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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
GZ Optical at least. I would have said it earlier, but I was baneed | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7992 Posts
On October 31 2011 15:48 TheToast wrote: This should constitute a perm IMO. Along with using "cuz" and using "i" instead of "I". At the very least, OPs with these violations should be insta-closed. Definitely no excuse for native English speakers. IRL is no different. Discussing politics from anything other than a strictly academic standpoint is a waste of time. Arguing only further entrenches people in their argument, even if you can completely expose the gaping flaws and illogical nature of someone's argument, 99% of the time they will simply entrench themselves further behind their stupid argument and continue to argue with you. One of the things I have learned is that it is often times just best to ignore people when they try to bring up politics, especially at a party or when out at a bar or restaurant. Just a complete waste of time. Unless your trying to hook up, but that's totally different because you will be pretending to agree with whatever the person says anyway... It really depends. The thing is that you only learn from people who have a similar sensibility than yours. The reason I wouldn't agree with a Libertarian is far beyond logic rationality or good arguments: it's a question of perception. If you perceive the world differently, you won't agree on anything no matter how long you discuss. Now, with people who share your sensibility, you can have very constructive discussions and I have learnt and changed a lot from people who had a different political opinion than mine. Usually, though they won't be at the extreme opposite of the political spectrum, that's obvious. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Nice poems by Nyovne. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 31 2011 19:57 Jayjay54 wrote: how is that stuff bothering u/you. is it because it looks too 'gangsta'? i personally type stuff like i say it (but so do i in german). it is kinda (kind of, is this annoying, too?) normal to use short stuff like cuz, u, r, y.... it's just quicker. and it's slang that everybody understands. if somebody talks in meme language or sarcasm it's often a lot harder to understand. and concerning the i/I issue. i hardly ever use caps in a post at all (not even at the beginning of a sentence). so why start with the word 'I'. there's hardly any difference, why would you even care? it doesn't decrease the readability, does it? i mean, i'm not a native english speaker, but i can't get why this is even a topic and a criteria for a ban...get over yourselves. because it makes it a lot more tedious, annoying, and mind-numbing to read. If TL bans you for shit like one word posts theres no reason they shouldn't at least warn you for one letter word replacements. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:48 DystopiaX wrote: because it makes it a lot more tedious, annoying, and mind-numbing to read. If TL bans you for shit like one word posts theres no reason they shouldn't at least warn you for one letter word replacements. sorry i don't get it. how can you compare a one word post to a maybe well constructed post with small substitutions, which where made because it's faster to type? | ||
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FranzP
France270 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:48 DystopiaX wrote: because it makes it a lot more tedious, annoying, and mind-numbing to read. If TL bans you for shit like one word posts theres no reason they shouldn't at least warn you for one letter word replacements. I understand "cuz" "u" and "y" but I'll be damn if I always have my "I"s right. The most irritating one for me is "would of" "should of" it doesn't even sound right. @Jayjay : It's faster in your head. It doesn't take a lot longer to write "you" instead of "u" and it doesn't make the reader feel like you're a 12 year old mindless kid (maybe you are 12 year old in that case please go on). | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ybfM1.png) but unless the sense is unharmed even some 'u's and 'r's don't do too much imo (imo is fine, too  ) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
you and u I and i your and ur are and R because and cuz punctuation at the end of a sentence. Capital letter at the start of a sentence. I am pretty sure that I make tons of grammar mistakes, but those aren't as annoying to read (I think). Still, if we all pay some attention when we use: then and than off and of full and colorful He makes basic conjugations The easy things. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On October 31 2011 22:38 Koshi wrote: I try to make as little spelling mistakes as possible. Everybody should just pay attention to: you and u I and i your and ur are and R because and cuz punctuation at the end of a sentence. Capital letter at the start of a sentence. I am pretty sure that I make tons of grammar mistakes, but those aren't as annoying to read (I think). Still, if we all pay some attention when we use: then and than off and of full and colorful He makes basic conjugations The easy things. I pretty much agree with this, capitalizing the "I" doesn't really bug me either way, but using proper spelling is simple manners. It shows you care enough about what you are posting to do things carefully, if you don't respect your writing enough to make the tiny effort that it takes to write out words, then how can we expected to care or take the ideas seriously? You clearly didn't have time to write out an extra two letters, so your idea is probably a similar half formed abomination. Which is why when someone writes with text abbreviations I usually don't even finish reading their post. That's my reasoning at least ^_^ | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:48 DystopiaX wrote: because it makes it a lot more tedious, annoying, and mind-numbing to read. If TL bans you for shit like one word posts theres no reason they shouldn't at least warn you for one letter word replacements. Using shortforms ('u' etc) makes sense in chat channels, where time is a factor and permanency doesn't exist. Or