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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
May 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#6621
Also, he asked us not to be listed when he's banned, we'd love to list his stream but we're going to respect his request.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 06 2011 03:15 GMT
#6622
On May 06 2011 12:12 morph2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:47 Chill wrote:
As I've said before: I PM'd Cruncher to clarify what he meant by "sniped" since it has two meanings. He added an explanation to quell the masses.

I didn't PM Idra because it's evident what he meant by "waste of life".

It's not biased. I like Idra more than Cruncher to be frank. I've met Idra in real life many times and I like him. People are speculating that I've banned him because he says stuff about me on his stream - I don't watch his stream so I can't react to that. Regardless, I'm not the kind of person who would moderate based on what people said behind my back.


seriously mr. chill. are you honestly as somebody who was competing once not empathic enough to understand that idra was obviously a tad upset after cruncher beat him and most likely cheated. you could have simply edited idra's post if it upset you. but goddamit stop banning pros who contribute more to the community and esports than you do by banning them for 100% understandable reactions.
give tl back it's charm man.

and pls dont try telling anyone cruncher showed you that stupid screenshot. he decided to not archive the stream from today for a frickin reason.

I showed empathy by making Idra's nineteenth ban on Teamliquid a 2-day.
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Qurid
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands32 Posts
May 06 2011 03:21 GMT
#6623
On May 06 2011 12:15 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 12:12 morph2k wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:47 Chill wrote:
As I've said before: I PM'd Cruncher to clarify what he meant by "sniped" since it has two meanings. He added an explanation to quell the masses.

I didn't PM Idra because it's evident what he meant by "waste of life".

It's not biased. I like Idra more than Cruncher to be frank. I've met Idra in real life many times and I like him. People are speculating that I've banned him because he says stuff about me on his stream - I don't watch his stream so I can't react to that. Regardless, I'm not the kind of person who would moderate based on what people said behind my back.


seriously mr. chill. are you honestly as somebody who was competing once not empathic enough to understand that idra was obviously a tad upset after cruncher beat him and most likely cheated. you could have simply edited idra's post if it upset you. but goddamit stop banning pros who contribute more to the community and esports than you do by banning them for 100% understandable reactions.
give tl back it's charm man.

and pls dont try telling anyone cruncher showed you that stupid screenshot. he decided to not archive the stream from today for a frickin reason.

I showed empathy by making Idra's nineteenth ban on Teamliquid a 2-day.


Perhaps you should have showed more empathy by not banning him at all for such a thing, you'd almost start thinking your banhammer is ready to ban him whenever he says something, I bet you read his post over and over just to find a reason to ban him.


User was banned for this post.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 03:30:47
May 06 2011 03:25 GMT
#6624
On May 06 2011 12:21 Qurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 12:15 Chill wrote:
On May 06 2011 12:12 morph2k wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:47 Chill wrote:
As I've said before: I PM'd Cruncher to clarify what he meant by "sniped" since it has two meanings. He added an explanation to quell the masses.

I didn't PM Idra because it's evident what he meant by "waste of life".

It's not biased. I like Idra more than Cruncher to be frank. I've met Idra in real life many times and I like him. People are speculating that I've banned him because he says stuff about me on his stream - I don't watch his stream so I can't react to that. Regardless, I'm not the kind of person who would moderate based on what people said behind my back.


seriously mr. chill. are you honestly as somebody who was competing once not empathic enough to understand that idra was obviously a tad upset after cruncher beat him and most likely cheated. you could have simply edited idra's post if it upset you. but goddamit stop banning pros who contribute more to the community and esports than you do by banning them for 100% understandable reactions.
give tl back it's charm man.

and pls dont try telling anyone cruncher showed you that stupid screenshot. he decided to not archive the stream from today for a frickin reason.

I showed empathy by making Idra's nineteenth ban on Teamliquid a 2-day.


Perhaps you should have showed more empathy by not banning him at all for such a thing, you'd almost start thinking your banhammer is ready to ban him whenever he says something, I bet you read his post over and over just to find a reason to ban him.


This is not going to end well.

Idra quite clearly deserved some form of punishment. Most people would get at least a week for that but because he is idra he gets two days.

How is that not fair?

Edit:
On May 06 2011 12:21 Qurid wrote:
...
User was banned for this post.

