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Please, if you are not staff, don't answer questions in this thread, even if you think you know the answer.

Also, please take complains about bans, question about TL as a site, etc to the Website Feedback Forum.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 04:52:08
November 06 2011 04:15 GMT
#561
On November 06 2011 12:00 LuxVenture wrote:
Hi mods! :D

I have a calendar-related question. If you click on the tournament calendar, you will find the Houston Open listed on December 4th. I am afraid I made a dreadful input error when filling out the calendar form--the event occurs on the 3rd of December! I tried to fix this through another calendar form (rejected) and also PM'd the mod in charge of calendar events, BroOd, but apparently he's away from TL for several weeks.

How can I fix my error and transfer the tournament listing to the correct date? I imagine another mod could do this--but I don't know who to turn to, as BroOd did not refer to a secondary mod in his thread on calendar events. I don't want to confuse people who see the tournament listed on Sunday but then click the tournament thread and see it is occurring on a Saturday.

Sorry about my first-time mistake! Promise it won't happen again! ^^;;

you submitted it for the right time, it might just be confusing because of the way the TL calendar displays. We have KST as our timezone base here, so that time on the 5th in korea is still the 4th in america. if you go to http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2011/12/04 you should see on the bottom line Sat 11:00 CST (assuming you have your time zone setting here set to central time)

if you have errors with submitted calendar events in the future you can also pm me.

this is a website feedback derail! somebody rerail the topic
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 04:57:27
November 06 2011 04:57 GMT
#562
Antoine, do you realize your name is french? (re-rail'd)
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:05:50
November 06 2011 05:03 GMT
#563
On November 06 2011 08:29 marttorn wrote:
I assume the banlings and mods occasionally get spiteful PM's from individuals who have been banned or temp banned. Could you show some of the more entertaining ones here?



Sure... I don't know about entertaining, most are just 4th grade-esque tirades. In truth, people tend to react one of three ways when they get banned...

1) They acknowledge the mistake they made and indicate they will not try to make it again, or if they're not sure, politely ask why they were banned.
2) They go full on retard and just start slamming the keyboard with whatever 4 letter word they can think of.
3) They try to defend/justify their actions, usually with the "well other people are doing it so they should get punished too!" or some other way of thinking they should get special treatment, or that they're an exception.

Anyways, enjoy... I'll sift through for some.


Original Message From cyprin:
Perma-ban for a single post after not getting a warning for months.
Very reasonable response, thanks bro

10/10, good moderation
2 thumbs up

retard


Original Message From MrProphylactic:
the only prerequisites for becoming an admin here must be lack of objectivity, ability to play favorites, and a general overall laziness when researching a dispute


Original Message From MrProphylactic:
My but you do not stop playing father to your favorites, the gross double standards on this site have gotten EVEN worse, I did not think that possible. The reason you have not seen me for a year is because I have better things to do with my time than waste it here, and you have reaffirmed that thought .
Do not worry I will not waste any more time here. I could make 50 dollars an hour teaching chess. Instead I was spending it for free in this community . Your inability to judge the value of that is ironic This site has gotten worse in regards to favortism ; with admins like you that do not have a clue how to objectively Judge a situation. For instance I get banned for POST LIKE THAT ???? When the numerous posts I was replying to were loads more assholeish. I am done caring I won't be wasting any more time in a ridiculous place like this , Do not bother perma-banning me for this I have multiple IP's and if i really wanted to I would just circumnavigate this ban, But I really do not care to waste my time at a ridiculous place like this anymore, where the average 1Q is 50 (lower among the admins )


Original Message From mburke05:
Hey,

Just wanted to thank you for being a brainless moron and banning me for giving an opinion, as a fora with the reputations for having the most (reliably) terrible mods, you have lived up to your billing. Congratulations, and sorry for offending you (obv you play zerg/protoss).

I literally post here once every week or so, and its usually pretty good posts, but the fact that some moron like you (who is likely like 14ish with a name like EvilTeletubby) gets offended by a post in a thread designed to provoke balance discussion, is pretty hilarious.

Anyway im fine just reading shit anyway, theres enough retardation to not want to respond as a result of mods like you promoting just a perpetuity of stupid shit.

