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DQs: Yosh, RiboRibo, Scan, Mercury - Page 13

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annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
December 13 2009 12:20 GMT
#241
mamon's still not in after 800 games
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 12:26:35
December 13 2009 12:21 GMT
#242
On December 13 2009 20:31 MorroW[MB] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 14:32 KwarK wrote:
You know what, this actually makes me feel pretty vindicated. I got so much random crap thrown at me because I purposefully sought out players I knew I could beat and farmed them but not once did I consider asking someone to throw a game or utilising one of my other B+ accounts to throw myself games. These are what actual abusers look like. Let's see how the mob treats their heroes now.


dude kwark your a fucking saint compared to most. maybe ur not the best gamer but your really mannered and u dont dodge or cheat, respect!



Catfight, catfight, catfight!!

On a more serious note. People are arguing that it's incomprehensible to cheat 2 games when it doesn't matter (like Yosh did) and that it's not as severe as going full out abuse. That's true, but it doesn't matter. It's severe enough to be illegal in the tournament so the rules can not be bent.

Very good job by TL finding all these abusers. I'm personally very sad to see Advokate and Yosh do this as they were my two favorite foreigner Terrans.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 12:25:04
December 13 2009 12:24 GMT
#243
CauthonLuck
Profile Joined July 2009
United States93 Posts
December 13 2009 12:28 GMT
#244
2 games is a huge deal when it bumps you into the top 12 and somebody deserving of it out.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 13 2009 12:32 GMT
#245
On December 13 2009 21:28 CauthonLuck wrote:
2 games is a huge deal when it bumps you into the top 12 and somebody deserving of it out.


And beyond that it effects everybody around you on the ladder and their perceived standing.

My timing on when all of these matches occurred could be off; but the premise behind them is sound.

Look at F91. Had he not cheated he (I believe) would have stayed top 12 with the disqualifications of Yosh and Dimaga. If they cheated prior to f91 cheating he might not have felt the need to play additional games at all in order to maintain his rank in the top 12. I'm not forgiving f91, but merely using him as an example of others playing games they didn't have to because of the inflated ranks of others.
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 13 2009 12:33 GMT
#246
What is wrong with these players? A2,Yosh,Dimaga?! All of those could easily qualify on their own - in fact they were qualified on their own and THEN they decide to abuse?

That is just retarded
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 13 2009 12:39 GMT
#247
This is getting really disgusting.

Is there no sense of "right" in the foreign scene? Why are players so eager to cheat?

57-0 my ass
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
December 13 2009 12:42 GMT
#248
I just dont get why players that should be able to reach the top ranks anyway would cheat? Disrespects the tournament, the organisers and the comunity for no reason whatsoever besides lazyness?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 13 2009 12:52 GMT
#249
Agreed, the TSL staff must be extremely pissed off by now...
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
December 13 2009 12:53 GMT
#250
On December 13 2009 19:16 IntoTheWow wrote:
Are you serious? why would top players do this?

You guys (a2, yosh) are so dumb for doing this. You deserve to be DQ'ed for this. DUMB DUMB DUUUUUUMB.

-_-


FOR MONEY THE MONKEYS DANCE!!
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
December 13 2009 13:17 GMT
#251
Although I agree that its a good thing to DQ abusers..Yosh and Dimaga easily qualified by themselves without abusing and they were probably good enough to make top8..

Very dissapointing I guess..
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 13 2009 13:20 GMT
#252
On December 13 2009 17:22 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Look, I understand why you guys would want to DQ people for abusing etc, but some people, like Advokate and Yosh would have been qualified even with the "abuse" games removed, and should have just had points removed. All your doing is removing competition for IdrA/Ret.

You cannot be serious.

lol
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 13:29:15
December 13 2009 13:22 GMT
#253
You gotta be pretty stupid to cheat in such a serious tournament with so much money at stake.
Quite amazed by what some of the more known players do. Definantly bringing down the overall rep. of the foreign scene.

Disgusted
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SpaceDominator
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States92 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 13:28:39
December 13 2009 13:27 GMT
#254
On December 13 2009 21:39 JWD wrote:
This is getting really disgusting.

Is there no sense of "right" in the foreign scene? Why are players so eager to cheat?

57-0 my ass


When you put up a prize pool that is as large as the one that you have here at TSL you are going to naturally get players that are going to do just about anything to get them into a position to compete for that money. This is why you are going to have people thinking of different ways to abuse your system to make it easier for them to get what they want. This isn't rocket science. Consider as well that online people are not going to be held to that same "moral standard" that they would during a live event. Also, I guarantee that you are going to have people that are just outside of the top 48 that are going to be coming up with their own conspiracy theories just to try to boost themselves up into that top group.

This is simply the other side of the coin that you will have to deal with as an admin of any event that has a large prize pool placed up there in the front. You just have to accept it and do what you can to try to punish those that are overly abusing the system.

It isn't rocket science.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 13 2009 13:27 GMT
#255
On December 13 2009 21:42 Promises wrote:
I just dont get why players that should be able to reach the top ranks anyway would cheat? Disrespects the tournament, the organisers and the comunity for no reason whatsoever besides lazyness?

the only theory that makes sense to me is that they wanted to probe other top players without beeing probed themselves. the acutal point abuse came later and was the kind of a second of stupidness decision.
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
December 13 2009 14:01 GMT
#256
On December 13 2009 18:27 Ao_Jun wrote:
HAha i remember last night after scan had been streaming for like 13++ hours and failing to get top 48. He then closed his stream and said "Ok guys, closing stream - time to concentrate"


As he kept playing after stopping to stream after 13++ hours and started to win a series of games in 5minutes - it smelled so much like cheating...

"Time to concentrate" - WTF - as if he was not concentrating before and just needs to play real to get 500points in 30min or something...

Disgusting!
Hope he ll be banned from streaming on TL!
For the swarm!
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
December 13 2009 14:09 GMT
#257
After all the hype scan tried to build up about himself...he failed miserably.
He was his own personal fluffer and choked :o





bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 14:19 GMT
#258
I checked the other one first. lol...

9 so far. Oh my.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 14:20 GMT
#259
On December 13 2009 21:39 JWD wrote:
This is getting really disgusting.

Is there no sense of "right" in the foreign scene? Why are players so eager to cheat?

57-0 my ass


Because $22,000 is on the line. It isn't just about respect and honor you know. Anyone could see this from a mile.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 13 2009 14:21 GMT
#260
everything would be great if TSL is only for TSL players... i can't see any reason why players can play with anyone that isn't in TSL.. makes no sense..

with rule to play only TSL players you would stop abuse but with this you have some players that managed to abuse and haven't been caught..

i wish i could know how many players had opponents that didn't bother to give them real resistance
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