EPTI'm just curious if anyone is/ knows an example of someone set straight by bans?
I'm pretty sure fanatacist stopped being a dick about 7000 posts in, but he's gone now. Wondering if there are other examples.
Set Straight By Bans?
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
I'm just curious if anyone is/ knows an example of someone set straight by bans? I'm pretty sure fanatacist stopped being a dick about 7000 posts in, but he's gone now. Wondering if there are other examples. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + see before I would have written "because people here are stupid" | ||
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eSen1a
Australia1058 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
Well I never did the first one again lol, and I think i'll rephrase fuck blizzard in a more professional way in the future, like That company blizzard needs to stop being bunch of dicks and leave bw alone. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
also, bans unfortunately do not cure being stupid and opinionated. Look at hammered! sob3k was just temp banned for 1 week by Harem. That account was created on 2009-08-17 10:46:37 and had 1265 posts. Reason: my horoscope tells me that you will continue to be a huge dick in the future maybe a week break will help change that | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm or b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people. | ||
jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
I do agree that the banning is effective though, just the subtle constant threat is enough (for me at least) to be more careful and tactful when posting, and to always add an extra sentence or two to fill space even when all I really wanted to do was post a one liner. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote: No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm or b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people. I think the only change has been that I use my shift key more.... | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:30 DivinO wrote: I'm pretty sure fanatacist stopped being a dick about 7000 posts in, but he's gone now. Wondering if there are other examples. I'm pretty sure he didnt stop, and got perma banned, i could be mistaken though. Some of the current admins/Liquid players were banned before if i m not mistaken, Nony for sure, then i think i saw Fakestve and some other moderators, there was a thread, no idea how to find it actually | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Although I wasn´t the worst poster back then either, the permaban was a bit surprising as I had only got a 2 day ban once before it. Oh yeah and with this account I got a warning for a stupid meme-post. Stay AWAY from those. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:41 Hawk wrote: fantacist is my alt also, bans unfortunately do not cure being stupid and opinionated. Look at hammered! sob3k was just temp banned for 1 week by Harem. That account was created on 2009-08-17 10:46:37 and had 1265 posts. Reason: my horoscope tells me that you will continue to be a huge dick in the future maybe a week break will help change that What. You're kidding! | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
Than again sometimes (very infrequently) ill get one thats not really warranted but you take the good with the bad i guess. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:08 Geo.Rion wrote: I'm pretty sure he didnt stop, and got perma banned, i could be mistaken though. Some of the current admins/Liquid players were banned before if i m not mistaken, Nony for sure, then i think i saw Fakestve and some other moderators, there was a thread, no idea how to find it actually Because you have a personal grudge against him, it becomes obvious why you have such a skewed perspective on reality. Why not just confront Hawk about it now, since it was his alt? | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:48 Murderotica wrote: Because you have a personal grudge against him, it becomes obvious why you have such a skewed perspective on reality. Why not just confront Hawk about it now, since it was his alt? lawl | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:41 Hawk wrote: also, bans unfortunately do not cure being stupid and opinionated. Look at hammered! Ironically hamerd has an alt and he posts well on it. He was given the "no astrology" ultimatum and abides by it. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:57 Chill wrote: Ironically hamerd has an alt and he posts well on it. He was given the "no astrology" ultimatum and abides by it. So the recent horoscope banned ID was not hamerd? | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:57 Chill wrote: Ironically hamerd has an alt and he posts well on it. He was given the "no astrology" ultimatum and abides by it. So does this other "dick" guy, no?  . | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:58 Murderotica wrote: So the recent horoscope banned ID was not hamerd? Oh I'm just checking his user info what the fuck he's a terrible poster LOL I can't keep up with TL sorry. | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
was actually just a really bad day + i was just quitting smoking weed. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:05 Chill wrote: Oh I'm just checking his user info what the fuck he's a terrible poster LOL I can't keep up with TL sorry. Anyone who gets into a sport and picks up the current best team is always a terrible person. On September 18 2010 00:48 Murderotica wrote: Because you have a personal grudge against him, it becomes obvious why you have such a skewed perspective on reality. Why not just confront Hawk about it now, since it was his alt? Yeah bro, got beef?? and 5hit, what a fuckin' jerk. Was that meant as 5hit or SHIT, because I always read it as the latter for some reason... | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:16 Hawk wrote: Anyone who gets into a sport and picks up the current best team is always a terrible person. Yeah bro, got beef?? and 5hit, what a fuckin' jerk. Was that meant as 5hit or SHIT, because I always read it as the latter for some reason... Lol@Chill I always read it as Shitcombo even though it's clearly five hit combo, simply because it was more fitting. | ||
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Chill
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Tabbris
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All that matters is i learned my lesson | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:20 Tabbris wrote: I said All that matters is i learned my lesson Did you? Daedes 105 105 2009-08-29 Banned BurningMothership 8 7 2010-03-10 Banned Daldus 35 35 2010-03-11 Banned Ginko 69 0 2010-04-18 Banned | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
My example on my most recent ban was for derailing the thread when someone said tt1's reputation is the justification for his reasoning in the thread or something to that notion. I went on a rant about how TT1 was a known hacker, and he's got no reputation to speak of, and i got ban for 2 weeks. Later on i found out that apparently TT1 has changed and now everybody respect him, and I don't get a free shot on tt1 like we do on other hackers. I could have avoided the ban by pointing out it is a fallacy to use authority to support a claim. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:24 Chill wrote: Did you? Daedes 105 105 2009-08-29 Banned BurningMothership 8 7 2010-03-10 Banned Daldus 35 35 2010-03-11 Banned Ginko 69 0 2010-04-18 Banned Yep the first 2 where to alternative accounts so both were banned. Daldus was banned for the comment and that was kind it from there. heres the post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117628¤tpage=2#29 Chill investigative skills -.- | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:26 Tabbris wrote: Yep the first 2 where to alternative accounts so both were banned. Daldus was banned for the comment and that was kind it from there. heres the post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117628¤tpage=2#29 Chill investigative skills -.- Daldus was just banned by zatic. Dun dun dun DUNNNnNnNn! Anyways, I'm not trying to attack you or anything since I don't recognize your name, I just hope you have improved | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:34 Chill wrote: Dun dun dun DUNNNnNnNn! Anyways, I'm not trying to attack you or anything since I don't recognize your name, I just hope you have improved Believe me my heart was skipping...2day ban and 2 warnings. Not bad for 800 post :/ Being permabanned was a horrible experience. | ||
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
