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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 13 2009 06:00 GMT
#61
hahaha Superiorwolf, why am I not surprised
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 13 2009 06:00 GMT
#62
I wonder how much abuse happened in other league ladders like GOM and ASL. I don't think they payed this close of attention to abuse. I am sure it was rampant.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
December 13 2009 06:01 GMT
#63
On December 13 2009 14:32 KwarK wrote:
You know what, this actually makes me feel pretty vindicated. I got so much random crap thrown at me because I purposefully sought out players I knew I could beat and farmed them but not once did I consider asking someone to throw a game or utilising one of my other B+ accounts to throw myself games. These are what actual abusers look like. Let's see how the mob treats their heroes now.

Thanks Kwark. When I entered this thread the first thing I wondered was "How does this affect Kwark?" Thankfully you posted within the first 10 replies to let us all know.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 06:02:41
December 13 2009 06:01 GMT
#64
On December 13 2009 14:53 Superiorwolf wrote:
Lol wtf? I can't believe TSL is disqualifying yosh. That is ridiculous. And from what I can tell, it is an ambiguous two games that would still leave him at the top 12 even if he did not have those games. What rank were those games at? And was the IP for the second account matching yosh?

People calling him a scammer and abuser are really misinformed, first of all even if those two games WERE abuse he was still top 12 and even then I don't think he abused. I hope TSL reconsiders their decision.

Why should it matter how good you are or where you're ranked? Are you saying that the top players should be allowed to abuse as long as it doesn't give them THAT many points? The point of TSL is fair competition and he did not uphold that.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11558 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 06:03:37
December 13 2009 06:01 GMT
#65
On December 13 2009 14:58 IdrA wrote:
oh goody superiorwolf is defending someone
thats always entertaining



Edit: I can't understand how anybody could possibly defend yosh after what he did. -_-

Abuse is abuse, even if it doesn't affect others that much (which wasn't even the case here!). He played on that account and beat other players, jeopardizing their chances at the top 48 or top 12 etc.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 13 2009 06:01 GMT
#66
On December 13 2009 14:58 Superiorwolf wrote:
Well it's a double standard if someone else flamed A2 and F91 and then defended Sherwin, but I didn't flame either of them.

please don't do this.. you're not seriously asking to allow someone to play TSL after abusing..
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43850 Posts
December 13 2009 06:03 GMT
#67
On December 13 2009 15:01 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 14:32 KwarK wrote:
You know what, this actually makes me feel pretty vindicated. I got so much random crap thrown at me because I purposefully sought out players I knew I could beat and farmed them but not once did I consider asking someone to throw a game or utilising one of my other B+ accounts to throw myself games. These are what actual abusers look like. Let's see how the mob treats their heroes now.

Thanks Kwark. When I entered this thread the first thing I wondered was "How does this affect Kwark?" Thankfully you posted within the first 10 replies to let us all know.

Thanks Chill. When I made that post I couldn't help thinking "What does Chill think about my post?". Thankfully you saw it and replied to let us all know.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
December 13 2009 06:03 GMT
#68
On December 13 2009 15:00 Bosu wrote:
I wonder how much abuse happened in other league ladders like GOM and ASL. I don't think they payed this close of attention to abuse. I am sure it was rampant.


well there wasn't as much coverage or prize money on the line compared to this.
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John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
December 13 2009 06:03 GMT
#69
Wasn't Yosh one of the guest Teachers for the Berkeley starcraft class? I wonder what the students will think?

As for Scan, when you listen to that much K-pop you can expect brain rotting, retardation and ladder abuse/cheating.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
December 13 2009 06:04 GMT
#70
On December 13 2009 14:53 Superiorwolf wrote:
Lol wtf? I can't believe TSL is disqualifying yosh. That is ridiculous. And from what I can tell, it is an ambiguous two games that would still leave him at the top 12 even if he did not have those games. What rank were those games at? And was the IP for the second account matching yosh?

