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John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
December 14 2009 04:43 GMT
#341
On December 14 2009 13:09 mikku wrote:
No surprise with SCAN. I'd be more shocked if he hadn't cheated or hacked


That's what I'm talking about. Kid abused before I wasn't the bit surprised of this new.
“The beauty of Bill's system was that there was always a place to go with the ball, ... I was the mailman, just delivering people's mail, and there were all kinds of houses to go to.”-Joe Montana
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
December 14 2009 04:51 GMT
#342
T.T Drama...
Nothing worth having comes easy.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 14 2009 05:36 GMT
#343
lool, this is weird, why abuse ? :O
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
December 14 2009 05:56 GMT
#344
... why yosh.. why

UNFUCK YOURSELF
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
December 14 2009 06:39 GMT
#345
I wonder what will happen to the "game theory" class Yosh is trying to help with at Berkley.
Not only did he destroy his reputation but also the potential for sc to spread within Berkley as a legitimate class.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 14 2009 06:42 GMT
#346
On December 14 2009 15:39 SniperVul5 wrote:
I wonder what will happen to the "game theory" class Yosh is trying to help with at Berkley.
Not only did he destroy his reputation but also the potential for sc to spread within Berkley as a legitimate class.


In my honest opinion? Nothing will happen to the class, as he's still an amazing Starcraft player. If I was in the class, I'd still want him teaching me.
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-14 06:59:41
December 14 2009 06:59 GMT
#347
whoopss
manner
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-14 14:28:02
December 14 2009 12:35 GMT
#348
QFT wrong quote somehow - sry
For the swarm!
Chillz
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-14 13:13:56
December 14 2009 13:12 GMT
#349
On December 14 2009 13:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote:
i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....

if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...


thats like saying this to a maphacker.

"Well I knew I was better than them, so I just wanted to end the game faster. I mean, I would have scouted them naturally, and still won, this just made it faster and better use of my time."

Guess what, its still cheating. ABUSING a system of rules at the benefit of yourself and the detriment of others is cheating. Convincing people to give up free wins to you, or the like is actually far worse in terms of a ladder situation than a maphacker.

Justifying the actions of cheaters is why they can continue to get away with this behaviour. THIS BEHAVIOUR should never be condoned, it should be shunned and people who have shown their true colours in this tournament now must pay a price of time before they can earn the respect and trust they once had back, if they can ever come back and not just be banned outright.

Anything less than that doesn't stop this behaviour in others, or send any real message to the community other than "its ok as long as you dont get caught, and even if you do, its a slap on the wrists."


I agree that this behavior should be dealt with strictly ... but what ticks me off is that people even need something to be scared of at all. Is someone who plays straight just because he is too scared to play dirty someone we really want around in the first place? They still have the heart of a cheater ... you just don't get the opportunity to see it.

People need to grow some morality.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 14 2009 14:05 GMT
#350
Is playing against TSL guys with another account legal when you have a tsl account?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2009 14:12 GMT
#351
On December 14 2009 23:05 Hyperionnn wrote:
Is playing against TSL guys with another account legal when you have a tsl account?


No
We make signature, then defense it.
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
December 14 2009 14:35 GMT
#352
On December 14 2009 22:12 Chillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 13:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote:
i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....

if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...


thats like saying this to a maphacker.

"Well I knew I was better than them, so I just wanted to end the game faster. I mean, I would have scouted them naturally, and still won, this just made it faster and better use of my time."

Guess what, its still cheating. ABUSING a system of rules at the benefit of yourself and the detriment of others is cheating. Convincing people to give up free wins to you, or the like is actually far worse in terms of a ladder situation than a maphacker.

Justifying the actions of cheaters is why they can continue to get away with this behaviour. THIS BEHAVIOUR should never be condoned, it should be shunned and people who have shown their true colours in this tournament now must pay a price of time before they can earn the respect and trust they once had back, if they can ever come back and not just be banned outright.

Anything less than that doesn't stop this behaviour in others, or send any real message to the community other than "its ok as long as you dont get caught, and even if you do, its a slap on the wrists."


I agree that this behavior should be dealt with strictly ... but what ticks me off is that people even need something to be scared of at all. Is someone who plays straight just because he is too scared to play dirty someone we really want around in the first place? They still have the heart of a cheater ... you just don't get the opportunity to see it.

People need to grow some morality.


the latter d be nice, but as we ll never be able to trust everyone's morality I think scarying cheaters into playing according to the rules is acceptable. At least we can (hopefully) preserve conditions fair players dont feel urged/allowed to cheat "bcs everyone does it" this way. Pro cycling didnt manage such conditions and look at the mess it is in.
For the swarm!
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
December 14 2009 16:07 GMT
#353
On December 13 2009 17:18 Bill307 wrote:
What comes to mind when I think of Yosh?

Inspiring Terran from my early SC days

Amazing game vs Grrrr... in WCG Canada 2002

Volunteer lecturer for a StarCraft course

TSL abuser


On December 28 2002 07:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2002 00:09 fZ-DoGG wrote:how the hell is yosh a cheater?

You want the whole list?

Gamei abuse (when he was in vC, not SG)
Clanbase abuse
WGTour abuse
KBK abuse
TSL abuse

I know I forgot about a few cases, maybe someone else can finnish the list.

However Yosh is a good player despite being the abuser that he is, unlike Testie.


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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 14 2009 16:19 GMT
#354
ouch
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 14 2009 16:23 GMT
#355
wow. As my good friend Artosis would say in all caps. Get the fuck out of my community.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 14 2009 16:44 GMT
#356
lolz

haha

dont even know what to say to this.. ^^
hatred outlives the hateful
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 14 2009 16:48 GMT
#357
On December 15 2009 01:23 Kennigit wrote:
wow. As my good friend Artosis would say in all caps. Get the fuck out of my community.

you newbie*
or newbie piece of shit
or something like that
i really wish you guys hadnt nuked that post
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
December 14 2009 18:00 GMT
#358
On December 13 2009 14:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I want more and more people kicked for drama purposes. Woot drama!


This! It's so awesome Even when it's sad the drama and embarrassment, outrage, pain, shame... its got everything. Delicious :D
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
December 14 2009 18:04 GMT
#359
On December 15 2009 03:00 InClass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 14:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I want more and more people kicked for drama purposes. Woot drama!


This! It's so awesome Even when it's sad the drama and embarrassment, outrage, pain, shame... its got everything. Delicious :D

I don't understand how marwin can find another ukrainian so early in the morning and play 3 games which he need so much at the very last moment!?
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 14 2009 18:25 GMT
#360
Good riddance, the TSL is still going to be awesome without all of these abusers.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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