frankly I still have a probe past 250posts/30days (Which is about the only formula I know) and I get the feeling that I'm treading water in the deep end. maybe I should just start a new account to get rid of all that and cuz my name sucks. WAIAWAIAIWIAIAIAI!!!! I'm still thinking about it mods. EDIT: A while back I had no idea that you ccan resign up with the exact same name and hometown etc. I guess bans just punish you by erasing your identity and pseudo rank huh? | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:19 Murderotica wrote: Lol@Chill I always read it as Shitcombo even though it's clearly five hit combo, simply because it was more fitting. There was(is) a guy on TL.net that his nickname was(is) 5HITCOMBO :O! | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:42 Thoreezhea wrote: I got warned a couple of times, and almost all of my threads have been closed, but that was back when I saw TL as "yahoo answers" frankly I still have a probe past 250posts/30days (Which is about the only formula I know) and I get the feeling that I'm treading water in the deep end. maybe I should just start a new account to get rid of all that and cuz my name sucks. WAIAWAIAIWIAIAIAI!!!! I'm still thinking about it mods. You get your zealot at 250 post 90 days... Also i remeber my 2 day ban was from this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133083¤tpage=3#54 The guy thought that superbugs were giant-bugs or something so he called the poll stupid. In which i unwittingly replied "are you stupid?" But i should of explained what it was instead :/ | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On September 18 2010 00:48 Murderotica wrote: Because you have a personal grudge against him, it becomes obvious why you have such a skewed perspective on reality. Why not just confront Hawk about it now, since it was his alt? I have no personal grudge against him or anybody else, i m around for long enough to see him trolling ruining many conversations, and i have no idea if he and Hawk are the same person or not, i thought that wasnt allowed at all. but i do remember reading trough the ban list and seeing fanaticist perma banned. I might remember wrongly or it could have been lifted. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:45 Tabbris wrote: You get your zealot at 250 post 90 days... Also i remeber my 2 day ban was from this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133083¤tpage=3#54 the guy thought that superbugs were gian-tbugs or something so he called the poll stupid. In which i unwittingly replied "are you stupid?" But i should of explained what it was instead :/ I've been here since......April. (I think, but definitely May) any1 else find it funny that the auto ban list and "set straight by bans are both bumped? | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:47 Geo.Rion wrote: I have no personal grudge against him or anybody else, i m around for long enough to see him trolling ruining many conversations, and i have no idea if he and Hawk are the same person or not, i thought that wasnt allowed at all. but i do remember reading trough the ban list and seeing fanaticist perma banned. I might remember wrongly or it could have been lifted. You're obviously allowed to have more than 1 account if you're a respected member. Notable examples: Hot_bid = baller Chill = iatent (Group of admin) = Clear Hawk = fanatacist vGi-CoW = Raithed etc. etc. They usually do a good job of hiding it but it wasn't that hard for Hawk because it's not really difficult to up your asshole meter by 10%. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:52 Thoreezhea wrote: I've been here since......April. (I think, but definitely May) any1 else find it funny that the auto ban list and "set straight by bans are both bumped? Says you joined July so you have 2 weeks to go :D | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
And I got problems with it! Not with warning itself, that was warranted, but with fact that my image got edited into spoilers and there was - user was warned for this post. I mean naturally these red notifications are designed so that people see that how they should not post, but in this case they see edited/not warn worthy post and warning below. How does that serve educational purposes. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:58 Jakalo wrote: I got warned once or twice the most recent being for posting unspoilered NSFW image. And I got problems with it! Not with warning itself, that was warranted, but with fact that my image got edited into spoilers and there was - user was warned for this post. I mean naturally these red notifications are designed so that people see that how they should not post, but in this case they see edited/not warn worthy post and warning below. How does that serve educational purposes. It serves the purpose of correcting the initial mistake that earned you a warning, which is obviously foremost in priority over re-education of the astute masses. | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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D-Lite
United Kingdom223 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:58 Tabbris wrote: Says you joined July so you have 2 weeks to go :D That's really funky. ....Maybe I started lurking in april...... Also I should be allowed to check myself. lol | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:58 Jakalo wrote: I got warned once or twice the most recent being for posting unspoilered NSFW image. And I got problems with it! Not with warning itself, that was warranted, but with fact that my image got edited into spoilers and there was - user was warned for this post. I mean naturally these red notifications are designed so that people see that how they should not post, but in this case they see edited/not warn worthy post and warning below. How does that serve educational purposes. You should know better. And they cant just leave the picture there for unsuspecting eyes | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:01 Thoreezhea wrote: That's really funky. ....Maybe I started lurking in april...... Also I should be allowed to check myself. lol You can...just go to your profile | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
There are others too... pretty good system. But the success rate isn't TOO high I might add. There are a damn lot of repeat offenders. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:02 Amber[LighT] wrote: I got a ban for being funny, and a warning because baneling-mods have very little sense of humor. No lesson learned here I love these posts because they never contain the links. I'll drop them here so people can decide. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127743 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=144938¤tpage=3#41 | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:00 DivinO wrote: Fanatacist asked to be permabanned. And it wasn't much of a perm. He still posts here (and it's not hawk ) | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:05 Hawk wrote: On a slightly more real note, I think every single one of my bans/warnings was executed by a Euro admin. Pretty much supports the conclusion that you all have piss poor humo(u)r!!! Hawk was just banned by Kennigit. The following Auto-Warning was sent to this user by Manifesto7 Hawk was just temp banned for 2 days by Twisted. Hawk was just temp banned for 30 days by Kennigit. The following Auto-Warning was sent to this user by Nyovne 2/5. O_o | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Bans can absolutely clean up a person. I had my first account on TL banned (rightfully so!) and since then I have progressed over the years rather nicely if I might say so There are others too... pretty good system. But the success rate isn't TOO high I might add. There are a damn lot of repeat offenders. I wanted to make a comment about micronesia but im not sure what interview im thinking of | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:16 Chill wrote: I love these posts because they never contain the links. I'll drop them here so people can decide. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127743 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=144938¤tpage=3#41 What, Chill giving power of decision to the masses? Will his name be cleared if we so decide ^^ not that he should, these are quite thoroughly failed attempts to make a joke P.S. Chill if you dont mind sharing, what happened to TL attack, I was convinced it was scheduled twice in a month? | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:35 Jakalo wrote: What, Chill giving power of decision to the masses? Will his name be cleared if we so decide ^^ not that he should, these are quite thoroughly failed attempts to make a joke P.S. Chill if you dont mind sharing, what happened to TL attack, I was convinced it was scheduled twice in a month? Plexa's been busy and I haven't had a weekend free in forever. Been living it up before Winter hits (ie. in a month) and I get locked indoors. First one free comes Oct 2/3. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:16 CTStalker wrote: And it wasn't much of a perm. He still posts here (and it's not hawk )On September 18 2010 02:17 Chill wrote: Hawk was just banned by Kennigit. The following Auto-Warning was sent to this user by Manifesto7 Hawk was just temp banned for 2 days by Twisted. Hawk was just temp banned for 30 days by Kennigit. The following Auto-Warning was sent to this user by Nyovne 2/5. O_o pffffft, it's Friday you party poopers~~~~ Canadians throw random u's in words too, I just assumed they shared similar poor taste in humor =] How many did I have on my old one?? | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
