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On April 28 2012 01:25 NrGmonk wrote:
New banling reporting for duty. Expect a lot more hilarious bans from the strategy forums.
Holy fuck yeah!
Kill Kill KILL!
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On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that.
I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive.
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On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive.
It was very passive-aggressive, which is the weapon of argumentative choice these days - at least on the net.
I dunno, I have this gut feeling the TB actually handled that really well - I just am struggling to rationalize, or at least articulate that feeling....
TB is not quite the average 'upstanding figurehead of the community' - imagine if any of the top MLG/GSL casters or even players called someone a 'cunt'. He's pretty unique, I mean he pretty much gets away with these things. Unlike say Idra he doesn't have a reputation (outside of TL) as being rage induced, at least not that I know.
He has this kind of position that allows him to really go toe to toe with an obnoxious poster, not in a rise-above-it way but really going down to their level, even beyond it - which I guess is why he just cut to the chase and accelerated that thread; it could have gone on and on over another 10 pages before being closed, but no, someone made the inevitable claim that TB was creating e-drama out of his personal life, making passive aggressive assertions about his wife's infidelity and TB steps up to, in the words of one poster, 'throw petrol on the flames'.
I dunno how to articulate this - except in that that thread was doomed to die, and TB just made sure it was a brutally quick death.
I guess this is why IntoTheWoW said this is why we can't have anything nice...
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On April 28 2012 04:42 Deleuze wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive. It was very passive-aggressive, which is the weapon of argumentative choice these days - at least on the net. I dunno, I have this gut feeling the TB actually handled that really well - I just am struggling to rationalize, or at least articulate that feeling.... TB is not quite the average 'upstanding figurehead of the community' - imagine if any of the top MLG/GSL casters or even players called someone a 'cunt'. He's pretty unique, I mean he pretty much gets away with these things. Unlike say Idra he doesn't have a reputation (outside of TL) as being rage induced, at least not that I know. He has this kind of position that allows him to really go toe to toe with an obnoxious poster, not in a rise-above-it way but really going down to their level, even beyond it - which I guess is why he just cut to the chase and accelerated that thread; it could have gone on and on over another 10 pages before being closed, but no, someone made the inevitable claim that TB was creating e-drama out of his personal life, making passive aggressive assertions about his wife's infidelity and TB steps up to, in the words of one poster, 'throw petrol on the flames'. I dunno how to articulate this - except in that that thread was doomed to die, and TB just made sure it was a brutally quick death. I guess this is why IntoTheWoW said this is why we can't have anything nice...
I can't say a blame him there. I would take a week's ban to cut that off real hard before "TB infidelity e-drama" became a topic of discussion. If there's one thing that flat-out deserves a "fuck you" in any scenario, it's questioning someone's commitment to their spouse, or accusing them of infidelity. Or even worse, of using that to advance some mythical drama.
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On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive.
Yeah, I agree with you. That comment was obnoxious, and if it was a serious objection it could have been phrased more respectfully. But that doesn't excuse this:
On April 26 2012 20:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Wouldn't be gaming without a few self-important morons
On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Buncha fuckin crybabies in here. "oooh he's being rude, esports community, responsibility blah blah blah". Fuck off. You sit behind your walls of anonymity and think you have the right to judge and not be judged in return? When you decide it's a good idea to claim I'm using my family situation for publicity, you'd better be ready to accept the criticism you're going to face for saying that. If you're going to be a judgmental little parasite, except to be treated like one. You lost the right to be treated like a human-being the moment you decided it was a good idea not to act like one. So yeah, if you don't want to get called a cunt, try not being a cunt. If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To the majority of you who are capable of acting like civilized human-beings, thanks for your support.
On April 28 2012 00:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please cry some more, really it's super entertaining. I've handled the situation just fine, told someone exactly what I think of them just like a real grown man does. Over-react my ass. Whiny easily offended little shits have a problem with it, big surprise.
And do drop this "killing esports" shit will you. I do more for esports in a day than you'll do in your lifetime, I'm pretty sure I know how best to make it grow and I can tell you for a fact that posts on forums that nobody BUT esports viewers actually read do precisely dick to affect it's growth one way or the other.
I don't want to rehash all the same crap from that thread, but his response is pretty disproportionate to the comment that was made. This is like the third or fourth time he's gone on a rage like this. If one can't handle a few dumb comments without blowing their stack, then one really needs to ask themselves if they really should be doing what they're doing. Dealing with internet "haters" just comes with the territory. Husky has probably taken 10x the hate that TB has gotten; yet Husky has always taken it with the greatest of class and humility, and honestly that's one of the things I really respect him for.