Huzzah!!!
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Myersmayhem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
May 06 2011 03:25 GMT
#6625
Seriously even if IdrA's ban was all you did your ban just ruined a stream with commentary that 15-20k people were enjoying. thanks for the empathy ='/

User was warned for this post
6 Pool all in works every time 0_o
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 03:27:22
May 06 2011 03:26 GMT
#6626
On May 06 2011 12:21 Qurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 12:15 Chill wrote:
On May 06 2011 12:12 morph2k wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:47 Chill wrote:
As I've said before: I PM'd Cruncher to clarify what he meant by "sniped" since it has two meanings. He added an explanation to quell the masses.

I didn't PM Idra because it's evident what he meant by "waste of life".

It's not biased. I like Idra more than Cruncher to be frank. I've met Idra in real life many times and I like him. People are speculating that I've banned him because he says stuff about me on his stream - I don't watch his stream so I can't react to that. Regardless, I'm not the kind of person who would moderate based on what people said behind my back.


seriously mr. chill. are you honestly as somebody who was competing once not empathic enough to understand that idra was obviously a tad upset after cruncher beat him and most likely cheated. you could have simply edited idra's post if it upset you. but goddamit stop banning pros who contribute more to the community and esports than you do by banning them for 100% understandable reactions.
give tl back it's charm man.

and pls dont try telling anyone cruncher showed you that stupid screenshot. he decided to not archive the stream from today for a frickin reason.

I showed empathy by making Idra's nineteenth ban on Teamliquid a 2-day.


Perhaps you should have showed more empathy by not banning him at all for such a thing, you'd almost start thinking your banhammer is ready to ban him whenever he says something, I bet you read his post over and over just to find a reason to ban him.


are you serious?

im not getting on tl anymore tonight. my brain hurts.

On May 06 2011 12:25 Myersmayhem wrote:
Seriously even if IdrA's ban was all you did your ban just ruined a stream with commentary that 15-20k people were enjoying. thanks for the empathy ='/


idra can still stream and his stream can be displayed on tl but he chooses not to.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44283 Posts
May 06 2011 03:26 GMT
#6627
On May 06 2011 12:21 Qurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 12:15 Chill wrote:
On May 06 2011 12:12 morph2k wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:47 Chill wrote:
As I've said before: I PM'd Cruncher to clarify what he meant by "sniped" since it has two meanings. He added an explanation to quell the masses.

I didn't PM Idra because it's evident what he meant by "waste of life".

It's not biased. I like Idra more than Cruncher to be frank. I've met Idra in real life many times and I like him. People are speculating that I've banned him because he says stuff about me on his stream - I don't watch his stream so I can't react to that. Regardless, I'm not the kind of person who would moderate based on what people said behind my back.


seriously mr. chill. are you honestly as somebody who was competing once not empathic enough to understand that idra was obviously a tad upset after cruncher beat him and most likely cheated. you could have simply edited idra's post if it upset you. but goddamit stop banning pros who contribute more to the community and esports than you do by banning them for 100% understandable reactions.
give tl back it's charm man.

and pls dont try telling anyone cruncher showed you that stupid screenshot. he decided to not archive the stream from today for a frickin reason.

I showed empathy by making Idra's nineteenth ban on Teamliquid a 2-day.


Perhaps you should have showed more empathy by not banning him at all for such a thing, you'd almost start thinking your banhammer is ready to ban him whenever he says something, I bet you read his post over and over just to find a reason to ban him.

Perhaps he shouldn't. He was out of line and someone with Idra's moderation history knows damn well where the line is. He crossed it and as such was banned.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 06 2011 03:27 GMT
#6628
On May 06 2011 12:25 Myersmayhem wrote:
Seriously even if IdrA's ban was all you did your ban just ruined a stream with commentary that 15-20k people were enjoying. thanks for the empathy ='/


On May 06 2011 12:13 Chill wrote:

Actually, his stream isn't shut down, you can still access it directly through Teamliquid, Twitter or Justin.tv.

Actually, we didn't shut down his stream - banned users streams are automatically set to offline, even if they are online.

Translator:3
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
May 06 2011 03:28 GMT
#6629
On May 06 2011 12:25 Myersmayhem wrote:
Seriously even if IdrA's ban was all you did your ban just ruined a stream with commentary that 15-20k people were enjoying. thanks for the empathy ='/
It is Idra himself choosing not to stream. He even requested his stream not showing on the featured list. I can't see how that is any mods fault at all.
really?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 06 2011 03:28 GMT
#6630
On May 06 2011 12:25 Myersmayhem wrote:
Seriously even if IdrA's ban was all you did your ban just ruined a stream with commentary that 15-20k people were enjoying. thanks for the empathy ='/


If you're going to blame someone, blame idra or cruncher, not the TL mods. They are just doing what they are supposed to do.

