I wonder what will happen to the "game theory" class Yosh is trying to help with at Berkley.
Not only did he destroy his reputation but also the potential for sc to spread within Berkley as a legitimate class.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

December 14 2009 06:42 GMT

#346

On December 14 2009 15:39 SniperVul5 wrote:
I wonder what will happen to the "game theory" class Yosh is trying to help with at Berkley.
Not only did he destroy his reputation but also the potential for sc to spread within Berkley as a legitimate class.

In my honest opinion? Nothing will happen to the class, as he's still an amazing Starcraft player. If I was in the class, I'd still want him teaching me.

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

December 14 2009 06:59 GMT

#347

whoopss

iSCd

80 Posts

December 14 2009 12:35 GMT

#348

~~QFT~~ wrong quote somehow - sry

Chillz

Canada100 Posts

December 14 2009 13:12 GMT

#349

On December 14 2009 13:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote:
i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....

if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...

thats like saying this to a maphacker.

"Well I knew I was better than them, so I just wanted to end the game faster. I mean, I would have scouted them naturally, and still won, this just made it faster and better use of my time."

Guess what, its still cheating. ABUSING a system of rules at the benefit of yourself and the detriment of others is cheating. Convincing people to give up free wins to you, or the like is actually far worse in terms of a ladder situation than a maphacker.

Justifying the actions of cheaters is why they can continue to get away with this behaviour. THIS BEHAVIOUR should never be condoned, it should be shunned and people who have shown their true colours in this tournament now must pay a price of time before they can earn the respect and trust they once had back, if they can ever come back and not just be banned outright.

Anything less than that doesn't stop this behaviour in others, or send any real message to the community other than "its ok as long as you dont get caught, and even if you do, its a slap on the wrists."

I agree that this behavior should be dealt with strictly ... but what ticks me off is that people even need something to be scared of at all. Is someone who plays straight just because he is too scared to play dirty someone we really want around in the first place? They still have the heart of a cheater ... you just don't get the opportunity to see it.

People need to grow some morality.

Hyperionnn

Turkey4968 Posts

December 14 2009 14:05 GMT

#350

Is playing against TSL guys with another account legal when you have a tsl account?

grobo

Japan6199 Posts

December 14 2009 14:12 GMT

#351

On December 14 2009 23:05 Hyperionnn wrote:
Is playing against TSL guys with another account legal when you have a tsl account?

iSCd

80 Posts

December 14 2009 14:35 GMT

#352

On December 14 2009 22:12 Chillz wrote:

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the latter d be nice, but as we ll never be able to trust everyone's morality I think scarying cheaters into playing according to the rules is acceptable. At least we can (hopefully) preserve conditions fair players dont feel urged/allowed to cheat "bcs everyone does it" this way. Pro cycling didnt manage such conditions and look at the mess it is in.

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

December 14 2009 16:07 GMT

#353

On December 13 2009 17:18 Bill307 wrote:
What comes to mind when I think of Yosh?

~~Inspiring Terran from my early SC days~~

~~Amazing game vs Grrrr... in WCG Canada 2002~~

~~Volunteer lecturer for a StarCraft course~~

TSL abuser

On December 28 2002 07:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

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You want the whole list?

Gamei abuse (when he was in vC, not SG)
Clanbase abuse
WGTour abuse
KBK abuse
TSL abuse

I know I forgot about a few cases, maybe someone else can finnish the list.

However Yosh is a good player despite being the abuser that he is, unlike Testie.

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