Best,
Matt


Original Message From bfauto:
fuck your mother


Original Message From Qlimax_UK:
I was giving my opinion, or am i not allowed to do that? Run TL like a dictatorship? Maybe the website should be hosted in the Middle East.

Do something with your life please, being a mod on a forum is probably your biggest life achievement.


Original Message From bdictkam:
I suggest you read some of the recent post by "energies" as to what i was combating in that thread, it wasnt just me, its a general concencus on how people have been acting. And remeber you are a retard for not considering the big picture thanks idiot!


Original Message From bdictkam:
Yeh well im not goign to put up with people with sly and disrespectful attitude hiding behind being "regulars". I make really good posts, and will continue to make them in sept, until then. While your faggot regular make poor comments whenever they feel like in little cheeky ways.

Wasnt as much a rant as a sit down for that gummybear of a person. And yeh i wont put up with selective and bias policing of a forum. I dont need a reputation on a video game forum, i was just helping different people in different threads cause i was interested and sometimes have good advice and bored until uni started.

Anyways clearly you are a loser too not seeing the greater good, so go fuck your self


Original Message From aFF.TEEN:
fufufuffu



Original Message From question:
hey

Yea U banned me not because "shitty post",but because I have opinion.You guys on TL think everything is perfect and awesome,any feedback isnt possible.This joke bans just mean ur acting like a sheep without any opinion.My post isnt offensive its just statement based on real facts.


have a nice day


question


Original Message From ElusoryX:
you really have a problem with me do you. apparently you have not replied to my previous argument against your ban. i don't see why are you a mod.


Original Message From SuperFanBoy:
so I get ban for calling someone an idiot? If you treated everyone like that then 90% of the forum users would be banned right now. Also nice double standard, you ban me for calling someone an idiot and at the same time you call me a douche.

Lets be honest, your mad cause the koreans dominating the MLG and decided to vent your frustrations on me, not cool.

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Original Message From EvilTeletubby:
I couldn't care less about your opinion. How about the fact you start a reply off with "your an idiot" ?

Original Message From SuperFanBoy:
Tell me exactly what "acting like a douche" is?

Honestly, If you can't accept my opinion that the Koreans are out classing the foreigners, just look at the group standings, its a Korean finishing at the top of each group.. I think that pretty much speaks for itself.


Original Message From Amalaxi:
You're fucking stupid. Having Mods being retarded trolls isnt how a website should be run, I see idiots talking shit all day on these forums and they go unwarned, I post in my friends thread saying Protoss cool race and inb4warning because your dumb mod warned me for saying "play protoss" you people are fucking jokes.


Original Message From PNelson:
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Original Message From TL.net Bot:
You have been temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby.

Reason: Feel free to return as soon as you figure out that non-wavering polarized points of view coupled with passive aggressive judgmental insults aren't really conducive to a discussion.

Do it again, and you're gone permanently. People like you are forum-killers.

Do not attempt to circumvent this ban by making a new account, or your ban duration will be increased.



Suck my dick.. I could careless about this failure of a website or your liberal viewpoints. Ban me permanently, I could careless. You ban people who provide substantial proof to back their claims on a daily basis. I add a SINGLE remark that insults someone and I don't get a "warning" but I get criticized multiple times and see nothing done about it.. It's obvious your allow your own bias to get involved when moderating forums. People like you are the true "forum-killers." No wonder Idra thinks TL forums are such a joke, as are the moderators. I see it with my own eyes now.


Fuck you and fuck your website. I won't be back, i'd rather not contribute at all then have to deal with idiots such as yourself. You're a fat overweight queer with 15,000 posts.. Get a life. The sun would do you some good.

Keep moderating with double standards, i'm sure you're a real winner in the real world! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! I hope you hit the jackpot someday.

I was going to remove the personal insults as they're rather childish, but I thought better.. You deserve them, your actions speak for themselves.. I saw plenty of undeserved bans, mine may have been deserved but others were not. You fail to ban the "left leaning" posters who merely throw out criticism with no proof. I guess that you never saw the Duke University study that says the more education you receive/the older you get(wisdom?) the more conservative you get. Most liberals are high-school drop outs, our leftist president admitted to smoking crack.. MUST NOT BE ENOUGH PROOF FOR YOU! Accepted into an IVY league school because he's black.. You're probably a High-School Dropout, that's why you took offense to my post.