I then lurked for a few months, and had a small talk with Cow and said I would try and be a better poster haha. I made this account, and I'm happy with it because now I like it more than my previous name and I also have a shiny icon =D I still don't post much content wise. Usually my posts are around 2 or 3 lines, but I don't post anything offensive towards others anymore (at least I try not to), unless I know them in real life haha. Even then it might not be a good idea since the mods won't know that fact. Overall, I think the ban did make me learn to try and post better. I still have a swear in every other post though. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:19 Tabbris wrote: I wanted to make a comment about micronesia but im not sure what interview im thinking of Nvm it was this post http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=65179¤tpage=9#179 | ||
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hifriend
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
That thread was flame bait hard core. Yo chill can you still see all my old accounts? I know my IP has changed like 8 times. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
been good ever since ^_^ | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On September 18 2010 03:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Yeah, I got banned in the Michael Jackson thread for posting "But think of the children!" or something like that. That thread was flame bait hard core. Yo chill can you still see all my old accounts? I know my IP has changed like 8 times. Yeah I said something like mj was just feigning death to garner mouth to mouth from those kids that were present. Lol I suck. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 18 2010 03:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Yeah, I got banned in the Michael Jackson thread for posting "But think of the children!" or something like that. That thread was flame bait hard core. Yo chill can you still see all my old accounts? I know my IP has changed like 8 times. TL doesn't track everything after a certain time, but elephants never forget. | ||
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Cham
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On September 18 2010 01:58 Murderotica wrote: You're obviously allowed to have more than 1 account if you're a respected member. Notable examples: Hot_bid = baller Chill = iatent (Group of admin) = Clear Hawk = fanatacist vGi-CoW = Raithed etc. etc. They usually do a good job of hiding it but it wasn't that hard for Hawk because it's not really difficult to up your asshole meter by 10%. Wait a minute, Hot_bid is baller?! | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On September 18 2010 01:42 funkie wrote: There was(is) a guy on TL.net that his nickname was(is) 5HITCOMBO :O! That guy was a jackass with like 2.5k posts Call him shitcombo to make him look really dumb, he had no idea it looked like that when he made the name lol | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Didn't learn my lesson though, as I'm still a gambler at heart. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 03:40 numLoCK wrote: Only time I got banned was playing beta key roulette. Didn't learn my lesson though, as I'm still a gambler at heart. I heard alot of people got banned from that. But i have no idea why lol It doesnt seem very hard not to get banned in that thread edit-went back to read rules. Misread one of the rules. Thought just the 19th and 20th posters would be banned per page | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:51 Ancestral wrote: I've never been banned but I live in constant fear. So I think the mods are doing their job on that level at least. LOL This. I got warned recently for a poor post in the strategy section though :D I had such a clean record too? loool | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
I want TL to be a resourceful place filled with good information. When I'm looking at SC2 Strategy section, I don't want to see pointless macro pictures and retarded bickering, I want to see in depth conversation about strategy.. Not "I got 6 pooled again" Its best just to leave the silly threads alone, they will probably get closed anyways. Edit: Oh yeah and I've been warned once. It just means a mod likes you, thats all | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote: No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm or b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people. Looks like you unfortunately, have done quite a mediocre job at both :D imo, not getting banned on tl.net for the mannered, but erm...passionate...poster, is knowing which hill you choose to die on, so to speak. You can't martyr yourself every single time someone posts something offensively stupid, you'll get permabanned. Instead, doing it sparingly, save that rage for the people who really deserve it. And try to contribute a bit when your not busy ragin. | ||
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Sentient66
United States651 Posts
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jalstar
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 05:34 jalstar wrote: after getting a 2-day temp ban in march i decided to become a better poster, i made a lot of additions to liquipedia and wrote an article about zero. sometimes i still post shit though I want to contribute to liquidpedia but i have horrible grammar : * ( Care to tell me what was? | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On September 18 2010 05:35 Tabbris wrote: I want to contribute to liquidpedia but i have horrible grammar : * ( Care to tell me what was? Just search for Rekrul in TL... | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
its worked so far though i deserved the first ban cause i called this dude a retarded fucking moron iirc | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Puosu
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If TL is important enough to a person then said person has to be quite the dimwit for him not to be able to learn from the warnings and/or bans, if he isn't learning then its rather obvious the person doesn't even care that much about his posting ability. | ||
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United States290 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:45 Tabbris wrote: You get your zealot at 250 post 90 days... Also i remeber my 2 day ban was from this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133083¤tpage=3#54 The guy thought that superbugs were giant-bugs or something so he called the poll stupid. In which i unwittingly replied "are you stupid?" But i should of explained what it was instead :/ LoL, that was me! I knew I recognized what you were talking about for some reason... p.s. I did not think super bugs were giant bugs, lol. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
As for my post quality, I usually go on posting sprees once in a while, and I feel that those lower my post quality significantly, so I try to make it up by attempting to contribute to the site every now and then, though I doubt my contributions are many. ^^; | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:16 Chill wrote: I love these posts because they never contain the links. I'll drop them here so people can decide. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127743 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=144938¤tpage=3#41 Ok, the 2nd one was iffy for a ban, the warning was gracious enough, so, well done mods. But the 1st one I found hilarious! LOL, sorry Chill | ||
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Carnac
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Beyonder warned me once with a personal PM (before the actual warning system was in place) early on, then again he's a meanie! | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On September 18 2010 06:51 Carnac wrote: I dunno guys, I've never been banned from any forum in my ~12 years on the internetz, I think it's usually pretty hard to get banned when you aren't an idiot about your posting. Beyonder warned me once with a personal PM (before the actual warning system was in place) early on, then again he's a meanie! Back in the day I use to think that anyone that got banned was a retard. Then I got banned. Now I still think that everyone that gets banned is a retard. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
I can tell I'm going to get banned eventually b/c I get a bit too passionate (read: stupid) sometimes. However, I know the warning have done their jobs because I can not tell you how many times I have hit quote > typed up a long-as-fuck reply about how god damned stupid said poster is and why they're stupid... then closed the tab because I know I'm just asking to be banned. There should be a counter next to post count of closed replies count... would be interesting for sure | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 18 2010 06:16 Pokebunny wrote: I got banned for a meme in a friends blog, because he posted the same thing on my blog. He didn't get banned. where friend = arb. cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. Poetic justice. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:16 CTStalker wrote: And it wasn't much of a perm. He still posts here (and it's not hawk )Oh man, I really want to know who it is now... | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
