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I hope my brave report of another euphorbus alt in us pol won't lead to a "no action" just because the mod dealing with it won't know who that was or because i can't spell his nick
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United Kingdom13774 Posts
They will be made aware that he is a PBU upon the report. Of course your report stats depend mostly upon whether or not mods like lenience today...
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Johto4772 Posts
On May 07 2017 03:08 opisska wrote: now is the time to show how the pro team is separate from tl.net. someone with balls ban TLO for unsubstantiated claims of scam Feels like you haven't noticed how this works, we don't ban staff accounts :x
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Damn. I am going to get a no action. Reported Greek fetish boy's first post, and he got banned already for a later one.
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United Kingdom13774 Posts
By the way, is there a rule for removing the report button, or is that just done manually after a history of overreporting? I'm a wee bit curious about our loud-mouthed "tighter moderation" fella.
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Avilo banned, somewhat unfairly I feel, but hey, it's avilo.
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Hyrule18803 Posts
Every mod report has the percentage of actioned & unactioned reports by the reporter. When we see someone reporting a lot of stuff with high unaction we talk about it and decide whether to remove the ability to report or not.
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TLADT24919 Posts
On May 07 2017 08:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Avilo banned, somewhat unfairly I feel, but hey, it's avilo. I think he got what's coming to him. The guy has constantly whined since forever, so not surprising that something finally broke the camel's back.
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On May 07 2017 03:01 Cokefreak wrote:Finally an interesting ban, I'm sure it will spark a protest video from him as well. Show nested quote +avilo was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Seeker.
That account was created on 2007-11-09 03:19:04 and had 3955 posts.
Reason: ...Take a break from TL... You need it and God knows we need it as well. Show nested quote +On May 06 2017 11:53 avilo wrote:On May 06 2017 03:09 Liquid`TLO wrote:On May 05 2017 05:12 avilo wrote: a) So not fixing or addressing mech anti-air, instead going backwards again b) tempest does not need buffs, all air units in the game need nerfs to prevent turtle/stalemate gameplay/mass air
These changes took weeks to come up with? They don't address anything, and they move the game backwards, particularly the tempest change.
And mech anti-air is still left in the dust. Mass raven / swarmhost are still in the game.
Why is there not a single word about swarmhosts being abusive versus mech? It's been since November 2016 when patch 3.8 came out and swarmhosts became ridiculous to play against for anyone opting for mech play.
I love Blizzard games, i love SC2. But it's clear there's no direction from the balance team for a while, or they do not know or understand mech problems enough to propose good solutions to making mech more viable without making it OP.
Considering I have played mech since Wings of Liberty Beta almost exclusively over bio, and been Grandmasters playing around 95% mech games versus every race, i would like to sincerely extend my knowledge and expertise to Blizzard if they are willing to work with someone in the community to get some impactful changes into the game.
Riot Games commonly consults 1 trick ponies in the LoL community for changes to specific champions, such as when they were thinking about buffing the champion Annie they consulted a well known streamer "Annie Bot" to get his opinions and feedback on what would be good and bad changes in terms of buffs and nerfs.
I would love it if Blizzard reached out to me and directly talked with me about some good ideas to implement to help out mech viability, specifically in the department of mech not having any anti-air available.
A lot of people know i am running a tournament soon and it will be on an extension mod. I specifically address one core problem for mech viability, being that mech has no AA. The core design change i did was as follows, as well as a few other quality of life changes that allow mech to be more playable without changing much at all with how units operate - just simply the accessibly of anti-air for mech:
Vikings can now be produced from factories, reactor factories, and starports. Vikings produced from factories come out in assault mode (ground mode). Vikings produced from starports come out in air mode. Vikings by default can no longer transform between ground and air mode (to prevent early game cheeses vs Z).
Armory price reduced to 100/50 from 150/100. Transformation servos upgrade available at the factory tech lab for 50/50, research time 41 seconds. Transformation servos requires an armory to be researched.
Transformation servos allows hellions and vikings to transform between modes freely.
I have already tested this change across many games, and it's proven to give mech a viable AA option and response to air that already exists in the game without doing any unit statistic changes.
The impact of the change means a meching Terran now can react to the opponent's air transition by mass producing vikings from the factories that they already have, essentially giving mech a mass producible anti-air option similar to the goliath.
The change also means that a meching Terran is saving around 400-600 vespene gas and potentially 1-2 minutes of build time on starports. The gas saved from not forcing a mech Terran to have to turtle into 5 starports to counter air changes the flow of the game entirely, allowing a mech Terran to now attack more often as well as go past 5 factories and play a true macro game instead of being limited to not going past 5 factories.
