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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
December 13 2009 15:32 GMT
#281
Scan was streaming when he created his ImAsian account Can't be too bright.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 13 2009 15:40 GMT
#282
Scan is a narcissistic egotistic bm fucking retard and measures shouldve been taken against him beforehand and against his stream, he was caught hacking separately on 2 accounts in the iccup purge and I was surprised to still see him stream. Well the good thing now that he is gone from TL forever.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
xicoo
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal55 Posts
December 13 2009 15:45 GMT
#283
LOL is Scan´s QI = 0 :O who creates an account with dozens of ppl watchiing and use that account to cheat ladder.... just feel bad for some of the players who were close to top48 and had to play to get in and fell behind... if they hadnt played they would be in by now.
ignorance is bliss!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
December 13 2009 15:53 GMT
#284
wow yosh =/
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
December 13 2009 16:03 GMT
#285
On December 13 2009 14:28 FragKrag wrote:
Aw man Yosh. That just really sucks that he had to abuse

I was looking forward to seeing him play after that amazing streak.


lol "had to..."

2 free wins... Is it really worth it? He would have achieved top 12 without it, he could just have bashed 2 less skilled players, which would mean a lot of players. Just so stupid:/
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 13 2009 16:29 GMT
#286
What the hell guys? Jeez, Im having a hard time showing the same level of respect after finding out players cheat.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 13 2009 16:30 GMT
#287
Yosh shouldn't be in TSL for this season because of what he did, but people saying stupid shit like "he's a douchebag" and "I've lost respect for him" that's just way out of line.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 16:31 GMT
#288
On December 14 2009 01:29 DyEnasTy wrote:
What the hell guys? Jeez, Im having a hard time showing the same level of respect after finding out players cheat.


Don't worry, they don't deserve the same level of respect anymore.
We make signature, then defense it.
SpaceDominator
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States92 Posts
December 13 2009 16:40 GMT
#289
I just have to laugh at how this sort of thing is so shocking to a number of you. Any time you put a significant sum of money on a line for an online tournament of this nature, you will ALWAYS have certain individuals who will manipulate the system for their own gains. These sorts of tournaments show the true character of many, and money will quite often bring out the worst in people, especially on a web site such as this that hypes the pro gaming scene to the nth degree.

On the contrast though, in a ladder system people are always going to find ways to manipulate the system and it just so happens that TL has decided to turn each and every one of these into a public act. It's so funny too considering that a number of the people that are criticizing when put into the same situation as a number of the players that cheated would probably end up doing the same thing. It's a hell of a lot easier to be overly critical when you aren't the one with everything to lose. I'm definitely not justifying the acts that were done here in any means, but don't act as if you're some omnipotent moral individual too and would have acted in perfect accord either if you had a chance.



grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 16:44 GMT
#290
On December 14 2009 01:40 SpaceDominator wrote:
I just have to laugh at how this sort of thing is so shocking to a number of you. Any time you put a significant sum of money on a line for an online tournament of this nature, you will ALWAYS have certain individuals who will manipulate the system for their own gains. These sorts of tournaments show the true character of many, and money will quite often bring out the worst in people, especially on a web site such as this that hypes the pro gaming scene to the nth degree.

On the contrast though, in a ladder system people are always going to find ways to manipulate the system and it just so happens that TL has decided to turn each and every one of these into a public act. It's so funny too considering that a number of the people that are criticizing when put into the same situation as a number of the players that cheated would probably end up doing the same thing. It's a hell of a lot easier to be overly critical when you aren't the one with everything to lose. I'm definitely not justifying the acts that were done here in any means, but don't act as if you're some omnipotent moral individual too and would have acted in perfect accord either if you had a chance.


It's not the fact that some people decided to abuse that is shocking to me, i know things like that will happen when there is so much money on the line, it's the players that decided to abuse the ladder that is shocking. Players like Dimaga, Yosh and A2, it's completely mystifying to me how they would resort to abusing when all this time i have always thought of them as nothing but manner people.
We make signature, then defense it.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
December 13 2009 16:45 GMT
#291
Yea, Yosh of all players. I gained all that respect after seeing him in the starcraft class videos. and now thats all gone
SpaceDominator
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States92 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 16:54:15
December 13 2009 16:53 GMT
#292
Well, here's the thing though. This is also the one time in which it's actually viewed as the player's fault not the tournament administrator's fault which is quite often what ends up occurring in these situation. I seem to remember that in similar situations in the past the blame would always be squarely on the people running the tournament for not being "strict enough" or doing something that many here disagreed with.

Again though, I think in a lot of cases it had to do with either an internal or external pressure to succeed to get into that top level of the ladder to ultimately put themselves in a position for money. Money and pressure can make some people do things they might not normally do.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
December 13 2009 17:03 GMT
#293
On December 13 2009 15:50 Carnac wrote:
The results of this poll would probably look very different it it were started right now


Relatively, I think it would be the same.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 17:08:14
December 13 2009 17:07 GMT
#294
Ugh. Shame.

Edit: Scan, you're a little twerp.
White-Ra fighting!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 13 2009 17:16 GMT
#295
On December 14 2009 01:30 tonight wrote:
Yosh shouldn't be in TSL for this season because of what he did, but people saying stupid shit like "he's a douchebag" and "I've lost respect for him" that's just way out of line.

lolol it's really out of line to stop respecting someone because they cheat? does respect mean anything to you?? hahaha

anyway it's not yosh's first time. kid has a history of shady behavior.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
December 13 2009 17:40 GMT
#296
On December 14 2009 01:30 tonight wrote:
Yosh shouldn't be in TSL for this season because of what he did, but people saying stupid shit like "he's a douchebag" and "I've lost respect for him" that's just way out of line.


cheating is a matter of going to court in some sports... just to put some things in perspective...
For the swarm!
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
December 13 2009 17:42 GMT
#297
really disappointed with yosh. Was looking forward to cheering for him
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
December 13 2009 18:23 GMT
#298
Scan is a royal douche... i recommend perma ban
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 13 2009 19:10 GMT
#299
I hope TL.net removes Scan from the featured stream section.
I am not good with quotes
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 13 2009 19:10 GMT
#300
i respect all of them as i did before this.. this abuse isn't like hacking (cheating) coz all of this players are good enough to be in top48.. all of them done that coz they thought they will not make it coz of the lack of time.. f91 had to be in top12 and in 4am he couldn't find an opponent.. advokate was offline around a week, reason couldn't find a player to play against, dimaga had no time and wanted to make sure....

if you play TSL you must live it... that format doesn't allow that the best players get the spot but there isn't ideal format.. i would just love to see TSL where TSL players can play only against TSL players, not koreans, not chinese, not someone that can be your friend...
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