• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:50
CEST 06:50
KST 13:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors7Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors ASL21 General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1321 users

Top48 qualify rank? (poll inside) - Page 5

Forum Index > TSL2 Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43971 Posts
December 01 2009 22:05 GMT
#81
If I can dodge my way to A- about 150 top foreigners can. It won't be enough.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 02 2009 15:08 GMT
#82
A-, maybe a couple B+
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
December 02 2009 16:56 GMT
#83
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43971 Posts
December 03 2009 19:02 GMT
#84
Revised estimate, 10k to qualify.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 03 2009 20:10 GMT
#85
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.


Yup, some pretty mediocre players are going to qualify as this ;o
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 03 2009 21:45 GMT
#86
On December 04 2009 04:02 KwarK wrote:
Revised estimate, 10k to qualify.


Playing 100 D ranks is looking more and more tempting...
No I'm never serious.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 04 2009 02:02 GMT
#87
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.

But that is his point.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 04 2009 12:57 GMT
#88
On December 04 2009 11:02 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 01:56 BalloonFight wrote:
On November 30 2009 05:10 Art.FeeL wrote:
this just proves that foreigners are too capable of getting really high ranks, they are just lazy to play many games. IdrA is 73# overall so that bullshit where top 200 were only koreans it was because they actually have a reason to play many games, while foreigners rarely get a reason like TSL to play so much


This is wrong. TSL is inflating the ranks. Good luck finding 200 foreigners at B+ to play vs if TSL isn't running.

But that is his point.


If this number of foreigners playing were the consistent norm then A- would no longer be considered a "high" rank and difficult for foreigners to attain. Therefore it is not his point. If you mean it proves his point that foreigners are lazy and don't play without a cash prize, then yes it does. But the effect preexists the cause.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Makin
Profile Joined July 2009
Chile36 Posts
December 04 2009 13:38 GMT
#89
there should be a rule that a- players can play only vs a-
sAviOr,Bisu;NaDa fan
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
December 04 2009 13:45 GMT
#90
On December 04 2009 22:38 Makin wrote:
there should be a rule that a- players can play only vs a-


No, there's simply not enough A- players. For the D and C ranks however. ~~
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 15:12:07
December 04 2009 15:10 GMT
#91
the only reason im capable of getting A rank here is because of TSL. it it wasnt going it there wouldnt be enough foreigners to play and we both know the koreans on A- is still too hard for everybody but ret and idra and maybe a few few more

and let me tell you another thing, playing a A- vs B+ both foreigners is almost just as hard as A- vs A-. the level is almost the same trust me. u can see in my match list i lose more vs b+ than a-, coincidence? maybe, but i dont believe so
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
December 04 2009 16:00 GMT
#92
10000 to advance imo : O
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 04 2009 17:22 GMT
#93
It's obvious that with TSL it became a bit easier for top foreigner to achieve high ranks. But this mostly is because many people are trying to climb the ladder - because of TSL.
This does also indicate that foreigners could always reach high ranks if enough foreigners were actually trying. If suddenly for no special reason 100s of strong foreigners were mass laddering, they would still be able to achieve similar ranks as they can with TSL because it creates the same scenario.

If a single foreigner starts mass laddering, he will have trouble with the higher ranks, though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 04 2009 18:15 GMT
#94
I think that this abusing is pretty sweet. Hoping to hit C by the end of this tournament, and then i prob. will be able to get some games from the top contenders. Sure - they wont get alot of points, but in the last few days i expect players to be really careful...And im a instant-win !
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 05 2009 03:58 GMT
#95
On December 05 2009 03:15 Skeggaba wrote:
I think that this abusing is pretty sweet. Hoping to hit C by the end of this tournament, and then i prob. will be able to get some games from the top contenders. Sure - they wont get alot of points, but in the last few days i expect players to be really careful...And im a instant-win !

A- wont play D+... Its just too risky... consider how many point they get if they win and lose... they have to go like 90%+... and you can expect cheese almost every game and a 4 pool isnt much better at a A level than D+...
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
December 05 2009 09:03 GMT
#96
It will definately be A- and some A's in the top. My B/B+ was so wrong. >__<
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 03:12:11
December 09 2009 03:11 GMT
#97
Idra at #32 overall? A+ level? Jesus.

What a beast.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
December 09 2009 05:25 GMT
#98
Right now there are more A- than there are spots!! Holy freaking crap!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7507 Posts
December 09 2009 07:03 GMT
#99
Idra at A+ .... as a terran that is fucking insane.

Congrats!
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
December 09 2009 16:05 GMT
#100
On December 09 2009 16:03 AttackZerg wrote:
Idra at A+ .... as a terran that is fucking insane.

Congrats!


Playing mostly Koreans nonetheless. Beastly shit.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #76
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 185
Nina 66
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3620
JulyZerg 157
910 50
Shinee 29
Noble 19
Bale 12
Icarus 9
GoRush 4
ZergMaN 2
League of Legends
JimRising 733
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1803
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2421
Mew2King60
Other Games
summit1g7134
C9.Mang0436
WinterStarcraft429
monkeys_forever265
NeuroSwarm62
ViBE31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick991
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream58
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 30
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1268
• Lourlo1153
• Stunt408
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 10m
Afreeca Starleague
5h 10m
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
6h 10m
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
PiGosaur Cup
19h 10m
GSL
1d 4h
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
2 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.