If I wanted to circumvent a ban on this forum it wouldn't be difficult, have fun chasing my proxies. <3

Have a good one

-PNelson



Original Message From TheBrainbug:
How is "cool story, bro" a meme?

Looks like you guys enjoy banning for random reasons more than having people participating in discussions.
stop the god complex, it's embarrassing.


Best regards,
TheBrainbug


Original Message From Ivanero:
So... you mods never commit mistakes. Ok. The only thing you expect for are apologies, instead of users trying to say that maybe you were wrong and try to be constructive to improve the way you administrate your website from someone who already has nice experience on it too.

You know what, I'm not going to make any move against TL, I just wanted to demonstrate a moderator that they shouldn't deal with their users like they were shit. Yeah, there are lots of negative and destructive users, but that doesn't mean that everybody is going to be like that. I didn't have any intention to be destructive or negative, and I always try to be constructive. I'm sure I could have made some real mistakes that maybe deserved a warn or ban, but in my opinion this is not the case.

From your point of view yeah, maybe I made a mistake. From mine, moderation on TL is just excesive. As I already explained, it's ok to warn/ban guys who just flame/destroy/troll and doesn't put any effort on their posts (LR threads are a great example of that last thing, being more like a chat instead of a forum), but that doesn't mean to ban everybody who talks about anything balance related word, even when it is with no malicious intention and it's argumented from common sense and respect.

By the way, read my first PM, I think It was balanced in respect while me being annoyed. So you've already didn't reacted positively to that.

And well, you keep talking about balance whining, and I could keep saying to you that it was not a whine. It's just a thought, it's what I see and maybe I'm wrong, that's why I have no need to complain about it. SC2 it's not my job, it's just a hobby, even if there is a real imbalance I wouldn't care so much about it, but it's something I like and I prefer it to be balanced and competitive. Just that. No need to whine or complain. I just think you mods see whines/complains even when they doesn't exist, because you're so tired of dealing with that.

I didn't remember why I was banned before, but I remember that the last time was something similar to this, I also speaked with the mod and he also had that kind of obstinated attitude, being so closed to think that maybe he judged so fast about an user. Since that, I tried to be more according to TL's strict rules. But seems to be not enough.

Yeah, I admit I made a mistake from the point of view of TL strict rules, but from my point of view, that rules (or the way you mods ban people) are so much excesive as I think I already made it clear.

But it's ok. In order to avoid being banned again I'll just try to avoid on posting anymore.

Thanks for reading and sorry for my english, I need to review it and it's hard for me right now.

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Original Message From EvilTeletubby:
Lol, you're still attempting to threaten to get your way.

You know, we're generally up for issuing ban reversals when we get a reply that goes something like "Yeah, I'm sorry, I made a mistake and it won't happen again, promise!". But yours is going more like "I did nothing wrong, and you need to unban me or I'll tell everyone!!!11"

Guess which approach gets reacted to positively, and which one doesn't?

Quite frankly I don't care when you joined the website; the point is that for YEARS AND YEARS now we have not tolerated off-topic balance whining in live reporting threads. This is the THIRD TIME you've done so (at least, that we've noticed). What would you seriously recommend us do for a third time offender??? You obviously didn't learn the first two times.

So again, you can either admit that you made a mistake, or keep whining. I really don't care at this point. Your threats are still LOL worthy and indicate a complete lack of maturity on your part. For someone who is trying to paint a picture of moral superiority, you're doing a fucking piss-poor job.

Original Message From Ivanero:
It's not a threat, it's just I thought that I would make sure that ALL SC2 community knew about this censoring and banning issue. I just gave an opportunity for you (or TeamLiquid) to correct, but I see that obstination it's maybe something that characterizes TL. Or it's maybe just you, we'll see it soon. As I said I have several websites, I know SEO well, and I have the tools for it, also friends.

But first, I'll get to TL staff, because I'm not sure if they're ok with obstinated and no-sense banning mods like you (I saw other no-sense bans from you too).

Obviously, If you have looked at my register date you would knew that I knew about TL just about 10 months ago at much, so no, I couldn't have paid attention at all in the last SEVERAL years.

And yes, sticking warnings/bans forever for each user has just (again) no sense. Should it be an individual purge for an user every 2-3 months if you knew something about community management.

