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On February 03 2011 15:04 Licmyobelisk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2011 14:57 Saechiis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 12:21 beetlelisk wrote:This is from the Idratosis IMBALANCED thread On February 03 2011 10:41 Seraphic wrote:
I have to post on how stupid all of this is. two guys with the most biased opinions out there.
Protoss has nothing aside from the Colossus, Protoss Air units are just paper planes half of the time. You take out Colossus and Protoss basically have no go to unit in SC2, maybe Immortals. Void Rays get countered easy with early scout, Carriers now have limited use, Mothership is pointless. Maybe Blink Stalkers, that is about it, but they die without good control. and it screams "I haven't watched the video at all". Because IdrA said exactly that strong Colossus to balance the weakness of other P units may be a problem of Protoss design as a race. For me this is the same as chmming in a thread without reading the OP. And if someone haven't noticed how much work was put in so their show doesn't sound as pointless QQ then get a fucking clue oblivious bitch, rewatch and focus on their eyes. They clearly had some sort of a list or prewritten lines to say and are looking a lot at it while they talk, their quesntions and answers aren't made on the fly. Hey, I found this in that thread too! Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 13:12 beetlelisk wrote:On February 03 2011 10:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
players get flamed for balance complaints because they all whine subjectively about the race they play themselves, therefor it's hard to take it serious. maybe if artosis and idra started saying zerg is overpowered that would be cool. There is a huge difference between telling someone why is he wrong and basically telling someone it's hard not ridicule him because of bias and I don't mean their bias, I mean your views about them. You completely disregarded their points, you completely disregarded the work that was put into this video. - The work that can be heard by the way they form their sentences,
- put stress on their points and preemptively try to disarm accusations of whine,
- elaborate on and completely deplete all of the arguments for their views
- but also the work that can be literally seen by noticing on what they are looking at - they gave me incredibly strong impression of having notes, some sort of a "what to say" list and they look at it a lot to, by what they are saying, give the best impression of proffesionalism they can.
You could tell us about Ret's results of his experiments with Infestors in PvZ, Ret's ideas and theory about how Infestors should be used AS YOU ARE HIS MANAGER AND YOU ARE THE NUMBER ONE PERSON RESPOSNIBLE FOR EXPOSING YOUR PLAYERS and your sponsor because of that to fans and community as a whole. Instead you gave a green light to every single retarded faggot who wants to derail this thread, you directly caused the moderation to have unnecessary work to do here - and SC2 forums aren't the prime example of users following the rules to say at least. You are promoting the way of posting that is against the rules of the site you own and you are putting down people who want to contribute for free. After showing how you handle the LR threads and not only them, you did this? I am extremely dissapointed in you as an admin. You should be ashamed of yourself Nazgul. lol Idk but it's impossible that Nazgul didn't watch the video and just posted like that. Beetlelisk was just being too aggressive in defending IdrA and Artosis.
Reason: Don't call people 'oblivious bitches' please.
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i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours
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On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours If the mods put a warning in big red font saying, "1 week bans will be handed out like candy" then everyone would be disciplined and voila, a productive thread. 
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On February 03 2011 20:13 Kamais_ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours If the mods put a warning in big red font saying, "1 week bans will be handed out like candy" then everyone would be disciplined and voila, a productive thread.
It would be nice if people worked like that...
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On February 03 2011 20:13 Kamais_ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours If the mods put a warning in big red font saying, "1 week bans will be handed out like candy" then everyone would be disciplined and voila, a productive thread.
sure works in the LR threads! oh wait
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On February 03 2011 22:39 gods_basement wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 20:13 Kamais_ookin wrote:On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours If the mods put a warning in big red font saying, "1 week bans will be handed out like candy" then everyone would be disciplined and voila, a productive thread. sure works in the LR threads! oh wait
And don't forget the picture thread!
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Seems like Artosis creates troll threads better than tdot 
I do enjoy his videos though.
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On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours
I agree. It is really a shame that the thread had to be locked. If you read carefully: there are quite a handfull of intelligent responses in that thread but again drown in meaningless spam and bullshit.
The video itself shows something very interesting. It seems that it is possible to have an intelligent discussion about balance. They walk the fine line of a balance discussion mixed with strategic insights. And they provide alot of backround to the discussion too, so he video helps to understand the game itself better which is one of the main purposes of this site IMO.
The last Artosis thread that was closed (as far as I remember), was a map balance article. Artosis got flamed and trolled so terribly that he had lost his temper and got tempbanned. The irony is that the majority of the community and players now repeat almost the exact same things he brought up before months.
maybe this thread shows that its time for TL to have restricted threads/subforums. Maybe we as fans/readers/posters have to be much more humble and be excited about top analysts and players giving their insights. But I kinda have the feeling that the forum structure or format is possibly outdated.
