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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote: What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 1. now even more better | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:16 JWD wrote: Seriously.What? Of course F91 belongs in this list, he cheated just like the rest. Every player on the TSL ladder wanted to be in the top 12. Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused... | ||
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote: Seriously. Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused... Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this. | ||
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vRoOk
United States1024 Posts
On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less. Onboard! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:20 Carnac wrote: Seriously. Normally he wouldn't even have been allowed to play. We did him a favor by granting him an exception and then he abused... tsl has no reason to bar him from playing outside of china what's this favor BS? | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:26 .risingdragoon wrote: You don't even know what you're talking about -.-tsl has no reason to bar him from playing outside of china what's this favor BS? We allowed him to play the ladder from China, because he assured us he'd play the qualifiers/ro16 TSL from outside of China. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
with his skills qualifier 2 or 3, top 48 or top 12 wouldn't matter, he'd make it. but he had to fly out for extended amount of time in the case of q2. this isn't a 2-3 day tourney you can jet out and be home like you never left it, this is weeks and weeks till tsl is over. How long was tsl1? The circumstances change everything. He should be disqualified but not shit on by being on some public stoning list where everyone else plays comfortably from home. No sireee. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:24 DrTJEckleburg wrote: Wow, in that context it even seems like he should be detested by the community more than the rest of these people. Didn't remember that he had even made agreements with you guys to fly out to play to circumvent the no Chinese rule and then pulls this. Also don't forget that F91 owes a lot of his popularity outside of China to Liquibition, which TL invited him to play in and also paid him hundreds of dollars for winning. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:34 JWD wrote: Also don't forget that F91 owes a lot of his popularity outside of China to Liquibition, which TL invited him to play in and also paid him hundreds of dollars for winning. look, I dunno how views got so skewed he got paid dollars for WINNING like anybody would get the purse for winning, how's that a favor AGAIN? liquibition invited him for playing at high level, he won and got some money. in my world that's called a fair n square. | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:33 .risingdragoon wrote: which is fair to me, you? with his skills qualifier 2 or 3, top 48 or top 12 wouldn't matter, he'd make it. but he had to fly out for extended amount of time in the case of q2. this isn't a 2-3 day tourney you can jet out and be home like you never left it, this is weeks and weeks till tsl is over. How long was tsl1? The circumstances change everything. He should be disqualified but not shit on by being on some public stoning list where everyone else plays comfortably from home. No sireee. fairness doesn't even enter into it, if anything TL was overly fair to him by just granting him the ability to ladder while in China he was given the sole exception and fucked it up by abusing in a tournament worth 22,000 dollars run by the same people that have invited him to their tournaments previously he is trash | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:37 .risingdragoon wrote: look, I dunno how views got so skewed he got paid dollars for WINNING like anybody would get the purse for winning, how's that a favor AGAIN? wow | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 13 2009 20:59 Oystein wrote: lol if this continue I just might have gotten in if had just quit at 9,3k. Lol, maybe so. WTF people, there was so much fucking hype about dimaga and then he fucking cheats... WOW, what a let down. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:40 H wrote: fairness doesn't even enter into it, if anything TL was overly fair to him by just granting him the ability to ladder while in China he was given the sole exception and fucked it up by abusing in a tournament worth 22,000 dollars run by the same people that have invited him to their tournaments previously he is trash True and he did cheat just like everyone else on the list but I am more accepting of his situation than anyone else. He HAD to make it to the top 12 because that was the only time he could be in Taiwan or wherever he was going. The rest of the people simply dont have ANY excuses since they were already in the top 48... But im not justifying anything. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
And at the top is Reason I never felt such a stronge urge to simply say '' FUCK YOU '' because thats exactly what I felt after reading your post/s A simple sorry would have done it. Or '' it was stupid '', '' i regret it'' 1) Most koreans dont fucking know you anymore and if they do they wont dodge 2) There are four times more qualiyfing without abusing than there are abusers tell me how did they do the impossible when you well known Reason feared on the whole planet got dodged all the time and saw now other out.. Seriously.. I never knew excuses would piss me off that much but in this case I cant believe what you wrote. I will stop here cause I dont want to risk a ban or something but Im lacking the words to describe what I felt after reading your posts. Its one thing to do something bad and unfair but its a total different thing to come back and instead of being just sorry for it posting such ridicolous excuses.. wtf... If anything all of those cheaters should feel so stupid. 3 Games less wouldnt have made a difference for yosh who was high in the A, Dimaga or Reason.. U have your right to feel stupid now but its SO unbelievable cheap to blame the tsl2 admins for not being able to implement a proper system which lead u to abusing.. Srry Reason thats just so fucking ridicolous .. In the end I have to say: I didnt really care about guys like RiboRibo or Vasilisk, barely heard of em.. But Dimaga and yosh abusing is something I would have never ever thought.. And A2 abusing as well.. Its just so unneeded.. If anything it was THE FEAR of not doing good enough .. good night all.. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Some people here are freaking me out And at the top is Reason I never felt such a stronge urge to simply say '' FUCK YOU '' because thats exactly what I felt after reading your post/s A simple sorry would have done it. Or '' it was stupid '', '' i regret it'' 1) Most koreans dont fucking know you anymore and if they do they wont dodge 2) There are four times more qualiyfing without abusing than there are abusers tell me how did they do the impossible when you well known Reason feared on the whole planet got dodged all the time and saw now other out.. Seriously.. I never knew excuses would piss me off that much but in this case I cant believe what you wrote. I will stop here cause I dont want to risk a ban or something but Im lacking the words to describe what I felt after reading your posts. Its one thing to do something bad and unfair but its a total different thing to come back and instead of being just sorry for it posting such ridicolous excuses.. wtf... If anything all of those cheaters should feel so stupid. 3 Games less wouldnt have made a difference for yosh who was high in the A, Dimaga or Reason.. U have your right to feel stupid now but its SO unbelievable cheap to blame the tsl2 admins for not being able to implement a proper system which lead u to abusing.. Srry Reason thats just so fucking ridicolous .. In the end I have to say: I didnt really care about guys like RiboRibo or Vasilisk, barely heard of em.. But Dimaga and yosh abusing is something I would have never ever thought.. And A2 abusing as well.. Its just so unneeded.. If anything it was THE FEAR of not doing good enough .. good night all.. Who the hell are you going off on? You didn't quote anyone and you keep saying "you" which is making me think you're talking about me since i posted before you. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
well reason coulda said sorry first then go into his reasons (lol). it's the same to him probly but it's a big difference for everyone else I guess. | ||
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BG1
Canada1550 Posts
On December 14 2009 06:55 GreEny K wrote: Who the hell are you going off on? You didn't quote anyone and you keep saying "you" which is making me think you're talking about me since i posted before you. Clearly he's adressing Reason, as he mentions at the top of his post. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
I find it just utterly ridicolous that he's blaming the tsl2 organization crew Or his fame .. good lord.. I will stop here or Im risking a ban.. its all fine.. just sad that many good names are now dqed.. =( | ||
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