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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
I am reading all kind of forums, picking up bits and pieces, but not one post about what actually happened : [ | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:13 Seeker wrote: Can someone please give me a clear explanation of exactly what happened and what went down between IdrA and Cruncher? I am reading all kind of forums, picking up bits and pieces, but not one post about what actually happened : [ Basically Idra has been commentating while playing his stream,he was playing ladder while commentating what to do, Idra commented that he would roach zergling allin and Cruncher countered it perfectly, basically Idra accused Cruncher of cheating and well, the rest shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Idra stream is not delayed(Something which he should do articifially if he ever wants to avoid this). | ||
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:31 Myersmayhem wrote: Didn't Lquid Tyler say on Sotg that TL is a place for people to say what they want? Yet IdrA was banned for saying what he wanted por que?????!?!?!?!?!?!? >=/ If I say that you are a douchebag, then that is me saying what I want to say, that does not make it right. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:31 Myersmayhem wrote: Didn't Lquid Tyler say on Sotg that TL is a place for people to say what they want? Yet IdrA was banned for saying what he wanted por que?????!?!?!?!?!?!? >=/ Yea well tbh tyler also went against completely what Hot-Bid said in that Thread.. Obviously you can't just say whatever you want that's not what TL is about. However, considering the circumstances and what Idra is doing for the Community atm i think this ban was very rash on Chill's part and completely unnecessary. Actually Idra was saying to drop the entire thing but then got Tbanned. Deff do not agree with this decision on Chills part, as he PM Cruncher to edit his post why couldn't he do the same for Idra just seems a little bias and maybe somebody (a mod) can clarify: because is it not against TL rules to Troll also? And that's exactly what Cruncher was doing with his original comment..this whole situation i just don't know would love an explanation. | ||
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:44 Myersmayhem wrote: Kipsate it may not make it right but i don't take offence to you speaking your mind. Its freedom of speech something i like being Amurican If we would let everyone speak their mind then this might aswell be the Bnet forums, and we all know how nice those are. Edit: Moonling, Idra already gets preferential treatment due to his seniority status and his contributions to the community, he has 2 pages worth of tempbans, anyone else, anyone pretty much would be permbanned a long time ago. | ||
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
However can you really blame someone for getting upset when they were stream sniped by another professional. Also that is not speculation Cruncher admitted to that | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:48 Myersmayhem wrote: True those are less ideal than this place. However can you really blame someone for getting upset when they were stream sniped by another professional. Also that is not speculation Cruncher admitted to that If you can quote where Cruncher admitted that he cheated then I will concede that point, if not then it is just pure speculation. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:45 Kipsate wrote: If we would let everyone speak their mind then this might aswell be the Bnet forums, and we all know how nice those are. Edit: Moonling, Idra already gets preferential treatment due to his seniority status and his contributions to the community, he has 2 pages worth of tempbans, anyone else, anyone pretty much would be permbanned a long time ago. Yes i realize that believe me. I was talking about the fact that Chill PM'd Cruncher to edit his post to stop the drama, but didn't do the same for Idra. When it was OBVIOUS that cruncher was trolling to provoke (Idra fans) and Idra almost as a publicity stunt of sorts. Yes Idra insulted him, but lets be honest here Cruncher provoked the entire situation regardless of whether or not he cheated. | ||
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
QUOTE]On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote: lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time  cant accept a loss  Idk sure he admits to the sniping part i guess the rest is speculation but idk i was watching the stream it was kinda scary how accurate he was | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:09 rdj107 wrote: Except your tl commandment page specifically mentions getting "verbally medieval" on someone as allowed when the situation warrants it. I would think the heavy implication of stream cheating/sniping to be exactly that kind of situation, especially given how enthused cruncher seems to be about bm'ing idra. Is there any particular reason why flaming someone for stream cheating him isn't justified in this instance? Because there is no actual evidence that Cruncher cheated. Getting an all-in hard countered isn't a proof of anything. It could just have been a coincidence or the result of something the viewers & IdrA didn't catch at the time. Even if there was concrete evidence that he was, calling someone 'a waste of life' shouldn't be acceptable. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:51 Myersmayhem wrote: Umm i just started posting but lemme look. QUOTE]On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote: lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time cant accept a loss Idk sure he admits to the sniping part i guess the rest is speculation but idk i was watching the stream it was kinda scary how accurate he was See?So you don't know, he didn't admit it, he just said that he sniped Idra. All you are doing is speculating. @ moonling, can you quote what Cruncher said to provoke it or something? if he said what was quoted by myers then how is that a basis for calling Cruncher a waste of life? | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
Lets face it, apparently TL is now in the business of supporting cheaters as long as they beat people the mods don't like. "Oh but there isn't complete 100% proof that he was cheating!". Hi, watch the game with the idra audio on and you can pretty much tell that cruncher was cheating. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:55 Kipsate wrote: See?So you don't know, he didn't admit it, he just said that he sniped Idra. All you are doing is speculating. It is all speculation; and we are never going to know regardless Cruncher wouldn't admit it, even if he did so I believe this is something we just need to stop arguing about (whether or not he cheated). The only valid argument in my opinion is the ban, but that is still just an opinion that i'm sure a lot of people disagree with | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:55 Kipsate wrote: See?So you don't know, he didn't admit it, he just said that he sniped Idra. All you are doing is speculating. @ moonling, can you quote what Cruncher said to provoke it or something? if he said what was quoted by myers then how is that a basis for calling Cruncher a waste of life? The Quote is posted above - The thing he saying "Haha i Sniped Idra; his fans are raging" etc something in that context. Regardless i still think Idra would have called him a waste of life, but my point is; is that Cruncher was trolling | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 11:00 Moonling wrote: The Quote is posted above - The thing he saying "Haha i Sniped Idra; his fans are raging" etc something in that context. Regardless i still think Idra would have called him a waste of life, but my point is; is that Cruncher was trolling Your point was that Cruncher was trolling, alright, but where does that leave us?You meant that Cruncher deserved a ban or something?I don't really get it. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On May 06 2011 11:06 Kipsate wrote: Your point was that Cruncher was trolling, alright, but where does that leave us?You meant that Cruncher deserved a ban or something?I don't really get it. Sigh, can you not just re-read what i said- Chil PM'd Cruncher to edit his post to calm the Idra rabid fans; because he was trolling etc. with his post. However, he didnt' PM idra to edit his (which was immature and offensive) it just seems bias, however, cruncher could be seen just as offensive. I'm not a mod tbh i would have given both a warning, or both to edit there post cause they both were causing drama, and being immature. Idk i just see things differently i guess it just seems a little bias. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 06 2011 11:10 Moonling wrote: Sigh, can you not just re-read what i said- Chil PM'd Cruncher to edit his post to calm the Idra rabid fans; because he was trolling etc. with his post. However, he didnt' PM idra to edit his (which was immature and offensive) it just seems bias, however, cruncher could be seen just as offensive. I'm not a mod tbh i would have given both a warning, or both to edit there post cause they both were causing drama, and being immature. Idk i just see things differently i guess it just seems a little bias. In my opinion Cruncher would deserve a warning, or atleast a PM from a mod, which he got, Idra however called him a waste of life, which is much worse then what Cruncher did, the punishment fit the crime here imo. | ||
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