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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18449 Posts
On May 31 2018 18:03 AbouSV wrote: Wow, thanks for showing me the way to this thread, which is a perfect example of what I (and some others) was saying just before. How is that an example of Nazi mods. If anything, it's an example of failure to moderate properly and let the "adults" be complete assholes. That's not to say I think ninazerg was wrong, but what a shitfest of a thread. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On May 30 2018 04:24 BigFan wrote: there was nothing hostile about Seeker's post. He's obviously confused as to why you think it's an overreaction. All the mods that saw the post believed it should be actioned so this wasn't the action of one mod, even though I banned fluidrone and helped ban opisska as well. Both wrote posts that were extremely insensitive. It doesn't matter if you're trying to make a joke that you think is funny if the audience themselves don't think it is. Even more so when the guy who died was not someone related to you in any way, shape or form. Heck, neither of these guys have probably had any kind of contact with TB outside TL and even on TL, doubt it's been anything significant either (sorry but quoting or responding to a post of his on here isn't). Either way, the bottom line is to be nice and respectful to everyone, including those who passed away. Ok, perhaps I misinterpreted, but remember, 2 guys got tempbanned and I am speaking in favour of them, so it'll be easy to misinterpret a tone of voice. Yes, both posts were insensitive, but neither had harmful or malicious intentions. The most you can say is that the intention was to be mischievious, so to tempban them both would be a gross overreaction. But I think that TB had less meaning to me than to people more closely connected to the personality scene, and perhaps one of you met TB before and suchlike, and that obviously played a factor and so in deference whoever feels his death strongly you would most likeley defer to his desire to stronger punishment. I stand by my statements; I don't really see either posts as unwelcome behaviour, but I can respect it if you randomly draw the line there out of respect for the dead. Also that thread was like something you would had seen 15 years ago. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
On May 31 2018 21:57 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Ok, perhaps I misinterpreted, but remember, 2 guys got tempbanned and I am speaking in favour of them, so it'll be easy to misinterpret a tone of voice. Yes, both posts were insensitive, but neither had harmful or malicious intentions. The most you can say is that the intention was to be mischievious, so to tempban them both would be a gross overreaction. But I think that TB had less meaning to me than to people more closely connected to the personality scene, and perhaps one of you met TB before and suchlike, and that obviously played a factor and so in deference whoever feels his death strongly you would most likeley defer to his desire to stronger punishment. I stand by my statements; I don't really see either posts as unwelcome behaviour, but I can respect it if you randomly draw the line there out of respect for the dead. Also that thread was like something you would had seen 15 years ago. There is a time and a place for everything. A thread announcing that TB had passed away should have nothing but condolences and memory related comments. As for fluidrone's post, he PMed me saying that he had no ill intention nor was he trying to make a joke when he posted that. Which means that it was just a poor choice of words/poor timing on his part. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On May 31 2018 18:25 Acrofales wrote: How is that an example of Nazi mods. If anything, it's an example of failure to moderate properly and let the "adults" be complete assholes. That's not to say I think ninazerg was wrong, but what a shitfest of a thread. I always felt there was a chance he was serious. The user Purind had the exact same thought as I did. Just to be 100% sure, I tested it and was able to reproduce exactly what the OP had described. I don't think the comments made by TheFoReveRwaR were appropriate. If I were a moderator, I would've definitely warned him for calling someone a "douchebag troll" right off the bat. A lot more stuff aroused my suspicion, but I said "So, please, send me the saved game, if it happens to actually exist. If I'm making the argument that you're full of shit, then the worst thing that can happen is that I might learn something new, and then say "I apologize, I thought you were making this up because what you were saying was absolutely bonkers." which costs me nothing. I eagerly await the game files." which is basically "I'm 100% willing to admit I'm wrong." Up until the 27th post in the thread, it was about figuring out what exactly this user was trying to accomplish. After that, it turned into another user trying to make the thread about himself. I really wanted to figure out what was going on, but after I requested the saved game, he asked to be nuked. I just have so many questions now. | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On May 31 2018 18:25 Acrofales wrote: How is that an example of Nazi mods. If anything, it's an example of failure to moderate properly and let the "adults" be complete assholes. That's not to say I think ninazerg was wrong, but what a shitfest of a thread. I never said anything about nazi mod. My point was entirely related to the following of your post. On June 01 2018 05:34 ninazerg wrote: I always felt there was a chance he was serious. The user Purind had the exact same thought as I did. Just to be 100% sure, I tested it and was able to reproduce exactly what the OP had described. I don't think the comments made by TheFoReveRwaR were appropriate. If I were a moderator, I would've definitely warned him for calling someone a "douchebag troll" right off the bat. A lot more stuff aroused my suspicion, but I said which is basically "I'm 100% willing to admit I'm wrong." Up until the 27th post in the thread, it was about figuring out what exactly this user was trying to accomplish. After that, it turned into another user trying to make the thread about himself. I really wanted to figure out what was going on, but after I requested the saved game, he asked to be nuked. I just have so many questions now. This could have also been achievable with passive-aggressive half walls of text. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On May 31 2018 18:03 AbouSV wrote: Wow, thanks for showing me the way to this thread, which is a perfect example of what I (and some others) was saying just before. Pretty much every insular online forum gets taken over by "posting superstars" and their cheerleaders eventually, not surprising that it's happening to BW. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
On May 30 2018 04:24 BigFan wrote: there was nothing hostile about Seeker's post. He's obviously confused as to why you think it's an overreaction. All the mods that saw the post believed it should be actioned so this wasn't the action of one mod, even though I banned fluidrone and helped ban opisska as well. Both wrote posts that were extremely insensitive. It doesn't matter if you're trying to make a joke that you think is funny if the audience themselves don't think it is. Even more so when the guy who died was not someone related to you in any way, shape or form. Heck, neither of these guys have probably had any kind of contact with TB outside TL and even on TL, doubt it's been anything significant either (sorry but quoting or responding to a post of his on here isn't). Either way, the bottom line is to be nice and respectful to everyone, including those who passed away. My post might have been insensitive to a boxer-fred type of tl poster or more generally any posters on team liquid that arguably gave totalbiscuit no choice but to leave it, and that is possibly probably who it was aimed at..? i guess i'm "fine" with the "only" temporary ban that resulted from it... However i want to make it crystal clear that it was not a "joke"! i solely reminded people that while celebrated right now, tb had been pushed out of tl quite a wile ago! There was no ill intent towards tb in this post whatsoever, .. one could even, say i was paying my respects to tb by doing such a post? (not unlike oppisska seemingly did his due diligence in the matter .. don't you think mr john bain himself would like to have a joke or two in there?! to pay respect to how funny he could be!) .. i do ...) Whatever you may think of the metaphor i used (a "banned forever" post typed in/for the ABL thread) there was no other way to make it, no other place to make it, no other time to make it, so i did it. Again, that was a line, not a bid .. and certainly not a joke  | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
On May 31 2018 07:42 LegalLord wrote: Yeah, it should be based on salary instead. The higher you’re income, the more of a jerk your allowed to be. Sounds like gifting subscriptions on twit ch  | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
On May 31 2018 11:30 Seeker wrote: He was very upset with how TL treated him when he made that thread. So he requested a perm because he felt that TL was too hostile and unwelcoming. i was so upset and lost the first perma ban i got </3 feelsbadman .. then again it could simply be an alt  .. you can never know?! | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
sc-darkness was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK. That account was created on 2017-08-15 04:42:15 and had 671 posts. Reason: Hey, buddy, you're posting like a cunt would post. Work on that. This dude posts like he's alone in a room having a conversation with the television. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On June 04 2018 05:21 farvacola wrote: This dude posts like he's alone in a room having a conversation with the television. no surprise he got a ban considering the amount of nonsense he's been causing for awhile now; such levels of nonsense usually end up with there bein ggrounds for a ban eventually. | ||
micronesia
United States24801 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
How many pages has it been about the last mass shooting. Quite often I clic on it checking if it hasn't been the case, though -in a sense- it is hopefully just the same debate, not some news. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12014 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8928 Posts
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KwarK
United States44352 Posts
On June 04 2018 13:54 evilfatsh1t wrote: imo the thread has lost its purpose. you cant justify having the thread up just to post news of a shooting, but if you let people discuss gun control it turns into what the thread is now, a massive long regurgitation of the same arguments only for everyone to not come to a conclusion and regurgitate some more. what you say the thread is now was always the purpose, the title is a joke based on the observation that people only debate gun control when the blood of the latest dead children is still warm | ||
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Penev
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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