People calling him a scammer and abuser are really misinformed, first of all even if those two games WERE abuse he was still top 12 and even then I don't think he abused. I hope TSL reconsiders their decision.

Are you seriously this retarded? It's evidence against this:
I don't think he abused


WOW WHICH WILL I CHOOSE? Evidence or Superiorwolf's arbitrary character analysis? Hmmmm.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 06:05:18
December 13 2009 06:04 GMT
#71
On December 13 2009 15:03 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 15:00 Bosu wrote:
I wonder how much abuse happened in other league ladders like GOM and ASL. I don't think they payed this close of attention to abuse. I am sure it was rampant.


well there wasn't as much coverage or prize money on the line compared to this.



Thats not really the point.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
December 13 2009 06:05 GMT
#72
On December 13 2009 15:03 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 15:01 Chill wrote:
On December 13 2009 14:32 KwarK wrote:
You know what, this actually makes me feel pretty vindicated. I got so much random crap thrown at me because I purposefully sought out players I knew I could beat and farmed them but not once did I consider asking someone to throw a game or utilising one of my other B+ accounts to throw myself games. These are what actual abusers look like. Let's see how the mob treats their heroes now.

Thanks Kwark. When I entered this thread the first thing I wondered was "How does this affect Kwark?" Thankfully you posted within the first 10 replies to let us all know.

Thanks Chill. When I made that post I couldn't help thinking "What does Chill think about my post?". Thankfully you saw it and replied to let us all know.

Here's the difference, Kwark. I comment on the topic and people's replies. You always, always enter a thread to talk about yourself. It's getting so tired.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
December 13 2009 06:06 GMT
#73
die in a fire abusers.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11558 Posts
December 13 2009 06:06 GMT
#74
On December 13 2009 15:04 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 15:03 GTR wrote:
On December 13 2009 15:00 Bosu wrote:
I wonder how much abuse happened in other league ladders like GOM and ASL. I don't think they payed this close of attention to abuse. I am sure it was rampant.


well there wasn't as much coverage or prize money on the line compared to this.



Thats not really the point.


maybe they are inferior to the TSL then?
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phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
December 13 2009 06:06 GMT
#75
o.O
I did not know about this rule:

No multiple or shared TSL accounts. You may have another ICCup account without a TSL tag, but that account cannot play games against TSL tagged players.


I'm curious as to how many more people will get DQd because of this, if TSL + iccup staff keep checking people like that (I feel like this number is going to be in the 10s...)
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 13 2009 06:06 GMT
#76
but he was vindicated chill
he didnt cheat nearly as bad as these guys
the world must know
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AdreN
Profile Joined December 2009
United States9 Posts
December 13 2009 06:07 GMT
#77
I was always a fan of yosh, and was really impressed by his performance in TSL. such a shame T.T
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sutureself
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States192 Posts
December 13 2009 06:08 GMT
#78
From what I'm seeing, it wasn't only those 2 games. Yosh also played other TSL players on his non-TSL account, and that's been against the rules from the start. I hope those players didn't know it was a smurfing Yosh, though... otherwise... ?

Hate cheaters. Dirty rotten cheaters. Good riddance.

Love TL, for being as thorough as they can to maintain the integrity of the event. This thing has got to be a clusterfuck and I don't envy the detectives on the case.

Looking forward to the next rounds.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 13 2009 06:08 GMT
#79
Ughhh how depressing.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 06:09:23
December 13 2009 06:08 GMT
#80
also now i'm expecting alot more people to be caught =(
because honestly, these ppls abuse strategies are pretty half-assed and stupid... it's pretty much common knowledge that your IPs can be found and matched up and whatnot by any decent admin/mod/webmaster etc of the sites you use and visit

im thinking the admin peeps arent even through 10% of their abuse-detection work, and with 6 people caught already, i dont think setting a maragin of 60 players is enough, sadly =(((((
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