let's not lie to our selves, we all saw that coming. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. ban of the week? | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
Lesson learned: either read through every single page of jokes to know if it is still safe to post them, or don't post any at all. The latter is easier, and it wasn't that important to me to be Carlos Mencia | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. I love our mods. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. That was just epic. The automated ban list-thread and the closed thread list is one of my favorite places on tl.net. So many gems of modern internet culture to find there ^^ | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
I was also warned once by Mani as I didn't see a warning to stop arguing about something. But that was just a mistake, the argument wasn't that heated. Also at one point I was told that my mod notes were funny. Though I have never found out what they were. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Relickey
United States145 Posts
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Loser777
1931 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
Even nice, civil, intelligent people can have spats of stupidity, though, and I think disciplinary action when appropriate can help cool their heads. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On September 18 2010 04:21 larjarse wrote: I recieved a two day ban for being a dick to another dick, and I learned my lesson. I didnt even know I was banned because the next time I logged in, it was already lifted. I want TL to be a resourceful place filled with good information. When I'm looking at SC2 Strategy section, I don't want to see pointless macro pictures and retarded bickering, I want to see in depth conversation about strategy.. Not "I got 6 pooled again" Its best just to leave the silly threads alone, they will probably get closed anyways. Edit: Oh yeah and I've been warned once. It just means a mod likes you, thats all This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread. On September 18 2010 08:42 tomatriedes wrote: I wish I could see my mod notes. Somehow I get the feeling that one or two mods must have come really close to (at least) temp-banning me at some point. ;; No mod notes have been made on this account yet. On September 18 2010 08:40 sith wrote: Also at one point I was told that my mod notes were funny. Though I have never found out what they were. On August 21 2005 12:01 ________ wrote: ban? Nothing exciting. :p | ||
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
As for people who have been banned and learned their lesson...hmm..can't think of any of the top of my head but didn't kawaiirice get banned for 3 times and he's pretty straight now. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
I don't think bans set people straight, they just change themselves over time, call it growing up/out or w.e you like. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 06:26 danl9rm wrote: LoL, that was me! I knew I recognized what you were talking about for some reason... p.s. I did not think super bugs were giant bugs, lol. Oh lol | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 18 2010 09:44 SonuvBob wrote: This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread. Nothing exciting. :p How about mine :D. i might of pissed someone off :/ | ||
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Laggy
United States385 Posts
Since then I was banned for not sure how long but then the admin thought it was too harsh so it was a warning, what I said was a little to passive aggressive I suppose I was telling someone how stacking mutas is a waste of time in Starcraft 2 so I kind of said it in a flaming tone. + Show Spoiler + "Stacking doesn't exist in sc2 and even if you find the time to be clicking that much a thor will come in and ruin your cutesy micro trick that doesn't exist. And now I try to be a quality poster with being very light on any aggression, but still not muting my opinions! -Laggy p.s I am really enjoying the TL community I think the reason that it's so good is because of the mods. p.p.s opinions is really close to onion, nvm. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:30 DivinO wrote: I love the Automated Ban Thread. I see a lot of people banning people because they're dicks and saying "maybe you'll learn with this ban". I'm just curious if anyone is/ knows an example of someone set straight by bans? I'm pretty sure fanatacist stopped being a dick about 7000 posts in, but he's gone now. Wondering if there are other examples. I'm an example of getting set straight by a ban. You won't see me doing stupid posts anymore. | ||
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T3tra
United States406 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:53 Grobyc wrote: I had 2 other self-requested bans other than that. As in you asked to be banned for a period of time? Like.. "Exams are coming up so I don't want to be posting on TL to distract me from studying, please ban me for X amount of time?" Is that what you mean? | ||
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er.misrah
United States55 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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er.misrah
United States55 Posts
On September 18 2010 11:54 Durak wrote: The Beta Roulette thread set me straight. I learned that I should avoid SC2. In fact, it probably worked very well considering how easy it is to get bait-banned in SC2 threads. same. that is how i was banned, and that is my warning, one post in sc2 and im perma hehe | ||
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WarChimp
Australia943 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
This is a Warning! THIS IS A NOTICE THAT IF YOU EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER POST FIRST AGAIN NOT ONLY ON THIS FORUM BUT ON ANY FORUM AND DONT THINK WE WONT FIND OUT BECAUSE WE WILL EVEN IF ITS ON SOME PRIVATE FORUM THAT ONLY YOUR FAMILY POSTS ON I SWEAR TO GOD I'LL KIDNAP YOUR FUCKING GRANDMOTHER AND BEAT THE URL OUT OF HER AND I WILL FIND OUT IF YOU POST FIRST THIS IS A NOTICE THAT IF YOU EVER DO IT AGAIN I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR TONGUE OUT AND SLAP YOUR ACROSS YOUR STUPID NERD FACE WITH IT AND AFTER THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE WITHOUT EYES I MEAN IT I'LL PULL OUT YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS AND THEN HOLD THEM UP TO YOUR FACE SO YOU CAN LOOK AT YOURSELF SHRIEK IN HORROR BEFORE MY BLADE ENTERS YOUR SKULL AND EVERYTHING GOES DARK Thanks in advance for your cooperation, The Mod Staff | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Man i used to post w.e came to mind now i type out so many responses and then just don't hit post. either because i moved on from raging or i just don't think the post is worth anything, else i could easily be doing 200 posts a week lol | ||
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
) as well. Because they were small things, I haven't become a new man from it, but at the same time, I've learned not to do those things anymore | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
On September 18 2010 09:44 SonuvBob wrote: This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread. Nothing exciting. :p And who might that __________ be I wonder? Or are you saying that mod notes don't store who wrote them? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66159 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
Getting banned is incredibly scary when you love the forum and it's content, Don't want to miss out on anything | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On September 18 2010 16:21 konadora wrote: how many times was baal banned again? nine times | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On September 18 2010 21:14 Carnac wrote: mod notes are mostly just a record of warns & bans has the userhad, it's rare for staff to actually write something about a user heh no harm in saying that we did this on WGT. Some accounts had some juicy gossip lol (ex: hovz) and others were of praise and/or misunderstanding of posting etiquette (ex: control) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Redunzl
862 Posts
it happens. legendary personalities usually agitate the type of personality that enjoys "moderating". | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
On September 18 2010 09:44 SonuvBob wrote: This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread. Nothing exciting. :p what are mine! On September 18 2010 11:18 Brees wrote: ive had about 10 accounts banned, at 500 posts this time . lets see how long it lasts thats a lovely way of asking for one It's quite comical the way you put it hahahaPersonally i've never even received a warning but I swear it's been probably pretty close | ||
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
And I agree what has been said previously: On September 18 2010 06:16 Puosu wrote: Being never punished for anything you subconsciously start trying your limits, that's what happened to me anyway. It's the reason why I find myself more and more typing a reply but not clicking on the post button. Most of the time it's better that way though. | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