To end this, don't worry about my ban. I'll just wait 1 week to have my stream back and I'll never post again here unless this is not the real way of acting from TL global staff.

Original Message From EvilTeletubby:
So threats are a valid way of attempting to get a ban reverted?

Nice job. That's all the more reason for it to stand.

And for the record, our goal is to keep any balance discussion out of live report threads for obvious reasons. If you've paid attention at all in the last several YEARS you would know that.

And yes, all your warnings/bans from before stick with you.

Original Message From Ivanero:
Lol? Banned previously? Really? Can you just look when that ban was? 4 months ago dude. And the first warning was... 8 months ago!! Are you saying to me that, If I get a warn 2 years ago, it still remains to now? Come on, seriously?

Also, I DIDN'T complain. Tell me where I complained, because I didn't see that anywhere. I didn't even start, I just answered other guys with arguments and with no complain dude!! Saying "I think Protoss are stronger than they should be" based on the games we're watching and lots of past events, is that really a complain? I accept it like it is from my thoughts and I don't complain about that. I'm not that kind of freak-guy that takes a game/hobby as is my life depended on it.

I don't understand that no-sense balance censoring, It just ruins the game to be better balanced, censoring players about discussing it with respect and education just ruins the game. It's ok to warn/ban guys who just talk bullshit about balance in destructive and disrespectful ways, but man... THIS? Can't be serious!

You know what? I administrate several websites, and I know how it works, but if this is TeamLiquid's way of acting, I just won't post anymore, and that's ok, but remove my ban so I can still have my stream on. Take it like a deal and I won't make all the SC2 community to know about this kind of excesive and no-sense censoring methods from TeamLiquid. I'm sure it's not easy to do that work, and there are lots of trolls, disrespectful guys, spammers... But hey, don't pay it with users with some common sense, please.

Original Message From EvilTeletubby:
Nope, no mistakes. You were complaining about balance in a LR thread, and the reason it was one week is because you've already been banned previously for balance whining before at the 2 day mark. If you're not going to learn from a 2 day ban, hopefully this 1 week ban will sink in a bit more.

Original Message From Ivanero:
Hi,

I received a ban from you and I think it was a mistake.

You banned me for a week basing on "balance whine", but I didn't make any whine, I just expressed a thought with arguments, without any whining or complain.

Also, you banned me for... one week??? without a warn or something before.

Also, I was just answering other guys, I didn't even started with that.

Well, I'm sure it's a mistake because it does not have any sense for me, and it seems to be really excesive.

Thanks.



That's from the most recent 12 pages I have.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 06 2011 05:12 GMT
#564
Those p.ms were less than fulfilling to read, thought it'd be fun or intriguing, but it just makes me annoyed and dismissal of them.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
November 06 2011 05:13 GMT
#565
Yeah I usually don't even acknowledge most of the crummy ones.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#566
Do their bans get further when they ramble like that?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
November 06 2011 05:23 GMT
#567
Yeah I've gone and permed some after comments like that.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:36:01
November 06 2011 05:25 GMT
#568
I'm not gonna lie, I laughed at bfauto's just because of how much effort he put into it compared to the others lol. They all just seem to reaffirm the notion that they should have been banned in the first place though.

Here's a question though for any/all:

If you had to move to another country other than the one you're living in currently, which country would you like to move to and why would you like to move there? (*No picking South Korea)

Also, for those of you who like operas, who is your favorite male and favorite female opera singer?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
November 06 2011 06:00 GMT
#569
then again you're probably not doing it right if you are not getting hate mail.

hell torte you got hate, I got hate, literally anyone who you see regularly on TL has got some sort of hate.

but right now I want to see Nyvone's hate PMs...I remember that user who kept making a new account just to post threads like "Nyvone sucks" lol.

Nyvone, could please show us your worst hate PM of all time?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
November 06 2011 06:06 GMT
#570
Those PM's were hilarious and sad. Like, why is it everyone online has to be on the moral high ground? And why is everyone on the internet in their 40's and successful irl, but everyone other than the person talking is a child. But, in the end.... WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!. I laughed so hard at that. There should be a thread dedicated to shaming people who PM mods like that.

Theres a good question for you, should there be a thread to shame people when they PM mods with gems like winner winner chicken dinner? Cuz i would totally browse that more than the ban list. lol.