How can you put so much effort into keeping the foum civil and then just let that fly out the window when someone well known blatantly ignores the rules.

Punish them, but keep it small, which is exactly what Chill did.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11605 Posts
May 06 2011 03:31 GMT
#6631
Wow, this latest ban really brought out the lurkers that supposedly know Team Liquid's "charm." I just have to shake my head at the ragers. It's amusing and sad all at once. I understand it's disappointing, but really? Between LR, Strat Section and random Idra fans it's been an interesting purge on TL.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Myersmayhem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
May 06 2011 03:32 GMT
#6632
I already got warned so i'm afraid to speak my mind on this topic now lol, or i would respond lawl

User was warned for this post
6 Pool all in works every time 0_o
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
May 06 2011 03:34 GMT
#6633
I'd hate to make generalizations, but doesn't it seem like Idra's fans are the most rabid, defensive, and irrational fans on TL? I used to think the hordes of Flash/Jaedong/Bisu fanboys were bad, but I can't recall them being this angry and fanatical.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 06 2011 03:34 GMT
#6634
On May 06 2011 12:32 Myersmayhem wrote:
I already got warned so i'm afraid to speak my mind on this topic now lol, or i would respond lawl


mmm Careful. This is very passive aggressive, pretty damn close to martyring if you ask me.

I'm guessing here but you were probably warned for not reading, and not understanding that idra can still stream.

Your disagreement with the mods won't give you a ban unless you are blatantly ignorant or aggressive. If you have a problem, PM would be best.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 06 2011 03:36 GMT
#6635
On May 06 2011 12:34 wzzit wrote:
I'd hate to make generalizations, but doesn't it seem like Idra's fans are the most rabid, defensive, and irrational fans on TL? I used to think the hordes of Flash/Jaedong/Bisu fanboys were bad, but I can't recall them being this angry and fanatical.

Fans are fans. Its never been any different. IdrA just has a lot of them.
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Myersmayhem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
May 06 2011 03:37 GMT
#6636
No i understood that he can stream but he is not going to now because of the ban i understand this point, and even mentioned it in my previous post that i got warned for.

Regardless of it being IdrA's fault or Chill's the fact is he stopped streaming because of the ban and. I'm sad cause his commentary stream was the best i had seen in a long long time.
6 Pool all in works every time 0_o
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 03:42:27
May 06 2011 03:40 GMT
#6637
On May 06 2011 12:34 wzzit wrote:
I'd hate to make generalizations, but doesn't it seem like Idra's fans are the most rabid, defensive, and irrational fans on TL? I used to think the hordes of Flash/Jaedong/Bisu fanboys were bad, but I can't recall them being this angry and fanatical.


don't generalize me bro. im the #1 fan and im civil! it seems the enrages fans have relatively new accounts so they probably don't care about tl anyway. i definitely want to ask idra this question next stream session: "Do you approve of your aggressive fan's reaction to your 2-day temp ban?"
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 06 2011 03:40 GMT
#6638
On May 06 2011 12:37 Myersmayhem wrote:
No i understood that he can stream but he is not going to now because of the ban i understand this point, and even mentioned it in my previous post that i got warned for.

Regardless of it being IdrA's fault or Chill's the fact is he stopped streaming because of the ban and. I'm sad cause his commentary stream was the best i had seen in a long long time.


Amen to that

Nobody wants this, but unfortunately this is what happens when two pros have a major disagreement and can't be adults about it. Everyone loses.

Let's hope it blows over and idra gets back online soon.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
May 06 2011 03:45 GMT
#6639
On May 06 2011 12:40 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 12:34 wzzit wrote:
I'd hate to make generalizations, but doesn't it seem like Idra's fans are the most rabid, defensive, and irrational fans on TL? I used to think the hordes of Flash/Jaedong/Bisu fanboys were bad, but I can't recall them being this angry and fanatical.


don't generalize me bro. im the #1 fan and im civil! it seems the enrages fans have relatively new accounts so they probably don't care about tl anyway. i definitely want to ask idra this question next stream session: "Do you approve of your aggressive fan's reaction to your 2-day temp ban?"


Haha yeah, of course not all of Idra's fans are bad. But it's amusing to me that people interpret ANY action taken against this guy as some kind of personal attack against THEIR character. I mean, honestly, a 2-day temp ban is a slap on the wrist, but you'd think that TL kicked him out of their tournament based on the intensity of the fan reaction.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
May 06 2011 03:46 GMT
#6640
What's with IdrA fans... its like they got progressively worse. There wasn't this much attention or cry over his 30 day ban for insulting manifesto. speaking of manifesto... where is he.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
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