And anytime someone brings up how much they "do for esports" it just makes them sound self absorbed; whatever the original intent of the comment was. There are a lot of people who do amazing things for TL and manage to not curse out half a thread, so I'm not sure this is helping....
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well said, but perhaps we should leave it there?
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On April 28 2012 05:09 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive. Yeah, I agree with you. That comment was obnoxious, and if it was a serious objection it could have been phrased more respectfully. But that doesn't excuse this: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 20:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Wouldn't be gaming without a few self-important morons Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Buncha fuckin crybabies in here. "oooh he's being rude, esports community, responsibility blah blah blah". Fuck off. You sit behind your walls of anonymity and think you have the right to judge and not be judged in return? When you decide it's a good idea to claim I'm using my family situation for publicity, you'd better be ready to accept the criticism you're going to face for saying that. If you're going to be a judgmental little parasite, except to be treated like one. You lost the right to be treated like a human-being the moment you decided it was a good idea not to act like one. So yeah, if you don't want to get called a cunt, try not being a cunt. If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To the majority of you who are capable of acting like civilized human-beings, thanks for your support. Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please cry some more, really it's super entertaining. I've handled the situation just fine, told someone exactly what I think of them just like a real grown man does. Over-react my ass. Whiny easily offended little shits have a problem with it, big surprise.
And do drop this "killing esports" shit will you. I do more for esports in a day than you'll do in your lifetime, I'm pretty sure I know how best to make it grow and I can tell you for a fact that posts on forums that nobody BUT esports viewers actually read do precisely dick to affect it's growth one way or the other.
I don't want to rehash all the same crap from that thread, but his response is pretty disproportionate to the comment that was made. This is like the third or fourth time he's gone on a rage like this. If one can't handle a few dumb comments without blowing their stack, then one really needs to ask themselves if they really should be doing what they're doing. Dealing with internet "haters" just comes with the territory. Husky has probably taken 10x the hate that TB has gotten; yet Husky has always taken it with the greatest of class and humility, and honestly that's one of the things I really respect him for. And anytime someone brings up how much they "do for esports" it just makes them sound self absorbed; whatever the original intent of the comment was. There are a lot of people who do amazing things for TL and manage to not curse out half a thread, so I'm not sure this is helping....
on one of the SOTG episodes, incontrol commented how easy it was to flamebait totalbiscuit. seems to be a fairly accurate portrayal. i would think that if you are a community figure (and likely to draw much hate), you would just stay away from forums. totalbiscuit is right that anonymity turns everyone into self-important assholes, but he is the one that decided to read through and engage with them. i have yet to see where that ends well for anyone (other than the ABL, of course).
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On April 28 2012 05:18 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:09 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive. Yeah, I agree with you. That comment was obnoxious, and if it was a serious objection it could have been phrased more respectfully. But that doesn't excuse this: On April 26 2012 20:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Wouldn't be gaming without a few self-important morons On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Buncha fuckin crybabies in here. "oooh he's being rude, esports community, responsibility blah blah blah". Fuck off. You sit behind your walls of anonymity and think you have the right to judge and not be judged in return? When you decide it's a good idea to claim I'm using my family situation for publicity, you'd better be ready to accept the criticism you're going to face for saying that. If you're going to be a judgmental little parasite, except to be treated like one. You lost the right to be treated like a human-being the moment you decided it was a good idea not to act like one. So yeah, if you don't want to get called a cunt, try not being a cunt. If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To the majority of you who are capable of acting like civilized human-beings, thanks for your support. On April 28 2012 00:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please cry some more, really it's super entertaining. I've handled the situation just fine, told someone exactly what I think of them just like a real grown man does. Over-react my ass. Whiny easily offended little shits have a problem with it, big surprise.
And do drop this "killing esports" shit will you. I do more for esports in a day than you'll do in your lifetime, I'm pretty sure I know how best to make it grow and I can tell you for a fact that posts on forums that nobody BUT esports viewers actually read do precisely dick to affect it's growth one way or the other.
