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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 16:23:44
March 21 2011 19:40 GMT
#1
Something dies inside me whenever I see a disorganized regional thread in the TL Community section. Examples are plenty:

Wisconsin:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161450
Saskatchewan:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124304
Alaska:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199857
Central Ohio
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153581
Ottawa: this one is a little better organized, with OP actually updating his thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145109

What do these threads have in common? They don't lead to meetups! They don't contribute to the community! Inmost cases, the original poster doesn't follow up, doesn't update the original post, and no one takes initiative to meet. All that happens in these threads is people saying "Yea, let's meet! Let's do this! Awesome! Let me know if anything happens"....

2 months later, NOTHING HAPPENS! ...as if the thread wasn't created in the first place.

This Chicago thread (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161205 ) was notorious for disorganization - everyone asking everyone to organize a meet-up, but no one took any initiative. Months of going back and forth.

A major issue with these threads: contact info:
I never understood why people think the Battle.net ID & char code are reliable contact ways. If you're not online on SC2/battle.net, you can't be contacted!!

I did find one successful, organized thread; people actually met/had tournaments, good job guys!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168119

But if you're like me, with dozens of friends in my battle.net friends list, I don't know who is from my area only by looking at their nickname in my SC2 list. Trust me, the Battle.net ID & char code is not a reliable contact method.

The best way to contact people is by email. A LOT of people don't have Facebook (You'd be surprised!)

My suggestion is (not only to the TL admins, but to the every day TL users, long time or new, lurkers or avid posters): Let's get organized! If your region is not organized in a thread, post a thread of your own, but keep it organized.

Problem: You don't know what to write in your thread.
Solution: Use my Chicago thread for reference (as an example). I'm not saying that is the best way to do it but I had success with it. It's better than disorganized threads all over the place.

Remember this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161205
Introducing my organized Chicago thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178194

Much better! I have a map of user locations, sc2ranks, facebook group, and RELIABLE CONTACT INFO! Last weekend I organized the first tournament with prizes in Chicagoland! It was a blast! The LAN center is interested in organizing more, and they will bring sponsors too! That would have never happened in the old thread. There was no reliable way to get back to the people interested in tournaments, because TL PMs don't notify you when you received a message, and few people just check the thread from now and then.

Problem: Some people don't want to meet unless there is a 1v1 tournament.
Solution: 2 separate mailing lists.
Initially, I wanted my thread to be focused mostly on 3v3 and 4v4 (noobie LAN parties, lots of fun)

personal opinion:
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(REALLY, what's the point of meeting with others if you're not playing 3v3, 4v4? I can play 1v1 from my house!),


MANY wanted a tournament with prizes. So I compromised: I now maintain 2 separate mailing lists, one for 1v1 tournaments, and one for team games.

RESULTS: We've had BOTH types of events - we met at different locations, NOT JUST LAN CENTERS. We met at someone's house 4 times. It was great. We played lots of 3v3s. We had a GSL finals viewing. I met so many people, and we are in talks with our 2 Chicago Lan Centers (that I know of, so far) to organize a HUGE tournament, with prizes. One of the LAN centers FOUND ME through my facebook group, I didn't even know about them!!! I'm not boasting, I'm telling you what worked for me, so that you have a model that can work for your region.

Seriously, look at all the "I DON'T HAVE ANY SC2 FRIENDS" posts:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201816
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=203545
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=202502
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=202245

You may not like my idea. If not, please discuss: What is the best way to have an organized, specialized thread creation standard where people can be contacted back (email is the best IMO). As a result, we would have more LANs, tournaments, GSL/MLG viewings, etc. => more fun for everyone & growth of esports in the end.

PS: I asked the mods to rename my thead twice. They are very helpful (Thanks, Ghostclaw!)
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 17:52:56
March 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#2
Don't bring up the Practice Partner Thread. I'm talking about regional threads.

Also, I've seen the TL User Location Thread too (too wide in scope; the OP ran out of places to post in Google Maps), and The College Location one. Colleges are not inclusive of people outside their college.

One issue is "how big of an area should these threads be?" I suggest using major urban areas since one state is too big (from N Cali to S Cali is too long of a drive)

Another issue: A player can become inactive and doesn't want to be emailed anymore. Solution: Simply notify the thread organizer to remove you from the email list
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
March 21 2011 21:08 GMT
#3
moved to TL Community.
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
savagebeavers
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada108 Posts
March 22 2011 06:04 GMT
#4
I don't know if there is anyway for the owner of a thread to be taken over because i would glady take over the saskatchewan Sc2 thread. I have been helping put on lans and have been keeping people in touch about events. I am also starting CSL team at the university of Saskatchewan.

The user who started the Saskatchewan Sc2 gamers thread has abandoned it, can i take it over mods?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124304
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 17:49:58
March 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#5
On March 22 2011 15:04 savagebeavers wrote:
I don't know if there is anyway for the owner of a thread to be taken over because i would glady take over the saskatchewan Sc2 thread. I have been helping put on lans and have been keeping people in touch about events. I am also starting CSL team at the university of Saskatchewan.

The user who started the Saskatchewan Sc2 gamers thread has abandoned it, can i take it over mods?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124304


See that's exactly what happened with the old Chicago thread. It started off on the wrong foot. Why do you want to take over a thread where there is no direction set in the OP?

A thread that starts with "i know a few of you exist" is doomed to fail - of course SC2 gamers exist!

savagebeavers, I strongly suggest creating your own thread for Saskatchewan. Anyone else reading this and wants their region to get organized, make your own thread! . Use this one as an example:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178194

Ask the mods to close the old, disorganized thread.
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