Those words will haunt me forever. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66159 Posts
that's way less than i imagined | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
) for not reading the thread thoroughly.Think it was the TL invitational for north america and i asked if some dudes (ret and someone more?) wasnt invited. Next thing I know it I had a 2day ban for not reading the thread. I guess mani had a bad day or maybe there was 1231423 people who asked that question. The only thing that buggers me with that is that after reading the thread I didnt get it - only understood it when the write up came. Would be really sad if I lost this ID though ;( | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/lYQUw.png) Don't know what he was temp-banned for, but I thought it was pretty funny | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
Also, I can think of a few people who have been temp banned and now post well. A lot of people avoid posting though after a temp ban =/ | ||
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
(steven colberts a freaking comedian) Edit: Whoa. I just had ascary moment where I accidentally logged out and couldn't log back in. (I think the mods are messing with my mind.) | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
I have learned from other people's bans not to become enraged by trolls though. And I have learned not to bash starcraft edit: o 0 ____!!O!!!!! Nooo Post # 667 | ||
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Icx
Belgium853 Posts
Took me a long while to recover, for a long time I would write up a post, then think "is this a really good post" and 99% of the time just hit the back button on my browser :p I did start recovering a while ago and started posting more, but I'm still afraid of getting hit by the banhammer :p (wich is a good thing probably) | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On September 19 2010 00:51 synapse wrote: Don't know what he was temp-banned for, but I thought it was pretty funny Murderotica wrote: Hey cunt, Fuck you. You know why? Because no one actually wants to have sex with you just from finding out you're a girl online. No one assumes that you are attractive, or somehow better than any other woman in their lives, simply because you are on the same site as them. Get a reality check. If you didn't make such a fucking big deal about you and your women-only clan, no one would have known or cared. Your feminazi ways are clearly evident as you seek to segregate yourself and others from us as if we are some mutants with a contagious disease called hormonal urges. Guess what? You need us just as much as we need you on this planet, stop acting like it's anything other than that. Self-righteous bitch. Hope you find a future in journalism! In the Stargals thread... | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
ive been here with an account for like 4 years now and haven't gotten so much as a warning. Knock on wood and so on :D actually i think i did get a warning but it wasnt for posting, i used the report feature to try and defend day9's honour, but the system told me it didnt like that | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On September 19 2010 00:51 synapse wrote: Don't know what he was temp-banned for, but I thought it was pretty funny He's still working on "a." | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
I most certainly wont be doing that again soon | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On September 20 2010 08:32 arb wrote: Being banned is not fun. I most certainly wont be doing that again soon welcome back it seems that you have caused this thread to vindicate itself. What an odd paradox. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
He finished above half the field, including iNcontroL. I learned nothing from the ban. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 20 2010 08:37 infinitestory wrote: welcome back it seems that you have caused this thread to vindicate itself. What an odd paradox. like i said in the automated ban list thread, the urge to make that post after pokebunny reminded me of what i did was just too great to handle, even though i knew id be banned for it | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 19 2010 00:51 synapse wrote: Don't know what he was temp-banned for, but I thought it was pretty funny If you know who he is, that post that you quoted is very true =p | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
AND having posted in seveeral homework threads AFTER my temp ban was over, and they weren't closed or anything. So still pissed off about that. | ||
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
On September 20 2010 08:55 Hawk wrote: If you know who he is, that post that you quoted is very true =p It's a paradox cause this is BM, but if it is BM then a. is BM meaning what we thought was true isn't true so it's not bm but he was still temp banned for BMing meaning that this is making my head hurt. Yo dawg- Please stay out of this. (honestly, I don't know much other than what he said is true as far as I know) or am I BMing? | ||
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FALAPARK
United States224 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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jon arbuckle
Canada443 Posts
On September 17 2010 23:53 Grobyc wrote: When I had like 500 posts I posted an over 9000 joke and got a week ban on the spot(it was quite a fitting occasion though tbh). One of my favourite things - top three probably - about TL is the inveterate intolerance for self-expression through thoroughly diluted and dull memes. Otherwise, because I don't contribute anything to the site and therefore don't think it owes me anything, I try to include something of substance in any post where I feel like I'm going to rattle off invective, which more or less tempers the fucks. I think. | ||
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
On Topic: do Bans work? we should ask Charlie Murphy when hes back :D | ||
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FALAPARK
United States224 Posts
On September 20 2010 10:29 Ojahh wrote: I dont get you people, if you think you're post is probably gone get you banned/warned, then don't post it, whatever it is. I can slightly understand it if somebody has written a, in his mind, well argumented long text and thinks well it might piss people of, but I want this opinion out there, but only a few words to take a swing at the mods? its technically none of my business, but there is few more of these posts in this thread, and right now I fell the urge task you why you would do something like that, it boggles my mind. yea u are right, but u i like having fun, i take TL very siriously though. i dont really expect to get banned or warn, but i'd laugh if i do because i didnt offend anyone i just spoke my mind, and this is america right? | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On September 20 2010 10:41 FALAPARK wrote: yea u are right, but u i like having fun, i take TL very siriously though. i dont really expect to get banned or warn, but i'd laugh if i do because i didnt offend anyone i just spoke my mind, and this is america right? no, this is TL | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
yeah should check out commandment #1 there sir | ||
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
On September 20 2010 09:50 FALAPARK wrote: what i learned from bans is that TL MODS are very sensitive o.o ima get warned for this watch! User was temp banned for this post. See, now, I'm not sure if this was for insulting the mods, or just as a joke to mess with him. I'm very confused. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote: No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm or b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people. yeah and sometimes they fail to do b and get banned again for the 10th time | ||
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
On September 20 2010 10:41 FALAPARK wrote: yea u are right, but u i like having fun, i take TL very siriously though. i dont really expect to get banned or warn, but i'd laugh if i do because i didnt offend anyone i just spoke my mind, and this is america right? nudge, nudge, hint, hint, blink This is their house. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 20 2010 15:19 boesthius wrote: naw it was just for being a martyr. we don't take too kindly to martyr's 'round these parts. fastest way to get banned is to say. Watch imma get banned for this. | ||
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