I don't want to rehash all the same crap from that thread, but his response is pretty disproportionate to the comment that was made. This is like the third or fourth time he's gone on a rage like this. If one can't handle a few dumb comments without blowing their stack, then one really needs to ask themselves if they really should be doing what they're doing. Dealing with internet "haters" just comes with the territory. Husky has probably taken 10x the hate that TB has gotten; yet Husky has always taken it with the greatest of class and humility, and honestly that's one of the things I really respect him for. And anytime someone brings up how much they "do for esports" it just makes them sound self absorbed; whatever the original intent of the comment was. There are a lot of people who do amazing things for TL and manage to not curse out half a thread, so I'm not sure this is helping.... on one of the SOTG episodes, incontrol commented how easy it was to flamebait totalbiscuit. seems to be a fairly accurate portrayal. i would think that if you are a community figure (and likely to draw much hate), you would just stay away from forums. totalbiscuit is right that anonymity turns everyone into self-important assholes, but he is the one that decided to read through and engage with them. i have yet to see where that ends well for anyone (other than the ABL, of course).
So true. The only ones winning in arguments like that are us sadistic bastards who revel in their misery.
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You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra)
On March 28 2012 11:51 IdrA wrote:
you're being an idiot. please stop it.
Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o
On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways.
He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone.
Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail.
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On April 28 2012 05:38 TheToast wrote:You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra) Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways. He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone. Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail.
My guess is actually that EG is tired of getting hated on as an organization.
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On April 28 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:38 TheToast wrote:You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra) On March 28 2012 11:51 IdrA wrote:
you're being an idiot. please stop it. Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways. He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone. Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail. My guess is actually that EG is tired of getting hated on as an organization.
Are they really that hated though? I mean, I can understand why people are somewhat anti EG on TL but this is TL, are people as against EG on say Reddit? (I refer to the EG vs TL rivalry which has been going on, money vs heart is how alot of forumusers describe it)
Oh and you should know that Idra hasn't changed, he just wants to participate in TL events basically.
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On April 28 2012 05:55 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 05:38 TheToast wrote:You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra) On March 28 2012 11:51 IdrA wrote:
you're being an idiot. please stop it. Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways. He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone. Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail. My guess is actually that EG is tired of getting hated on as an organization. Are they really that hated though? I mean, I can understand why people are somewhat anti EG on TL but this is TL, are people as against EG on say Reddit? (I refer to the EG vs TL rivalry which has been going on, money vs heart is how alot of forumusers describe it) Oh and you should know that Idra hasn't changed, he just wants to participate in TL events basically.
Remember the drama with Puma? That was before HuK. The Orb incident caused them drama with their sponsors, and there were a lot of pointed questions about IdrA's during that whole bit. Add in the drama between IdrA and TB, and IdrA and chill.
Meantime, EG is trying to be a big name in the scene in multiple ways, so yeah, I can see it being a good idea to try to reduce the incoming hatred.
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At least now he can enjoy his time in the USA without being distracted by forum trolls.
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On April 28 2012 05:55 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 05:38 TheToast wrote:You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra) On March 28 2012 11:51 IdrA wrote:
you're being an idiot. please stop it. Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways. He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone. Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail. My guess is actually that EG is tired of getting hated on as an organization. Are they really that hated though? I mean, I can understand why people are somewhat anti EG on TL but this is TL, are people as against EG on say Reddit? (I refer to the EG vs TL rivalry which has been going on, money vs heart is how alot of forumusers describe it) Oh and you should know that Idra hasn't changed, he just wants to participate in TL events basically.
But the rivalry is almost completely fan made, and describing it as "money vs heart" is kind of ridiculous.
I think people feel like they can identify with TL more, since basically everyone in the organization is accessible through these forums, and Liquid'HuK was this especially personable figure in Korea, representing us.
Then he went to EG. His personality didn't change, only peoples perceptions, and I think a lot of people found it harder to identify with HuK without he Liquid' tag, and they blamed EG.
EDIT: of course this is only part of it...
I guess this is sort of off-topic.
In a similar vein, Jinro has some posts that make IdrA look like Sheth.
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On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To all the younglings out there: don't punch people in the face. That's how you end up in prison with a dick in your butt.
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On April 28 2012 05:09 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive. Yeah, I agree with you. That comment was obnoxious, and if it was a serious objection it could have been phrased more respectfully. But that doesn't excuse this: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 20:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Wouldn't be gaming without a few self-important morons Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Buncha fuckin crybabies in here. "oooh he's being rude, esports community, responsibility blah blah blah". Fuck off. You sit behind your walls of anonymity and think you have the right to judge and not be judged in return? When you decide it's a good idea to claim I'm using my family situation for publicity, you'd better be ready to accept the criticism you're going to face for saying that. If you're going to be a judgmental little parasite, except to be treated like one. You lost the right to be treated like a human-being the moment you decided it was a good idea not to act like one. So yeah, if you don't want to get called a cunt, try not being a cunt. If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To the majority of you who are capable of acting like civilized human-beings, thanks for your support. Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please cry some more, really it's super entertaining. I've handled the situation just fine, told someone exactly what I think of them just like a real grown man does. Over-react my ass. Whiny easily offended little shits have a problem with it, big surprise.
