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On December 14 2009 09:01 MoOnrai11 wrote: yeah i remember when i did this shit in the last tsl people made it seem impossible. forgive these players the pressure probably got to them like it did to me.. lol didnt u abuse with lastshadow
bc the "pressure" definitely got to u
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Wow... what the fuck. All that trouble for like 3 wins...
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The sad thing is a lot of these players would have qualified anyway. So stupid.
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Whats quite interesting is that advokate has only played 2 games against the korean smurf, and not 3 as the bot claims?
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On December 14 2009 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The sad thing is a lot of these players would have qualified anyway. So stupid. the sad thing for me is, lesser awesome games f91 and a2 would have produced some nice games , oh well shit happens
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Quit crying about `less good games`... the less cheaters there are the better the games will be because we know they are coming from people with legit skill who are willing to work hard instead of taking the easy road.
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This is so sad. First Advocate and F91. Now yosh and Diamaga... Wth guys?!
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On December 14 2009 10:21 Art_of_Kill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The sad thing is a lot of these players would have qualified anyway. So stupid. the sad thing for me is, lesser awesome games f91 and a2 would have produced some nice games , oh well shit happens
They might just as well have cheated 2 even more awesome players out of the league though.
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On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote: i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....
if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...
Who are you to decide that determined players are not allowed to qualify denying some less determined possibly stronger players? This is part of almost every sport and part of its fun too! I for instance dont mind having the ultra dedicated Mamon instead of a semi-dedicated Dimaga in the TSL. Cheaters seem to grant themself the right to be in the top48 based on there own picture of who should be in - this is not acceptable!
ie: South Korea made an amazing run in the 2002 football WC reaching rank 4. They were definitly not the 4th best team, but fought so hard pumped by playing in their own country that its been a pleasure to watch.
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On December 14 2009 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The sad thing is a lot of these players would have qualified anyway. So stupid.
thats what I still don't get!
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On December 14 2009 04:17 Liquid`NonY wrote: wow don't take the pussies complaining so seriously. Couldn't find opponents, didn't have enough time... Rofl these are the shittiest excuses being uttered by cheating poooooossies and you buy into it. zzzzzzz
Nony is right.
Screw everybody who tries to get in by cheating. This is 10,000 dollars we're talking about. Excuses are pathetic.
Obviously I suck at SC compared to A2, Dimaga, Yosh, etc. but at least I can say that I've never cheated.
And say what you will about Idra's bm, at least he's always played his games fairly.
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OMFG Yosh !! I've been a Yosh fan for so long I was so eager to see that old school badass compete.
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On December 14 2009 11:39 iSCd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote: i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....
if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend... Who are you to decide that determined players are not allowed to qualify denying some less determined possibly stronger players? This is part of almost every sport and part of its fun too! I for instance dont mind having the ultra dedicated Mamon instead of a semi-dedicated Dimaga in the TSL. Cheaters seem to grant themself the right to be in the top48 based on there own picture of who should be in - this is not acceptable! ie: South Korea made an amazing run in the 2002 football WC reaching rank 4. They were definitly not the 4th best team, but fought so hard pumped by playing in their own country that its been a pleasure to watch.
QFT
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This thread Make me LOL so much .
Scan has pretty bad reputation even before he abused in TSL. We all know that he is not being fair player. Only a cheater or someone who is really stupid can ask for mercy to any abuser no matter if he has 100-0 record or 50-50 .
the fact the people cheat in 2-3 games only, does not really matter for the final standings makes me think that they have been doing this constantly... Hope admins do their job now and ban them from ICCUP and TL for at least 1 year !!!
from the other side in my opinion this tournament was really nice way to see who is cheater and who is not !!! I hope you realize that these abusers did not just learn how to cheat... I am sure most of them have done if before too and that is why they need to be banned!!!
A few days ago i saw SCAN on his stream showing the records he made 100-20 ; 85-11 or something like that and trying to make a big deal of his A- account with only ~11 losses. This guy is total disaster . Once he failed so bad in game against LzGamer. I mean that LzGamer asked him for re-game and that little abuser told him yes, sure , i will just restart my computer and then we will paly .. He was streaming at the same time and he did not restart .. he was watching the replay from that game ... Then he started playing with other people. Dumbest and most pity person i have ever seen ( SCAN - BF or whatever his nickname is ) Really nice job Admins!!! keep the good work and get all of them ! 
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Lolololol silly Scan, you dweeb
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No surprise with SCAN. I'd be more shocked if he hadn't cheated or hacked
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On December 14 2009 12:56 TheGladiator_BG wrote:This thread Make me LOL so much . Scan has pretty bad reputation even before he abused in TSL. We all know that he is not being fair player. Only a cheater or someone who is really stupid can ask for mercy to any abuser no matter if he has 100-0 record or 50-50 . the fact the people cheat in 2-3 games only, does not really matter for the final standings makes me think that they have been doing this constantly... Hope admins do their job now and ban them from ICCUP and TL for at least 1 year !!! from the other side in my opinion this tournament was really nice way to see who is cheater and who is not !!! I hope you realize that these abusers did not just learn how to cheat... I am sure most of them have done if before too and that is why they need to be banned!!! A few days ago i saw SCAN on his stream showing the records he made 100-20 ; 85-11 or something like that and trying to make a big deal of his A- account with only ~11 losses. This guy is total disaster . Once he failed so bad in game against LzGamer. I mean that LzGamer asked him for re-game and that little abuser told him yes, sure , i will just restart my computer and then we will paly .. He was streaming at the same time and he did not restart .. he was watching the replay from that game ... Then he started playing with other people. Dumbest and most pity person i have ever seen ( SCAN - BF or whatever his nickname is ) Really nice job Admins!!! keep the good work and get all of them !  Ye what a funny story... kid went west and was showing his friends the rep and never came back while i waited.. so.. obviously screw that kid.. he's a joke.. allways has been.. allways will be...
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poiuytrewqz, Mpisnw, jjlasdiaajak account names like this?... really? might as well used heyimcheating or givefreepoints...
its like Sir Isaac Newton cheating on a 5th grade math test.
Christmas ruined.
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So does this mean we're reconsidering the position of "BF" in the iCCup hackers list?
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On December 14 2009 04:10 purgerinho wrote: i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....
if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...
thats like saying this to a maphacker.
"Well I knew I was better than them, so I just wanted to end the game faster. I mean, I would have scouted them naturally, and still won, this just made it faster and better use of my time."
Guess what, its still cheating. ABUSING a system of rules at the benefit of yourself and the detriment of others is cheating. Convincing people to give up free wins to you, or the like is actually far worse in terms of a ladder situation than a maphacker.
Justifying the actions of cheaters is why they can continue to get away with this behaviour. THIS BEHAVIOUR should never be condoned, it should be shunned and people who have shown their true colours in this tournament now must pay a price of time before they can earn the respect and trust they once had back, if they can ever come back and not just be banned outright.
Anything less than that doesn't stop this behaviour in others, or send any real message to the community other than "its ok as long as you dont get caught, and even if you do, its a slap on the wrists."
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