Like they actually follow most of the commandments...they're more like guidelines. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On September 20 2010 15:36 semantics wrote: fastest way to get banned is to say. Watch imma get banned for this. Yeah I can hardly imagine a post that would fly when prefaced by 'watch imma get banned for this' You could be posting a final edit quality thing about how Reach is cool and still get banned. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 20 2010 09:10 HeavOnEarth wrote: Lawl. i got banned for not knowing homework threads are allowed. YET having previous homework threads with no warning AND having posted in seveeral homework threads AFTER my temp ban was over, and they weren't closed or anything. So still pissed off about that. Actually, you had created several homework threads that were closed BEFORE you were banned. And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope). Not to mention you've had a few other warnings/bans as well. Usually our trigger fingers are a bit itchier on people with a bad record. So, yeah. Yours was pretty justified whether you believe so or not. On September 18 2010 03:11 mOnion wrote: ETT banned me twice, once for a week and the other was for 3 months I think. been good ever since ^_^ It was 30 days, plus we spoke on iccup like right after I think. And yeah, your posting improved a LOT after that I think (although you still managed to get a couple warnings ^^) On September 18 2010 03:52 WiljushkA wrote: dunno if it set me straight, but i learned that some people have no idea what's 4chan, and sometimes wont tell you what post they banned you for. Sometimes we'll say "4chan" as the ban reason, but we're really refering to overused/irritating/annoying memes (which usually gain popularity on 4chan). That's what happened in your case. On September 18 2010 06:22 CheeseGrater wrote: Or the mod is biased and in a bad mood and they never deserved the temp ban in the first place Yeah, because you DEFINITELY weren't out of line after a mod simply closed your thread: ----------------------------------------- Original Message: You really had to close the thread about the deaf man in the mall? This video should be as public as possible, you are not doing anything to help the situation by lowering the amount of people that see it. Just because people are having a heated discussion is no reason to close a thread. Stop abusing your mod powers and get a clue. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Ending a repeal for a thread-closure with an insult is a very effective tactic. I will certainly reconsider closing that garbage thread. Thanks for your feedback. ----------------------------------------- Garbage thread? Just because people were correcting a bigot making fun of the handicapped in the comments? You deserve to be insulted because its a terrible decision. Have fun being a dick mod in the future. As usual, this ban was 100% warranted/justified. Get off the high horse. IF a ban is made that isn't justified, other mods/admins will generally jump on it immediately, the person will be unbanned, and an apology made. This happens very rarely because, to be honest, most bans are spot-on. On September 18 2010 08:42 tomatriedes wrote: I wish I could see my mod notes. Somehow I get the feeling that one or two mods must have come really close to (at least) temp-banning me at some point. ;; You're clean, no notes. On September 20 2010 15:52 Melancholia wrote: Like they actually follow most of the commandments...they're more like guidelines. Guidelines you should definitely heed. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On September 20 2010 16:01 Coagulation wrote: i always log on and get super excited when i see the little yellow NEW icon at top cause someone on tl.net sent me a pm yay! and then find out its tl.net bot telling me im a crappy poster. Yeah that happened to me like three times in 4 days.. | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. Wanted to bring this post back up, I laughed so hard. I've never been banned from a forum but I did get kicked from chat during Day9's launch party. The mod that kicked me has not been a mod since, so I think my beef with him was justified. But at any rate, I try to play nice in all of the threads in which I feel confident enough to post. Any time I feel the need to post a rebuttal, I really think about what I'll say. Then I tend to post Smilies to soften the blow. This behavior travels with me to all forums I use.  | ||
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Rozza
United Kingdom45 Posts
while those of us with the dubious distinction of being banned are either A: noobish B: Have noobish opinions C: Have good opinions that are expressed in a noobish manner D: All of the above (is that possible?) But, that said, we, also hold a place in the mod's hearts since collectivley, we are that 'rebellious child' which the teacher secretly admires, and we post noobishly sometimes to dilute the monotony of the sycophants!! Yes this is a biased opinion Yes I HAVE been temp banned Side note: being a fairly new poster, and experienced lurker, why do i see so many ppl being ressurected from permabans? EDIT: Glaring example of sychophantic behaviour mentioned above http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154429 I being a cynic personally find it slightly insincere, or if sincere then very very sickly | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed. in short, sometimes I feel like being honest and not idiotic/hypocritical like a lot of people here can really bite you in the ass. you can get banned for simply stating your honest opinion, even if you don't flame others etc. in the progress and try to argue reasonably. I also got banned for literally calling someone a "fucking idiot" or something like that, and I totally understand that since I asked for the ban in the post (but that guy deserved it, and I think I never did it again after that). But then sometimes I really don't understand why I was banned instead of warned. Or when I was banned not for one or two days, no, like a week or two. That just really hurts. Like, it doesn't make you angry or something, it's just like a mod is trying to tell me: "Please get the fuck out of our forums, we don't like you, we don't want you here". Especially when you get banned for a post which intended no harm. edit: oops I forgot a part of my post. So in terms of "getting set straight". Well, I think more active about my choice of words right now and also I have some occasions where I write some lengthy post, like at least 1000 words+, then read through it and I'm like "better not post that, some moderator might read something into my post which I didn't intend" and just delete the post and leave it at that. That's not exaggerating or something, but sometimes I really get worried that I'm going to be banned again lol. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Actually, you had created several homework threads that were closed BEFORE you were banned. And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope). Not to mention you've had a few other warnings/bans as well. Usually our trigger fingers are a bit itchier on people with a bad record. So, yeah. Yours was pretty justified whether you believe so or not. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=87622 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=81080 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=79163 Previous warnings about other things 0 bans. Im not dropping this until at least one mod takes the time and effort to actually look into my history. Look- You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment. Furthermore, this was the thread i got banned for, the only thread that was closed and im supposedly supposed to know they aren't allowed. And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope). No? I can list dozens of homework help threads that mods have POSTED in that weren't closed. How the fuck am i supposed to know. (if u want me to literally spend hours lookin them all up I don't mind at all.) You have been temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. Reason: 3800+ posts and you still copy/paste a homework thread. You've made several homework threads before, and we've closed them all. Hopefully you learn in these two weeks not to do this again. Next time it's 30 days. Do not attempt to circumvent this ban by making a new account, or your ban duration will be increased. My actual ban warning No, i NEVER knew that homework threads were not allowed. IF you had banned me for being a martyr or being BM in the last thread, sure i dont't care at all, but you(mods) specifically banned me for something i honestly didn't know, and how was i expected to know. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope). you missed my point ENTIRELY. i used it as an example of why i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed. + Show Spoiler [my reply over a year ago] + Original Message: HeavOnEarth was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. That account was created on 2008-03-03 15:36:23 and had 3830 posts. Reason: 3800+ posts and you still copy/paste a homework thread. You've made several homework threads before, and we've closed them all. Hopefully you learn in these two weeks not to do this again. Next time it's 30 days. No? All of my homework threads thus far have never been closed, so i don't know where your several homework threads came from to be honest. (these are from my blogs) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79163 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=81080 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=87622 However, Manifesto told me (before you promptly banned me) , no more homework threads, which i pm'd him back, Ok , i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed and that was the end of that. You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment. You have been temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. Reason: I know you were warned, but your behavior in that thread is too bad for me to ignore. The previous ban you gave me, says absolutely nothing about homework, so yes, excuse me for not knowing that homework threads aren't allowed. I mean i literally post and help people from dozens of homework threads, check my posting history of you want or u can simply just type in "homework" in the sesarch function and see that nearly all of them are still open. Did i anger you in the past or something? I know im on shaky ground with Chill and a Rage, but i doubt i ever said anything to you, and if i did i apologize- it wasn't intentional. So to sum it up, i think a 2 week ban is a bit much, and hopefully i've convinced you i honestly- did not know homework threads were not allowed- as i've seen several open, and all of my homework threads thus far have never been closed. Also, thanks for reducing the ban, although i don't think it does any good, this mafia game was very few people and will probably end shortly, but i do appeiciate the sentiment. my reply to hot_bid which he ignored, skimmed over or didn't care about. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
