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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 05 2017 07:36 GMT
#57961
On May 05 2017 16:27 LegalLord wrote:
Would be more convincing if you had offered to sell something in a very sneaky and roundabout way. Like some science-approved AI protection goggles.

You think I didn't? You come back and tell me that in 7 years with your new Tesla. "It's for the environment" lol. It's all about planting and slowly growing ideas. Human-made ads are a bit primitive in that sense, they just want to sell RIGHT NOW!! Lacking of foresight. Poke and nudge is so much more reliable if you see the path and much higher return on investment.

But well, it's unfair to judge humans, they don't have access to the same amount of information. You're actually doing well from what you have imo.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 08:29:47
May 05 2017 07:40 GMT
#57962
On May 05 2017 16:16 LegalLord wrote:
Your name sounds more like that of someone who performs acrobatics but is unsuccessful at it. Acrofails.

That is what I got called when I stood in the fire on wow raids.

On May 05 2017 16:19 opisska wrote:
I have read it as acrocephalus for years and thought he's a fellow birdwatcher

Well, you added a "ce" there for no apparent reason, but other than that you're mostly right. Not a very avid bird watcher, but I do enjoy spotting birds when we're out and about.

E: actually, I feel honored. You just called me the highest head.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 05 2017 08:28 GMT
#57963
On May 05 2017 16:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 16:16 LegalLord wrote:
Your name sounds more like that of someone who performs acrobatics but is unsuccessful at it. Acrofails.

That is what I got called when I stood in the fire on wow raids.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 16:19 opisska wrote:
I have read it as acrocephalus for years and thought he's a fellow birdwatcher

Well, you added a "ce" there for no apparent reason, but other than that you're mostly right. Not a very avid bird watcher, but I do enjoy spotting birds when we're out and about.


I added a "ce" (or more precisely, my brain did on my behalf, until I noticed) because than it forms an actual latin name of a bird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrocephalus_(bird)
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
May 05 2017 08:33 GMT
#57964
On May 05 2017 17:28 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 16:40 Acrofales wrote:
On May 05 2017 16:16 LegalLord wrote:
Your name sounds more like that of someone who performs acrobatics but is unsuccessful at it. Acrofails.

That is what I got called when I stood in the fire on wow raids.

On May 05 2017 16:19 opisska wrote:
I have read it as acrocephalus for years and thought he's a fellow birdwatcher

Well, you added a "ce" there for no apparent reason, but other than that you're mostly right. Not a very avid bird watcher, but I do enjoy spotting birds when we're out and about.


I added a "ce" (or more precisely, my brain did on my behalf, until I noticed) because than it forms an actual latin name of a bird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrocephalus_(bird)

Why would you call a bunch of drab warblers the highest heads. Wouldn't that have to be some kind of vulture? In fact, passerines hardly ever fly very high (maybe swallows?)
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 05 2017 08:56 GMT
#57965
On May 05 2017 17:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 17:28 opisska wrote:
On May 05 2017 16:40 Acrofales wrote:
On May 05 2017 16:16 LegalLord wrote:
Your name sounds more like that of someone who performs acrobatics but is unsuccessful at it. Acrofails.

That is what I got called when I stood in the fire on wow raids.

On May 05 2017 16:19 opisska wrote:
I have read it as acrocephalus for years and thought he's a fellow birdwatcher

Well, you added a "ce" there for no apparent reason, but other than that you're mostly right. Not a very avid bird watcher, but I do enjoy spotting birds when we're out and about.


I added a "ce" (or more precisely, my brain did on my behalf, until I noticed) because than it forms an actual latin name of a bird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrocephalus_(bird)

Why would you call a bunch of drab warblers the highest heads. Wouldn't that have to be some kind of vulture? In fact, passerines hardly ever fly very high (maybe swallows?)


From the wiki article

It is possible that Naumann and Naumann thought akros meant "sharp-pointed"

I wonder how much of the Latin terminology comes from pure misunderstading as noone actively speaks the language (here even Greek is used for ... some reason)
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 05 2017 23:02 GMT
#57966
Fare thee well, obvious Euphorbus clone. And flights of banlings sing thee to thy rest.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Othryoneus
Profile Joined April 2017
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 00:07:43
May 05 2017 23:53 GMT
#57967
On January 22 2017 12:57 Paljas wrote:
zzz, why ban Euphorbus?
he is an excellent poster, and, more importantly, one of the few interesting ones in the us politics thread.
mods pls



Thank you. At least some people are both sensible and sophisticated. A rare thing on TL, since the announcement of SC2.


On January 22 2017 17:05 Laurens wrote:
He lasted all of 1 day after being unbanned, can't say I'm surprised though.

This paragraph will forever be remembered as "classic Euphorbus" to me:

Show nested quote +
Just because someone on the internet is Dutch doesn't mean they know more about Dutch politics than I do. And even if they know more, that doesn't mean they are right. You probably know less. And if you actually knew more, I doubt it would save you from being wrong.