And do drop this "killing esports" shit will you. I do more for esports in a day than you'll do in your lifetime, I'm pretty sure I know how best to make it grow and I can tell you for a fact that posts on forums that nobody BUT esports viewers actually read do precisely dick to affect it's growth one way or the other.
I don't want to rehash all the same crap from that thread, but his response is pretty disproportionate to the comment that was made. This is like the third or fourth time he's gone on a rage like this. If one can't handle a few dumb comments without blowing their stack, then one really needs to ask themselves if they really should be doing what they're doing. Dealing with internet "haters" just comes with the territory. Husky has probably taken 10x the hate that TB has gotten; yet Husky has always taken it with the greatest of class and humility, and honestly that's one of the things I really respect him for. And anytime someone brings up how much they "do for esports" it just makes them sound self absorbed; whatever the original intent of the comment was. There are a lot of people who do amazing things for TL and manage to not curse out half a thread, so I'm not sure this is helping....
I was in the middle of all that, and I mean the main reason for responding to him was that I was simply appalled. I cannot BELIEVE that he just.... said that. What the fuck. Regardless of whether or not he was a famous caster, he should have the sense not to say that FFS. Goddamnit. Really pissed me off, honestly.
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On April 28 2012 06:15 Chriscras wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To all the younglings out there: don't punch people in the face. That's how you end up in prison with a dick in your butt.
You could make a DirecTV commercial from that one.
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On April 28 2012 01:25 NrGmonk wrote:
New banling reporting for duty. Expect a lot more hilarious bans from the strategy forums.
User was warned for this post
Jokes~
Congratulations, the more banlings in the strategy forums the better.
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On April 28 2012 06:27 CyDe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:09 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:46 pettter wrote:On April 28 2012 03:22 TheToast wrote:On April 28 2012 03:18 Iyerbeth wrote:On April 28 2012 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 28 2012 03:13 mordek wrote:Woah TB ban:
TotalBiscuit was just temp banned for 1 week by semioldguy.
That account was created on 2010-03-20 18:55:20 and had 2568 posts.
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On April 27 2012 21:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you
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This post and other posts in that thread are not acceptable. If you can't keep things civil, don't post. Take a week off and cool down.
Need to do some looking into, this is a hateful post :\ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332053¤tpage=6#104he gets flamed too easily. And in case you don't want to watch the video, he gets asked a lot about his personal situation so he did a video just address it, describing everything he's overcome in the past few years and at one part is describing depression/joblessness/almost homelessness whilst selling his stuff to support his wife and their kid (his step son) and says something like "and of course there's always trust issues in such a long distance relationship" and someone decided to take that line and say TB was just making e-drama for attention and/or accusing his wife of cheating on him. Scummy thing to say and obviously not what he was saying but unfortunately TB let it get to him - as understandable as it was. Yeah, but if you're a recognizable community figure, when you put stuff out there like that you have be ready to face stupid comments. It's not an excuse for people making stupid comments, but that's just reality. If one can't handle that, then don't put your personal business out on the internet. Simple as that. I agree he shouldn't have responded, but while the other poster was not writing it very aggressively, he was still heavily implying that TB was using his family situation to drive views, which is incredibly offensive. Yeah, I agree with you. That comment was obnoxious, and if it was a serious objection it could have been phrased more respectfully. But that doesn't excuse this: On April 26 2012 20:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Wouldn't be gaming without a few self-important morons On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Buncha fuckin crybabies in here. "oooh he's being rude, esports community, responsibility blah blah blah". Fuck off. You sit behind your walls of anonymity and think you have the right to judge and not be judged in return? When you decide it's a good idea to claim I'm using my family situation for publicity, you'd better be ready to accept the criticism you're going to face for saying that. If you're going to be a judgmental little parasite, except to be treated like one. You lost the right to be treated like a human-being the moment you decided it was a good idea not to act like one. So yeah, if you don't want to get called a cunt, try not being a cunt. If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To the majority of you who are capable of acting like civilized human-beings, thanks for your support. On April 28 2012 00:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please cry some more, really it's super entertaining. I've handled the situation just fine, told someone exactly what I think of them just like a real grown man does. Over-react my ass. Whiny easily offended little shits have a problem with it, big surprise.