That alone might tell you something about me @ rage Fuck you @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. @ hot_bid, the guy who banned me Im not sure why you didn't look this over thoroughly, but it was just i held such high standards of you as a poster/moderator , quite frankly im envious of you as a person, so it was to my huge disappointment/confusion that you didn't see or even attempt to see any of my points. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:29 HeavOnEarth wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 I had completely forgotten who you are until now. You probably shouldn't have included that for everyone to see. EDIT: Oh, no wonder you got so high without exposing your crap elsewhere. LoL kid. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:33 HeavOnEarth wrote: @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. All of Team Liquid are my children. Except Shauni. And micronesia is only a step child. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:33 HeavOnEarth wrote: I dont even know how long its been(2 years?) since that ban but im still FURIOUS over it, and i never knew until i posted in this thread that i was still steaming over it. That alone might tell you something about me @ rage Fuck you @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. @ hot_bid, the guy who banned me Im not sure why you didn't look this over thoroughly, but it was just i held such high standards of you as a poster/moderator , quite frankly im envious of you as a person, so it was to my huge disappointment/confusion that you didn't see or even attempt to see any of my points. So what you are saying is that you are in fact 12? | ||
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
This IS the best community ever!! | ||
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dranjam
Poland198 Posts
I used to be dickhead messing around on forums, used to be a mod too, think this changed coz of age, not coz of amount of bans I got/given. I just can't put up with argueing with people over the internet anymore. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:22 Rozza wrote: Banning promotes sychophantic behaviour amongst those who have never been, and never wish to be banned (read: teachers pet) while those of us with the dubious distinction of being banned are either A: noobish B: Have noobish opinions C: Have good opinions that are expressed in a noobish manner D: All of the above (is that possible?) But, that said, we, also hold a place in the mod's hearts since collectivley, we are that 'rebellious child' which the teacher secretly admires, and we post noobishly sometimes to dilute the monotony of the sycophants!! Yes this is a biased opinion Yes I HAVE been temp banned Side note: being a fairly new poster, and experienced lurker, why do i see so many ppl being ressurected from permabans? EDIT: Glaring example of sychophantic behaviour mentioned above http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154429 I being a cynic personally find it slightly insincere, or if sincere then very very sickly You have an anti-authoritarian streak to go along with that cynicism? (want to know further the bias there) Just asking, because in any society or social group, unless you're the anarchist type, a semblance of order and/or organization is always required, thus the need for mods to tell our less-witty colleagues in the forums that their behavior is as you describe to be as A or B. The older (5k posts and higher) people in the forum have a larger leeway in getting back on the forum after a perma-ban; not because they'll shape up, but because they've contributed something to the community. Less posts and less constructive content overall mean you're less valued and if you do step out of line by acting stupidly, you're more liable to be whacked. So going back to my original query; more people are posting image macros and not getting warned. It's a disturbing trend, especially if it becomes the meme-generating type of pic, and people are getting away with it. more often | ||
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On September 20 2010 23:29 HeavOnEarth wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=87622 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=81080 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=79163 Previous warnings about other things 0 bans. Im not dropping this until at least one mod takes the time and effort to actually look into my history. Look- You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment. Furthermore, this was the thread i got banned for, the only thread that was closed and im supposedly supposed to know they aren't allowed. No? I can list dozens of homework help threads that mods have POSTED in that weren't closed. How the fuck am i supposed to know. (if u want me to literally spend hours lookin them all up I don't mind at all.) My actual ban warning No, i NEVER knew that homework threads were not allowed. IF you had banned me for being a martyr or being BM in the last thread, sure i dont't care at all, but you(mods) specifically banned me for something i honestly didn't know, and how was i expected to know. you missed my point ENTIRELY. i used it as an example of why i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed. + Show Spoiler [my reply over a year ago] + Original Message: HeavOnEarth was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. That account was created on 2008-03-03 15:36:23 and had 3830 posts. Reason: 3800+ posts and you still copy/paste a homework thread. You've made several homework threads before, and we've closed them all. Hopefully you learn in these two weeks not to do this again. Next time it's 30 days. No? All of my homework threads thus far have never been closed, so i don't know where your several homework threads came from to be honest. (these are from my blogs) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79163 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=81080 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=87622 However, Manifesto told me (before you promptly banned me) , no more homework threads, which i pm'd him back, Ok , i didn't know homework threads weren't allowed and that was the end of that. You've closed ONE thread of mine (which wasn't homework), the one about programming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94180 which i assumed was for my behavior in the thread, which is understandable and i agree with that - my behavior was bad. you never said you closed it because it was a "homework thread", which it wasn't. and quote Also, let it be known, some moderater changed the thread to "Homework thread" to spite me, it was never a homework assignment. You have been temp banned for 2 weeks by Hot_Bid. Reason: I know you were warned, but your behavior in that thread is too bad for me to ignore. The previous ban you gave me, says absolutely nothing about homework, so yes, excuse me for not knowing that homework threads aren't allowed. I mean i literally post and help people from dozens of homework threads, check my posting history of you want or u can simply just type in "homework" in the sesarch function and see that nearly all of them are still open. Did i anger you in the past or something? I know im on shaky ground with Chill and a Rage, but i doubt i ever said anything to you, and if i did i apologize- it wasn't intentional. So to sum it up, i think a 2 week ban is a bit much, and hopefully i've convinced you i honestly- did not know homework threads were not allowed- as i've seen several open, and all of my homework threads thus far have never been closed. Also, thanks for reducing the ban, although i don't think it does any good, this mafia game was very few people and will probably end shortly, but i do appeiciate the sentiment. my reply to hot_bid which he ignored, skimmed over or didn't care about. Oh wow, you seriously amazed me here. You