I would highly encourage Blizzard to consult me about this idea, as i mentioned i have already tested it and will be running a tournament using the change. Many of the players that have played mech with this change were amazed that they had a viable AA option and a true anti-air response from the factory to the opponent massing air units.
I've played and streamed this game for 5-6 years now and love the game like everyone here on the forums do, and like i'm sure Blizzard does, but it's clear the changes that are being proposed by blizzard really have little to no impact on helping mech viability, so sincerely again i would hope they will consider consulting with me about changes to help mech viability.
Swarmhosts are also a huge issue right now for mech viability and on the map i made the changes:
Swarmhosts are slower off of creep. Swarmhosts remain fast on creep. Swarmhost hp reduced to 120 from 160. Swarmhosts now have the light tag. Swarmhosts are 6 supply.
These might seem heavy handed but the unit is really making the game unenjoyable for quite a ton of people, and it's limiting strategic diversity all by itself in terms of mech Terran.
Also p.s. the original thor flat 12 damage change is also on the mod i made with Darkblizzard (name of the arcade mapmaker/map designer). Blizzard needs to stop being afraid of strategic diversity and letting mech become playable. The thor flat AA change was a really good change. Ground anti-air should be stronger than air units. Hard to take someone seriously who scams his viewers off money for trips to Austin and Katowice, takes donations for that and then doesn't show up. You don't have the best interest of anyone in mind but yourself. You're a disgrace that honestly should be banned from TL and Twitch. Seems someone is salty they're irrelevant besides back in WOL Beta. xD. a) never scammed anyone in my life my donations were for my stream, and as in the other thread here on TL it was known by everyone donating since the beginning that i would not go unless i met the goal otherwise i would be hosting my own tourney b) on the contrary, players like you that refuse to speak up about balance/game design for years despite having a platform and a huge voice in the community are the ones that only have your own best interest/paycheck in mind. For a long time in this community myself and others have tried to get people on board that SC2 needs more patches and ones that are impactful, not the random -1 adept dmg every 8 months c) i've put hundreds of my own dollars back into a few SC tourneys i made in the past, and am going to again when i run this next tournament using an extension mod that makes impactful balance and design changes that i think a lot of pros, even yourself, will end up finding make the game a lot better and increase strategic diversity. I am going to do that again in the next weeks and again that money i'm putting back into SC2 is my own money from my own stream. lol your post reeks of jealousy. Banned from twitch? Really? Because you don't like me? lol this isn't high school. Worse off, your post is a shining example of why SC2 has fallen so far in viewership. You ad hominem attack someone you personally don't like, and don't even bother reading or commenting on the goddamn post or the balance changes/ideas.So instead of discussing how we can help get Blizzard on the right track to making this game better, you just very arbitrarily take a random shot at me in this thread for no reason or gain lol. Be ashamed of yourself. I'm posting here trying to contribute to ideas that could potentially be implemented into the game to help increase strategic diversity. You're posting here saying "i dont like avilo." Good for you. User was temp banned for this post.
I'm grateful, it seems every thread he posts in recently, he goes on and on about this weird balance mod that he's made. Then you read his changes, and it basically makes all mech stuff super strong, and makes everything else super weak.
There is a place for constructive debate and discourse, but incessant whining isn't necessary.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36709 Posts
For the record, KadaverBB and I discussed it in length and we have decided to unban avilo. He mentioned that he would be posting about his upcoming tournament that he promised to do with his donations so... Let us wait and see.
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On May 07 2017 08:51 Seeker wrote: For the record, KadaverBB and I discussed it in length and we have decided to unban avilo. He mentioned that he would be posting about his upcoming tournament that he promised to do with his donations so... Let us wait and see.
Fair enough. I hope I'm wrong about the guy, I think you all are giving plenty of chances.
Edit: I also see that he went on to just trash TLO on Twitter, so I mean, I guess I wasn't wrong about the guy. I hope he delivers for once on what he says.
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I have a bit mixed feelings for this ban. While he acts like an idiot and is rude on his stream, he is mostly civilised on TL. What he says makes no sense, and he is in general really annoying, but he is trying (really hard) to argue his point in a coherent way. Which doesn't go for everyone else.
The problem, as I see it, is that he simply posts too much about his stupid ideas, creating endless arguments, which is elevated by everyone disliking him due to mainly his stream behaviour.
Maybe a solution is to do like politics, and contain it in one thread. He seems to start new threads regularly, all with the same agenda. How about we make a "the role of mech in SC2" thread, or use one of the existing ones, and refer all mech discussion to that? Those that don't want to hear about avilos latest thoughts and insight can stay out of the thread.