And do drop this "killing esports" shit will you. I do more for esports in a day than you'll do in your lifetime, I'm pretty sure I know how best to make it grow and I can tell you for a fact that posts on forums that nobody BUT esports viewers actually read do precisely dick to affect it's growth one way or the other.
I don't want to rehash all the same crap from that thread, but his response is pretty disproportionate to the comment that was made. This is like the third or fourth time he's gone on a rage like this. If one can't handle a few dumb comments without blowing their stack, then one really needs to ask themselves if they really should be doing what they're doing. Dealing with internet "haters" just comes with the territory. Husky has probably taken 10x the hate that TB has gotten; yet Husky has always taken it with the greatest of class and humility, and honestly that's one of the things I really respect him for. And anytime someone brings up how much they "do for esports" it just makes them sound self absorbed; whatever the original intent of the comment was. There are a lot of people who do amazing things for TL and manage to not curse out half a thread, so I'm not sure this is helping.... I was in the middle of all that, and I mean the main reason for responding to him was that I was simply appalled. I cannot BELIEVE that he just.... said that. What the fuck. Regardless of whether or not he was a famous caster, he should have the sense not to say that FFS. Goddamnit. Really pissed me off, honestly.
Eh, he got pissed, lost his temper, and said some stupid shit. It's happened to all of us at some point. The issue is that he's done this repeatedly, he should've learned his lesson by now. Gotta learn to just let shit go.
On April 28 2012 06:15 Chriscras wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 23:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
If you'd said that to me in real life I'd have punched you in the face, just like any other grown man would.
To all the younglings out there: don't punch people in the face. That's how you end up in prison with a dick in your butt.
ha! Good advice.
On April 28 2012 06:03 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:55 Iplaythings wrote:On April 28 2012 05:44 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 05:38 TheToast wrote:You guys notice how nice Idra's been lately? (relative for idra) On March 28 2012 11:51 IdrA wrote:
you're being an idiot. please stop it. Do you see that? He used the "p" word O.o On March 28 2012 09:28 IdrA wrote:On March 28 2012 09:26 skeldark wrote:On March 28 2012 09:25 JJH777 wrote:
I want to know what's going on with Anaheim so bad. A lot of people are hyping it. They hyping it because they get paid for it. hyping != advertise. none of us has any affiliation with mlg, we dont get paid. we hype it cuz its an awesome event. we hyped ipl3 just as hard cuz it was also really good. i dont hype european events because i dont enjoy them and dont think theyre as good in a lot of important ways. He responded here without a single "idiot" or "fuck you". Come to think of it, we haven't even seen Idra banned in months. What's going on?? Considering his performance as of late, I can only conclude one thing: Aliens have kidnapped Idra and replaced him with a clone. Or possibly the BM is what gives Idra his power, and without it he is destined to fail. My guess is actually that EG is tired of getting hated on as an organization. Are they really that hated though? I mean, I can understand why people are somewhat anti EG on TL but this is TL, are people as against EG on say Reddit? (I refer to the EG vs TL rivalry which has been going on, money vs heart is how alot of forumusers describe it) Oh and you should know that Idra hasn't changed, he just wants to participate in TL events basically. Remember the drama with Puma? That was before HuK. The Orb incident caused them drama with their sponsors, and there were a lot of pointed questions about IdrA's during that whole bit. Add in the drama between IdrA and TB, and IdrA and chill. Meantime, EG is trying to be a big name in the scene in multiple ways, so yeah, I can see it being a good idea to try to reduce the incoming hatred.
I don't think so. Idra's bad-boy persona is one of the reasons he's so popular. The arrogant smart-ass attitude is what separates the Grack from everyone else, it's what makes him entertaining. It's the same with MC's merlock costume or TLO's beard: it's what makes them iconic. Without the attitude, Idra is just another SC2 player.
My real theory:
Idra's performance over the last 6 months has been abysmal. He's dropped well below 100 on TLPD's foriegn ELO rank, and hasn't won a single tournament nor even made it to the finals of any major tournament. Somehow, I have to imagine that takes a toll on the confidence of even the BM master himself. As an Idra fan it really kind of sucks to watch. It would be nice to see him tell someone to fuck off, just to let us know the good ol' Idra is still in there.
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^^He told Cruncher to fuck off in their NASL match a couple weeks back. It was also his first series win against a protoss in forever so I guess that's a good sign too.
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