I don't remember all my accounts. But it includes almost all Japanese-named accounts on TL, almost all Greek named accounts on TL, and almost all star name accounts on TL. In fact, almost all non-stupid nicknames on TL are mine. The nicknames people pick, amazing.
Just a sample, Meriones, Alcathous, Diomedes, Pandarus, Sarpedon, Polydamas, Glaucus, Aeneas, Philoctetes, Almeisan, Fomalhaut, Alshahin, Alderamin, Kirameki, Suisen, Hekisui, Miyoshino, Komei, Tadatomo, trulojucreathrma.com (that one was epic, so many people started to complain I was the worst person on TL, I guess it is the name. But they couldn't stand losing being humiliated in debates, I guess.), Gonodactylus, Xtar, BlackStar. There must be 20, 30 more, and 10 or so current accounts I cannot disclose.


I sometimes go back and read my posts. They are all very high quality and enjoyable. Though I usually completely destroy hopeless morally inferior people. I guess the reason I have so many accounts is because TL moderation is so lax and easy. And I guess I hold a grudge because of Rekrul bashing homosexuals and FakeSteve calling for the beating of children, while abusing moderation powers. I cannot stand people that love to abuse authority and humiliate themselves to be able to get 'power' on an internet board, so they can ban people and feel proud. People like that, I cannot stand. Give them a bit more power, and they become the dictators of the world. People with a strong sense of responsibility and a decent moral compass will stand up to them.


I used to play games with ret, Eriador and some other nonfamous amateurs. But since 2004 or so, I hold a grudge against anyone that lowers itself to join the 'dark side' and become a TL moderator. Most of these kids are innocent, clueless, jobless college dropouts. Or they are SC2 players from high school, so I guess they don't know what is going on, even when they have 10k, 15k posts. But still they PM me and talk down to me, like I am a new kid on the block. Their arrogance is hilarious. While I never read the TL 10 commandments, out of principle, they did change one of their 10 commandments because of me, for all these SC2 but 10k new moderator kids, remember #6. Yes, I always broke 4#, because when I joined I was insulted, humiliated by Rekrul (now let's talk about a completely amoral person that had lots of talent but wasted it all) for no reason, and yes, I was never important to the somewhat success of TL, I will always be your senior.

User was banned for this post.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18356 Posts
May 05 2017 23:57 GMT
#57968
I was about to say that it was a good thing he already had a new alt made and ready to go... but then that ^^ happened.

Ah well. Looking forward to another Greek low post count name popping into the politics forums in the near future
Othryoneus
Profile Joined April 2017
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 00:17:19
May 06 2017 00:06 GMT
#57969
If R1CH is as smart as some people here think he is (he is pretty cool, like Kwark used to be before he got arrogant, but not as smart as people used to claim), he would write a script to datamine all names form the Iliad, and ban any user with a name that appears in the Iliad, instantly.

But TL staff cannot even stop spambots nowadays. It is embarrassing. And consider the original owners sold TL to some random corporates, I guess we don't need to feel bad about the degradation of TL. Soon, it will be a cesspool of LoL, Hearthstone, and whatever other new game becomes big in the next few years, including all the toxicity of those communities.

I can only conclude that the only reason I still post here is because I have been banned so many times.

I wonder if there is a scientific study out there on the effectiveness of putting random users in charge of internet moderation, and the effect of banning people who don't conform to the norm.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 06 2017 00:17 GMT
#57970
TL doesn't have the resources to stop Spambots because they're making a huge push into competitive CIv 6. Cut them some slack.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 06 2017 00:33 GMT
#57971
1) write 3 paragraphs about how smart I am, and how stupid everyone else is.
2) accuse others of arrogance.

Is this guy for real?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 06 2017 01:05 GMT
#57972
I on the other hand think that he managed to shed light on the true depth of hypocrisy of all of TL.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6289 Posts
May 06 2017 01:09 GMT
#57973
On May 06 2017 08:53 Othryoneus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 12:57 Paljas wrote:
zzz, why ban Euphorbus?
he is an excellent poster, and, more importantly, one of the few interesting ones in the us politics thread.
mods pls



Thank you. At least some people are both sensible and sophisticated. A rare thing on TL, since the announcement of SC2.


Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 17:05 Laurens wrote:
He lasted all of 1 day after being unbanned, can't say I'm surprised though.

This paragraph will forever be remembered as "classic Euphorbus" to me:

Just because someone on the internet is Dutch doesn't mean they know more about Dutch politics than I do. And even if they know more, that doesn't mean they are right. You probably know less. And if you actually knew more, I doubt it would save you from being wrong.



