything it was THE FEAR of not doing good enough ..


good night all..



Who the hell are you going off on? You didn't quote anyone and you keep saying "you" which is making me think you're talking about me since i posted before you.


Clearly he's adressing Reason, as he mentions at the top of his post.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 13 2009 22:02 GMT
#380
Obviously im talking about reason here..
I find it just utterly ridicolous that he's blaming the tsl2 organization crew
Or his fame ..

good lord.. I will stop here or Im risking a ban..

its all fine.. just sad that many good names are now dqed..


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