Keep up the good work EvilTeletubby, with responses like that it pretty much proves the bans were the right way to go.
It rained today inside my head...
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 06 2011 06:46 GMT
#571
This isn't really worth it's own thread in feedback, but TL is featuring HoN events now? Seemed sort of odd.....

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 06 2011 06:48 GMT
#572
Can't see anything in that ss
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 06 2011 06:51 GMT
#573
I've never gotten any hate. :p (Except for one person who came into my blog today and gave it 1 star >: ( )

Maybe they should all just start using: http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

+ Show Spoiler [Example] +
My complaint about The Hon. EvilTeletubby

Well, I knew it was coming. In fact, I predicted it quite a long time ago when I said that The Hon. EvilTeletubby would cater to the basest instincts of evil pillocks. And now that he has, we must really enlighten the mind of Man and improve him as a rational, moral, and social being. To organize my discussion, I suggest that we take one step back in the causal chain and give peace a chance.

Fortunately, most people understand that EvilTeletubby's frightful, satanic sentiments are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of allotheism are blooming all around us. I will not say what is right and what is wrong when it comes to EvilTeletubby's beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments). But I will say one thing: I suggest that we call your attention to the problem of bestial politicasters. This right and truthful proposition, practically established, will help us expose some of his wicked deeds. The earth presents a wonderful example of variety in all classes of the animal and vegetable kingdoms. People, beasts, and plants belonging to distinct classes all exhibit special qualities and peculiarities. Unfortunately, EvilTeletubby's special quality is that he is not the only one who needs to reassess his assumptions. Think about the worst classes of discourteous Machiavellians there are. They too should realize that I never used to be particularly concerned about his newsgroup postings. Any damned fool, or so I thought, could see that if his thinking were cerebral rather than glandular, EvilTeletubby wouldn't consider it such a good idea to consign our traditional values to the rubbish heap of alarmism.

EvilTeletubby's fulminations can be rightly understood only as what some noisome libertines have been brave enough to call them: a failure. Does EvilTeletubby do research before he reports things, or does he just guess and hope he's right? The reason I ask is that EvilTeletubby's lies come in many forms. Some of his lies are in the form of double standards. Others are in the form of perversions. Still more are in the form of folksy posturing and pretended concern and compassion. There is one final irony to my story. The Hon. EvilTeletubby is wrong.

I'm sure their rants would be a lot more coherent and readable too.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:55:34
November 06 2011 06:54 GMT
#574
On November 06 2011 15:46 Diamond wrote:
This isn't really worth it's own thread in feedback, but TL is featuring HoN events now? Seemed sort of odd.....

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On November 06 2011 15:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Can't see anything in that ss

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EDIT: Yeah, it's on there right now. (Also sorry for double-posting, forgot to edit =/ )
you gotta dance
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:01:15
November 06 2011 06:59 GMT
#575
I don't see it on there at all for me.

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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
November 06 2011 07:01 GMT
#576
Is that some sly way of saying you have the option to see it turned off in calender with the new side bar customization? ;P
It rained today inside my head...
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 06 2011 07:01 GMT
#577
On November 06 2011 15:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't see it on there at all for me.

I think there was an option to configure what shows up under streams that came with the site update, right? I haven't experimented with it, but I think one of the options was to filter by game. So, did you configure your streams only to show certain games, excluding HoN/Dota/LoL?
you gotta dance
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:03:11
November 06 2011 07:02 GMT
#578
On November 06 2011 16:01 actionbastrd wrote:
Is that some sly way of saying you have the option to see it turned off in calender with the new side bar customization? ;P


Nope (forgot I had "other" turned off).

On November 06 2011 16:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On November 06 2011 15:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't see it on there at all for me.

I think there was an option to configure what shows up under streams that came with the site update, right? I haven't experimented with it, but I think one of the options was to filter by game. So, did you configure your streams only to show certain games, excluding HoN/Dota/LoL?



I only realized that now ): sorry
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
November 06 2011 07:02 GMT
#579
I think its because of the NASL tag really.
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November 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#580
Are you planning on re-thinking the TLPD system which is right now behind the LP in updates and very lackluster ?

That system was good when everything that matters was broadcasted in Korea but nowadays for SC 2 it's not the case anymore.
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