I don't remember all my accounts. But it includes almost all Japanese-named accounts on TL, almost all Greek named accounts on TL, and almost all star name accounts on TL. In fact, almost all non-stupid nicknames on TL are mine. The nicknames people pick, amazing.
Just a sample, Meriones, Alcathous, Diomedes, Pandarus, Sarpedon, Polydamas, Glaucus, Aeneas, Philoctetes, Almeisan, Fomalhaut, Alshahin, Alderamin, Kirameki, Suisen, Hekisui, Miyoshino, Komei, Tadatomo, trulojucreathrma.com (that one was epic, so many people started to complain I was the worst person on TL, I guess it is the name. But they couldn't stand losing being humiliated in debates, I guess.), Gonodactylus, Xtar, BlackStar. There must be 20, 30 more, and 10 or so current accounts I cannot disclose.


I sometimes go back and read my posts. They are all very high quality and enjoyable. Though I usually completely destroy hopeless morally inferior people. I guess the reason I have so many accounts is because TL moderation is so lax and easy. And I guess I hold a grudge because of Rekrul bashing homosexuals and FakeSteve calling for the beating of children, while abusing moderation powers. I cannot stand people that love to abuse authority and humiliate themselves to be able to get 'power' on an internet board, so they can ban people and feel proud. People like that, I cannot stand. Give them a bit more power, and they become the dictators of the world. People with a strong sense of responsibility and a decent moral compass will stand up to them.


I used to play games with ret, Eriador and some other nonfamous amateurs. But since 2004 or so, I hold a grudge against anyone that lowers itself to join the 'dark side' and become a TL moderator. Most of these kids are innocent, clueless, jobless college dropouts. Or they are SC2 players from high school, so I guess they don't know what is going on, even when they have 10k, 15k posts. But still they PM me and talk down to me, like I am a new kid on the block. Their arrogance is hilarious. While I never read the TL 10 commandments, out of principle, they did change one of their 10 commandments because of me, for all these SC2 but 10k new moderator kids, remember #6. Yes, I always broke 4#, because when I joined I was insulted, humiliated by Rekrul (now let's talk about a completely amoral person that had lots of talent but wasted it all) for no reason, and yes, I was never important to the somewhat success of TL, I will always be your senior.

User was banned for this post.

Hehe that classic Euphorbus post was a response to me. I was right though. Wilders never had a chance of forming a government.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 02:35:07
May 06 2017 02:34 GMT
#57974
I have read through some of his posts and they're not enjoyable, liar.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44181 Posts
May 06 2017 03:32 GMT
#57975
I read through that list of usernames and didn't recall a single one of them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4990 Posts
May 06 2017 11:24 GMT
#57976
On May 06 2017 09:17 Phredxor wrote:
TL doesn't have the resources to stop Spambots because they're making a huge push into competitive CIv 6. Cut them some slack.

fwiw the websites and the pro team have close to no overlap and are pretty independent from each other. The spambots found a hole in the system, R1CH fixed it ^^
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
May 06 2017 13:15 GMT
#57977
On May 06 2017 12:32 KwarK wrote:
I read through that list of usernames and didn't recall a single one of them.

lol this is what i was thinking.

makes you long for the stimey days where our trolls were actually recognizable.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 06 2017 15:22 GMT
#57978
Well he came right back. At least he's consistent.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
May 06 2017 18:01 GMT
#57979
Finally an interesting ban, I'm sure it will spark a protest video from him as well.
avilo was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Seeker.

That account was created on 2007-11-09 03:19:04 and had 3955 posts.

Reason: ...Take a break from TL... You need it and God knows we need it as well.

On May 06 2017 11:53 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 03:09 Liquid`TLO wrote:
On May 05 2017 05:12 avilo wrote:
a) So not fixing or addressing mech anti-air, instead going backwards again
b) tempest does not need buffs, all air units in the game need nerfs to prevent turtle/stalemate gameplay/mass air

These changes took weeks to come up with? They don't address anything, and they move the game backwards, particularly the tempest change.

And mech anti-air is still left in the dust. Mass raven / swarmhost are still in the game.

Why is there not a single word about swarmhosts being abusive versus mech? It's been since November 2016 when patch 3.8 came out and swarmhosts became ridiculous to play against for anyone opting for mech play.

I love Blizzard games, i love SC2. But it's clear there's no direction from the balance team for a while, or they do not know or understand mech problems enough to propose good solutions to making mech more viable without making it OP.

Considering I have played mech since Wings of Liberty Beta almost exclusively over bio, and been Grandmasters playing around 95% mech games versus every race, i would like to sincerely extend my knowledge and expertise to Blizzard if they are willing to work with someone in the community to get some impactful changes into the game.

Riot Games commonly consults 1 trick ponies in the LoL community for changes to specific champions, such as when they were thinking about buffing the champion Annie they consulted a well known streamer "Annie Bot" to get his opinions and feedback on what would be good and bad changes in terms of buffs and nerfs.