in games, where you often can't afford the time to write correctly. The fact that shortforms are quicker, though, is a downside on forums, especially TL. Consider how much effort TL staff (and the community) have put into making people THINK about their posts, makeing people take their time to post genuinely useful posts rather than just spam. Shortforms have two marks against them. First they make a post appear thoughtless and hasty, which can be disrespectful. You wouldn't use informal language in a court appearance, any more than you would wear sweatpants to a job interview. I'm not saying that TL is some super-formal place but its not 4chan either, and people show respect by putting a little more effort into their posts. The second problem with shortforms is that beyond just appearing thoughtless a post with chat-slang often IS thoughtless. It's very easy to knock off a simple comment to a thread using shortforms and whatnot. But since you didn't put very much effort into the post, it has much less value. This isn't something I really thought about until just now. I'm prone to short chat-slang filled comments myself sometimes. It's certainly something to think about - if we respect and value TL then we should post in a manner that suits it. The reason we love TL is that it ISN'T 4chan or the Bnet forums or even Reddit, so maybe we shouldn't be posting like we would on those other sites. Hmm. Maybe I should make this into a blog post or something. | ||
Empyrean
17050 Posts
On October 31 2011 22:16 Jayjay54 wrote: i mean, it's annoying as shit when it gets to this point: but unless the sense is unharmed even some 'u's and 'r's don't do too much imo (imo is fine, too )Oh God. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqa9kxGQBa1qzzd3do1_500.png) | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On October 31 2011 19:57 Jayjay54 wrote: how is that stuff bothering u/you. is it because it looks too 'gangsta'? i personally type stuff like i say it (but so do i in german). it is kinda (kind of, is this annoying, too?) normal to use short stuff like cuz, u, r, y.... it's just quicker. and it's slang that everybody understands. if somebody talks in meme language or sarcasm it's often a lot harder to understand. and concerning the i/I issue. i hardly ever use caps in a post at all (not even at the beginning of a sentence). so why start with the word 'I'. there's hardly any difference, why would you even care? it doesn't decrease the readability, does it? i mean, i'm not a native english speaker, but i can't get why this is even a topic and a criteria for a ban...get over yourselves. idk maybe cuz i think that when u post like this it makes u look uneducated and sorta like u put like 12 seconds into a reply to a op that some one prolly spent half a hour writing and than u just poop on the forum with this kinda crap. Now see how much better and less ignorant I look when I type in complete sentences? Granted it took me a whole extra 5, maybe 10 seconds? But see how much better this reads in your mind, how much easier it is to follow my ideas? The difference is night and day. While I don't expect everyone to have perfect grammar and spelling (I for sure don't), I don't think capitalizing the first letters of sentences and spelling out full words is asking too much. It makes it much easier to read and understand posts and it also drastically raises the quality of the forum. On October 31 2011 22:45 GMarshal wrote: I pretty much agree with this, capitalizing the "I" doesn't really bug me either way, but using proper spelling is simple manners. It shows you care enough about what you are posting to do things carefully, if you don't respect your writing enough to make the tiny effort that it takes to write out words, then how can we expected to care or take the ideas seriously? You clearly didn't have time to write out an extra two letters, so your idea is probably a similar half formed abomination. Which is why when someone writes with text abbreviations I usually don't even finish reading their post. That's my reasoning at least ^_^ Yes, this. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:26 TheToast wrote: idk maybe cuz i think that when u post like this it makes u look uneducated and sorta like u put like 12 seconds into a reply to a op that some one prolly spent half a hour writing and than u just poop on the forum with this kinda crap. Now see how much better and less ignorant I look when I type in complete sentences? Granted it took me a whole extra 5, maybe 10 seconds? But see how much better this reads in your mind, how much easier it is to follow my ideas? The difference is night and day. While I don't expect everyone to have perfect grammar and spelling (I for sure don't), I don't think capitalizing the first letters of sentences and spelling out full words is asking too much. It makes it much easier to read and understand posts and it also drastically raises the quality of the forum. Yes, this. hmm. Seems to make sense. I'll try to work on it | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
I don't think "it's shorter" is an excuse, at least not on TL, where you are supposed to put at least some effort into your posts, spelling out "you" isn't going to drain too much of your precious time. | ||
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Sanjuro
Indonesia252 Posts
I will love you FIVE-ever part made me cry. | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:45 Sanjuro wrote: I will love you FIVE-ever part made me cry. that whole | ||
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Pillage
United States804 Posts
*facepalm* I think I may have just lost a little faith in humanity Edit: Spelling - for the observant trolls that I call my fellow TL posters Scroll down and look at their posts to see what happens to a sleep deprived man :S | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
For me it wasn't so much crying as having my eyes actively bleed. Ouch On October 31 2011 23:58 Pillage wrote: *facepalm* I think I may have just lost a little face in humanity I hope you find your face, if you dropped it in that pool of humanity it may have already melted, so I would start fishing for it as soon as possible | ||
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