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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44256 Posts
December 01 2009 22:05 GMT
#81
If I can dodge my way to A- about 150 top foreigners can. It won't be enough.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 02 2009 15:08 GMT
#82
A-, maybe a couple B+
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BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
December 02 2009 16:56 GMT
#83
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44256 Posts
December 03 2009 19:02 GMT
#84
Revised estimate, 10k to qualify.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 03 2009 20:10 GMT
#85
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.


Yup, some pretty mediocre players are going to qualify as this ;o
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 03 2009 21:45 GMT
#86
On December 04 2009 04:02 KwarK wrote:
Revised estimate, 10k to qualify.


Playing 100 D ranks is looking more and more tempting...
No I'm never serious.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 04 2009 02:02 GMT
#87
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.

But that is his point.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 04 2009 12:57 GMT
#88
On December 04 2009 11:02 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.

But that is his point.


If this number of foreigners playing were the consistent norm then A- would no longer be considered a "high" rank and difficult for foreigners to attain. Therefore it is not his point. If you mean it proves his point that foreigners are lazy and don't play without a cash prize, then yes it does. But the effect preexists the cause.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Makin
Profile Joined July 2009
Chile36 Posts
December 04 2009 13:38 GMT
#89
there should be a rule that a- players can play only vs a-
sAviOr,Bisu;NaDa fan
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
December 04 2009 13:45 GMT
#90
On December 04 2009 22:38 Makin wrote:
there should be a rule that a- players can play only vs a-


No, there's simply not enough A- players. For the D and C ranks however. ~~
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 15:12:07
December 04 2009 15:10 GMT
#91
the only reason im capable of getting A rank here is because of TSL. it it wasnt going it there wouldnt be enough foreigners to play and we both know the koreans on A- is still too hard for everybody but ret and idra and maybe a few few more

and let me tell you another thing, playing a A- vs B+ both foreigners is almost just as hard as A- vs A-. the level is almost the same trust me. u can see in my match list i lose more vs b+ than a-, coincidence? maybe, but i dont believe so
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
December 04 2009 16:00 GMT
#92
10000 to advance imo : O
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 04 2009 17:22 GMT
#93
It's obvious that with TSL it became a bit easier for top foreigner to achieve high ranks. But this mostly is because many people are trying to climb the ladder - because of TSL.
This does also indicate that foreigners could always reach high ranks if enough foreigners were actually trying. If suddenly for no special reason 100s of strong foreigners were mass laddering, they would still be able to achieve similar ranks as they can with TSL because it creates the same scenario.

If a single foreigner starts mass laddering, he will have trouble with the higher ranks, though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 04 2009 18:15 GMT
#94
I think that this abusing is pretty sweet. Hoping to hit C by the end of this tournament, and then i prob. will be able to get some games from the top contenders. Sure - they wont get alot of points, but in the last few days i expect players to be really careful...And im a instant-win !
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 05 2009 03:58 GMT
#95
On December 05 2009 03:15 Skeggaba wrote:
I think that this abusing is pretty sweet. Hoping to hit C by the end of this tournament, and then i prob. will be able to get some games from the top contenders. Sure - they wont get alot of points, but in the last few days i expect players to be really careful...And im a instant-win !

A- wont play D+... Its just too risky... consider how many point they get if they win and lose... they have to go like 90%+... and you can expect cheese almost every game and a 4 pool isnt much better at a A level than D+...
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
December 05 2009 09:03 GMT
#96
It will definately be A- and some A's in the top. My B/B+ was so wrong. >__<
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 03:12:11
December 09 2009 03:11 GMT
#97
Idra at #32 overall? A+ level? Jesus.

What a beast.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
December 09 2009 05:25 GMT
#98
Right now there are more A- than there are spots!! Holy freaking crap!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
December 09 2009 07:03 GMT
#99
Idra at A+ .... as a terran that is fucking insane.

Congrats!
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
December 09 2009 16:05 GMT
#100
On December 09 2009 16:03 AttackZerg wrote:
Idra at A+ .... as a terran that is fucking insane.

Congrats!


Playing mostly Koreans nonetheless. Beastly shit.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
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