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Calgary25991 Posts
On February 04 2011 04:38 clickrush wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours I agree. It is really a shame that the thread had to be locked. If you read carefully: there are quite a handfull of intelligent responses in that thread but again drown in meaningless spam and bullshit. The video itself shows something very interesting. It seems that it is possible to have an intelligent discussion about balance. They walk the fine line of a balance discussion mixed with strategic insights. And they provide alot of backround to the discussion too, so he video helps to understand the game itself better which is one of the main purposes of this site IMO. The last Artosis thread that was closed (as far as I remember), was a map balance article. Artosis got flamed and trolled so terribly that he had lost his temper and got tempbanned. The irony is that the majority of the community and players now repeat almost the exact same things he brought up before months. maybe this thread shows that its time for TL to have restricted threads/subforums. Maybe we as fans/readers/posters have to be much more humble and be excited about top analysts and players giving their insights. But I kinda have the feeling that the forum structure or format is possibly outdated.
Never fear, captain red is here.
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On February 04 2011 05:26 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 04:38 clickrush wrote:On February 03 2011 20:08 gods_basement wrote:
i think that thread is a shining example of why good players are frustrated with posting on the forums.
"opinions are like assholes everyone's got one" and for some reason, on TL, everyone defends their opinion vehemently whether or not they have any clue about the subject. in the end, theres a sea of noise that makes it terribly difficult to pick out smart responses. Half the people are itching at the chance to put in their 2 cents about imbalance (usually unfounded) and the other half are itching to call out everyone else as whiners (without watching the video, reading posts, etc.).
its silly that, when smart players like idra and artosis try as hard as they possibly can to address the issue as objectively as they possibly can, start a shitstorm immediately, and gets the thread locked within 6 hours I agree. It is really a shame that the thread had to be locked. If you read carefully: there are quite a handfull of intelligent responses in that thread but again drown in meaningless spam and bullshit. The video itself shows something very interesting. It seems that it is possible to have an intelligent discussion about balance. They walk the fine line of a balance discussion mixed with strategic insights. And they provide alot of backround to the discussion too, so he video helps to understand the game itself better which is one of the main purposes of this site IMO. The last Artosis thread that was closed (as far as I remember), was a map balance article. Artosis got flamed and trolled so terribly that he had lost his temper and got tempbanned. The irony is that the majority of the community and players now repeat almost the exact same things he brought up before months. maybe this thread shows that its time for TL to have restricted threads/subforums. Maybe we as fans/readers/posters have to be much more humble and be excited about top analysts and players giving their insights. But I kinda have the feeling that the forum structure or format is possibly outdated. Never fear, captain red is here.
Aye, aye!
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goodbye ghermination
edit:
would like to ask, not questioning the authority of the mods but I found out that he has only been banned once for a week then this perm ban. Is it because he has a terrible posting history or did he accumulate enough warns?
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Osaka27156 Posts
On February 04 2011 18:54 Licmyobelisk wrote:
goodbye ghermination
edit:
would like to ask, not questioning the authority of the mods but I found out that he has only been banned once for a week then this perm ban. Is it because he has a terrible posting history or did he accumulate enough warns?
He lied too much.
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IM ON THE RUN FROM THE COPS FOR BEING A DRUGLORD
*updates twitter from local Starbucks*
On February 03 2011 10:00 BroOd wrote:
He's just a really bored guy, and TL is the creative writing class he never got to take for whatever reason. As far as trolls go, he's pretty harmless, just persistent.
It's honestly funny, and I'm glad he's banned. I really don't think it would be nearly as funny as it usually is if he was allowed on the sites and he just kept getting closed.
but i agree, once he puts that energy into something useful, he'll probably become rich or something ahgha
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So tdotkrayz decided to show up again out of the blue, but what about stimey? Does he still pop by from time to time?
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Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On February 05 2011 05:45 Slivered Skin wrote:
So tdotkrayz decided to show up again out of the blue, but what about stimey? Does he still pop by from time to time?
Stimey can't stay away.
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if i can provide some feedback, maybe post a link to the actual automated ban list in the OP of this thread. make it alot easier for the newer people coming in and checking out whats actually being discussed.
Maybe something like this?
Automated Ban List, Fuck Yea!
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 05 2011 17:13
drky was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.
That account was created on 2010-12-22 11:25:35 and had 8 posts.
Reason:
On February 05 2011 16:50 drky wrote:
who was that korean prick calling idra "agly"? I mean look at them with their small eyes and weird noses. No way Idra is ugly compared to any of them azn kids.
How in the world do you think this is acceptable posting?
How the hell did this guy get away with a 2 day ban for blatant racism?
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Wow, religious discussion are sure a gold mine for bans..
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Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On February 06 2011 03:24 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +February 05 2011 17:13
drky was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.
That account was created on 2010-12-22 11:25:35 and had 8 posts.
Reason:
On February 05 2011 16:50 drky wrote:
who was that korean prick calling idra "agly"? I mean look at them with their small eyes and weird noses. No way Idra is ugly compared to any of them azn kids.
How in the world do you think this is acceptable posting? How the hell did this guy get away with a 2 day ban for blatant racism?
It's about to be a perm as soon as the ban wears off.
He sent me a PM explaining why his comment was perfectly fine. Then tells me to look up "freedom of speech" on wikipedia lololol.
Edit - to answer why it wasn't a perm, it was the only post like this he's made, and I could see it being made in a fit of passion (ie, trying to vehemently defend idra). His PM to me basically showed that no, that wasn't the case. He's just dense.
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