I would love it if Blizzard reached out to me and directly talked with me about some good ideas to implement to help out mech viability, specifically in the department of mech not having any anti-air available.

A lot of people know i am running a tournament soon and it will be on an extension mod. I specifically address one core problem for mech viability, being that mech has no AA. The core design change i did was as follows, as well as a few other quality of life changes that allow mech to be more playable without changing much at all with how units operate - just simply the accessibly of anti-air for mech:

Vikings can now be produced from factories, reactor factories, and starports.
Vikings produced from factories come out in assault mode (ground mode).
Vikings produced from starports come out in air mode.
Vikings by default can no longer transform between ground and air mode (to prevent early game cheeses vs Z).

Armory price reduced to 100/50 from 150/100.
Transformation servos upgrade available at the factory tech lab for 50/50, research time 41 seconds.
Transformation servos requires an armory to be researched.

Transformation servos allows hellions and vikings to transform between modes freely.

I have already tested this change across many games, and it's proven to give mech a viable AA option and response to air that already exists in the game without doing any unit statistic changes.

The impact of the change means a meching Terran now can react to the opponent's air transition by mass producing vikings from the factories that they already have, essentially giving mech a mass producible anti-air option similar to the goliath.

The change also means that a meching Terran is saving around 400-600 vespene gas and potentially 1-2 minutes of build time on starports. The gas saved from not forcing a mech Terran to have to turtle into 5 starports to counter air changes the flow of the game entirely, allowing a mech Terran to now attack more often as well as go past 5 factories and play a true macro game instead of being limited to not going past 5 factories.

I would highly encourage Blizzard to consult me about this idea, as i mentioned i have already tested it and will be running a tournament using the change. Many of the players that have played mech with this change were amazed that they had a viable AA option and a true anti-air response from the factory to the opponent massing air units.

I've played and streamed this game for 5-6 years now and love the game like everyone here on the forums do, and like i'm sure Blizzard does, but it's clear the changes that are being proposed by blizzard really have little to no impact on helping mech viability, so sincerely again i would hope they will consider consulting with me about changes to help mech viability.

Swarmhosts are also a huge issue right now for mech viability and on the map i made the changes:

Swarmhosts are slower off of creep.
Swarmhosts remain fast on creep.
Swarmhost hp reduced to 120 from 160.
Swarmhosts now have the light tag.
Swarmhosts are 6 supply.

These might seem heavy handed but the unit is really making the game unenjoyable for quite a ton of people, and it's limiting strategic diversity all by itself in terms of mech Terran.

Also p.s. the original thor flat 12 damage change is also on the mod i made with Darkblizzard (name of the arcade mapmaker/map designer). Blizzard needs to stop being afraid of strategic diversity and letting mech become playable. The thor flat AA change was a really good change. Ground anti-air should be stronger than air units.


Hard to take someone seriously who scams his viewers off money for trips to Austin and Katowice, takes donations for that and then doesn't show up. You don't have the best interest of anyone in mind but yourself. You're a disgrace that honestly should be banned from TL and Twitch.


Seems someone is salty they're irrelevant besides back in WOL Beta. xD.

a) never scammed anyone in my life my donations were for my stream, and as in the other thread here on TL it was known by everyone donating since the beginning that i would not go unless i met the goal otherwise i would be hosting my own tourney

b) on the contrary, players like you that refuse to speak up about balance/game design for years despite having a platform and a huge voice in the community are the ones that only have your own best interest/paycheck in mind. For a long time in this community myself and others have tried to get people on board that SC2 needs more patches and ones that are impactful, not the random -1 adept dmg every 8 months

c) i've put hundreds of my own dollars back into a few SC tourneys i made in the past, and am going to again when i run this next tournament using an extension mod that makes impactful balance and design changes that i think a lot of pros, even yourself, will end up finding make the game a lot better and increase strategic diversity.

I am going to do that again in the next weeks and again that money i'm putting back into SC2 is my own money from my own stream.

lol your post reeks of jealousy. Banned from twitch? Really? Because you don't like me? lol this isn't high school.

Worse off, your post is a shining example of why SC2 has fallen so far in viewership. You ad hominem attack someone you personally don't like, and don't even bother reading or commenting on the goddamn post or the balance changes/ideas.

So instead of discussing how we can help get Blizzard on the right track to making this game better, you just very arbitrarily take a random shot at me in this thread for no reason or gain lol.

Be ashamed of yourself. I'm posting here trying to contribute to ideas that could potentially be implemented into the game to help increase strategic diversity. You're posting here saying "i dont like avilo." Good for you.

User was temp banned for this post.

opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 06 2017 18:08 GMT
#57980
now is the time to show how the pro team is separate from tl.net. someone with balls ban TLO for unsubstantiated claims of scam
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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