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Germany25643 Posts
It wasn't a great ban to begin with eventhough I completely understand Seeker wanting to ban him
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36709 Posts
On May 07 2017 09:24 Cascade wrote: I have a bit mixed feelings for this ban. While he acts like an idiot and is rude on his stream, he is mostly civilised on TL. What he says makes no sense, and he is in general really annoying, but he is trying (really hard) to argue his point in a coherent way. Which doesn't go for everyone else.
The problem, as I see it, is that he simply posts too much about his stupid ideas, creating endless arguments, which is elevated by everyone disliking him due to mainly his stream behaviour.
Maybe a solution is to do like politics, and contain it in one thread. He seems to start new threads regularly, all with the same agenda. How about we make a "the role of mech in SC2" thread, or use one of the existing ones, and refer all mech discussion to that? Those that don't want to hear about avilos latest thoughts and insight can stay out of the thread. The issue is not how often avilo posts. The issue is HOW he posts. There is a difference between whining and constructive criticism and avilo cannot differentiate between the two. There is also a difference between being a contributing community member who is civil and respectful vs. a guy who just straight up says whatever is on his mind and couldn't care less how others feel. Once again, avilo cannot differentiate between the two...
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On May 07 2017 09:36 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2017 09:24 Cascade wrote: I have a bit mixed feelings for this ban. While he acts like an idiot and is rude on his stream, he is mostly civilised on TL. What he says makes no sense, and he is in general really annoying, but he is trying (really hard) to argue his point in a coherent way. Which doesn't go for everyone else.
The problem, as I see it, is that he simply posts too much about his stupid ideas, creating endless arguments, which is elevated by everyone disliking him due to mainly his stream behaviour.
Maybe a solution is to do like politics, and contain it in one thread. He seems to start new threads regularly, all with the same agenda. How about we make a "the role of mech in SC2" thread, or use one of the existing ones, and refer all mech discussion to that? Those that don't want to hear about avilos latest thoughts and insight can stay out of the thread. The issue is not how often avilo posts. The issue is HOW he posts. There is a difference between whining and constructive criticism and avilo cannot differentiate between the two. There is also a difference between being a contributing community member who is civil and respectful vs. a guy who just straight up says whatever is on his mind and couldn't care less how others feel. Once again, avilo cannot differentiate between the two... I think he is doing a decent job at arguing his point in a sensible way, seeing how the point doesn't make any sense to start with. I feel it's more than just "adepts OP!" that we see in other threads that go unactioned. Yes, he thinks things are OP and UP, and he really should've gotten the memo by now that most don't want turtle mech anyway, but he does try to argue for why he thinks that is the case, which makes it not only whining imo. Actually, it is quite literally constructive criticism as he keeps suggesting changes. More so than many other posters that complain and stay unbanned I might say.
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Avilo's biggest problem is that he doesn't know when to stop being his on-stream persona (assuming it is a persona; I don't want to think about what if that's how he is in real life). Putting on a show for your stream is one thing, but when you want to be taken seriously you have to stop thinking about the game from your deluded standpoint.
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He's sure to get another dozen warnings for balance whining before the end of the year.
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Avilo is a scummy immitation of a human being that crawls on the metaphorical floor of existence, flinging shit at anyone who might pose any threat to his pathetic used-to-be-life. All he posts is: a) things that are wrong to the point of being lies told with straight face b) opinions as facts c) insults and accusations thrown at actual good players and progamers whenever he feels like it will give his grueling persona any attention he could power his awful attempt at entertainment that the cesspool of his twitch channel is with.
The fact that there are people ready to defend him in those train wrecks known as Community Feedback threads just proves in how awful condition the General subforum of SC2 section is.
User was warned for this post
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ok i have been a fan of the legend that is CombatEX from the 1st hour the fact that he is still banned here is getting absolutely ridiculous recently he has released a video that you absolutely need to watch: www.youtube.comso despite all you haters he managed to become a successful programmer for blackberry!! you better admit your mistake and unban him right now but probably not gonna happen since TL mods have always been the whiniest bitches on this fcking planet... #ratzstayratz
Oh the memories!
Edit: thread
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On May 07 2017 16:54 kerpal wrote:Show nested quote +ok i have been a fan of the legend that is CombatEX from the 1st hour the fact that he is still banned here is getting absolutely ridiculous recently he has released a video that you absolutely need to watch: www.youtube.comso despite all you haters he managed to become a successful programmer for blackberry!! you better admit your mistake and unban him right now but probably not gonna happen since TL mods have always been the whiniest bitches on this fcking planet... #ratzstayratz Oh the memories! Edit: thread You can't be banned if you have a job? I don't understand the argument here... Can someone step me through the thought process please?
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