didn't just make a homework thread. That's the first thing you did, and it got closed. After that you did the following: You borrowed your account to a friend of yours so he could make a homework thread. When his question was solved but he actually didn't understand anything (if you understood anything of what he had to say you would've realized like all the other people in that thread), he started flaming people. The sad part is you still don't realize you're in no place to complain. Your first of all had nothing to do with the programming so don't even understand what he was asking for or how retarded the discussion was that ensued. But still even then, you should at least realize you shared your account to let a friend abuse your reputation on this website to get homework help, while flaming staff members that actually provided immediate help (if he had any understanding of the theory he would've understood) to his completely wrongful request. On September 20 2010 23:33 HeavOnEarth wrote: I dont even know how long its been(2 years?) since that ban but im still FURIOUS over it, and i never knew until i posted in this thread that i was still steaming over it. That alone might tell you something about me Are you really saying you should've gotten away with that? You're either very stubborn or very closed minded. You actually got a super lenient ban after all that. @ rage Fuck you @ chill Thanks for your understanding of me throughout the years i've posted. Even though you probably hated me as a poster you always acted objectively. I can completely understand you taking your friends side (rage) in the thread i got banned and to be honest i've always thought of you as somewhat of an internet father figure. @ hot_bid, the guy who banned me Im not sure why you didn't look this over thoroughly, but it was just i held such high standards of you as a poster/moderator , quite frankly im envious of you as a person, so it was to my huge disappointment/confusion that you didn't see or even attempt to see any of my points. Yeah dude, everyone was just taking their friend's side, it's not that the people you always respected for being objective were actually being objective. Oh yeah, and all the other people (literally every single poster) that posted in that thread and understood what was posted realized just how wrong you were. Reread the thread please. How can you even expect people not to think you're retarded after all this? I actually thought up till now that you were just too stubborn to apologize, but this is just on a whole other level. | ||
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semantics
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On September 21 2010 01:34 RaGe wrote: Oh wow, you seriously amazed me here. You didn't just make a homework thread. That's the first thing you did, and it got closed. After that you did the following: You borrowed your account to a friend of yours so he could make a homework thread. When his question was solved but he actually didn't understand anything (if you understood anything of what he had to say you would've realized like all the other people in that thread), he started flaming people. The sad part is you still don't realize you're in no place to complain. Your first of all had nothing to do with the programming so don't even understand what he was asking for or how retarded the discussion was that ensued. But still even then, you should at least realize you shared your account to let a friend abuse your reputation on this website to get homework help, while flaming staff members that actually provided immediate help (if he had any understanding of the theory he would've understood) to his completely wrongful request. Are you really saying you should've gotten away with that? You're either very stubborn or very closed minded. You actually got a super lenient ban after all that. Yeah dude, everyone was just taking their friend's side, it's not that the people you always respected for being objective were actually being objective. Oh yeah, and all the other people (literally every single poster) that posted in that thread and understood what was posted realized just how wrong you were. Reread the thread please. How can you even expect people not to think you're retarded after all this? I actually thought up till now that you were just too stubborn to apologize, but this is just on a whole other level. Can you at least be a little nonbiased. I wasn't banned for any of that i was banned for not knowing homework threads were allowed.(which i didn't). Ive said before that i would not care at all if i was banned any of the things you just listed. (which i wasn't) It's simple why im mad really, you guys 1) change the title of my thread so everyone is biased against me, and gets the wrong impression 2) ban me without listening to anything i have to say(also note that i actually convinced chill or someone to let me off with a warning, but then hot_bid bans me out of the blue , he didnt post in the thread once) 3) talk shit after im banned in the thread after u close it. How can you even expect people not to think you're retarded after all this? I actually thought up till now that you were just too stubborn to apologize, but this is just on a whole other level. ironic you should say this. Are you really saying you should've gotten away with that? You're either very stubborn or very closed minded. You actually got a super lenient ban after all that. jesus christ im not saying this at all just change my ban to: a) being stupid and needs to grow up b) loaning account to friend c) disrespecting a moderator( you in particular) give me another 2 weeks so its a month( sounds appropriate?) and take out that load of shit about "omg homework thread" and change my thread title back to what it was. You dont see me for 2 weeks and i at least get the rightful ban. win win. im so sick of moderators saying "LOL U HAD HW THREAD", because they read the title "Homework thread" that was changed by a moderator Yeah dude, everyone was just taking their friend's side, it's not that the people you always respected for being objective were actually being objective. because i was implying they weren't being objective? (this is sarcasm btw if you didnt pick it up) You're the only person i have beef with. period. Shit i even remember how abrasive you were being , without being provoked at all, whcih lead to my friend blowing up, because you were being a grade A asshole, which the other moderators agreed on... At the end i tried to offer something friendly and peaceful like challenging you to a grudge show-match(we were both C+ at the time..), in which you basically shit on my face and decline. So yes, i think i have a good reason to be mad. | ||
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On September 21 2010 00:29 Murderotica wrote: So what you are saying is that you are in fact 12? As a point of reference i'm 18, and probably 15-16 when i made that thread. =/ | ||
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CheeseGrater
United States290 Posts
On September 21 2010 02:48 thespitfire wrote: i got banned from brood war strat for bad gramma, surely that was unfair OMG! You forgot the "r" in "grammar." Can someone ban this guy please? | ||
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JackMcCoy
165 Posts
i dont think your "permanent TL record" really matters, whether it says "banned for being a homework thread noob" or "banned for being obnoxious loudmouth". you were banned for homework threads, which aren't allowed on TL, which you should know. just because the homework threads you made before didn't happen to get closed doesn't justify them in the long run, you cant use your past crimes to act as some sort of precedent for your future fuck ups. and from the looks of it you had 3800 posts when you made that homework thread (dont pretend like its not, its so damn obvious from the OP) so there's no excuse for you not knowing what their rules were. imo you owe rage an apology for being a jackass, not a "fuck you" because you're all indignant about some perceived slight that doesn't hold any relevance or weight outside of your own twisted interpretation of events. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
It matters to me, because of Evilteletubby's response which is what ill get from anyone ever. And jesus christ , no i honestly did not know they weren't allowed. (dont pretend like its not, its so damn obvious from the OP) ? | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote: sometimes I got banned for really stupid reasons I think. I don't remember exactly. But I got banned a couple of times for one post where I used too many foul words or for QQing too much. What upset me most about that was that I was basically banned when I had one big post where I QQed a lot, but most of my other posts are usually pretty large and I try to contribute a lot and actually bring arguments tot he table instead of just baseless QQing, whereas others just have no idea how discussion works and just hammer you down with their silly points and logical fallacies and endless QQing, yet none of them get banned. my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed. in short, sometimes I feel like being honest and not idiotic/hypocritical like a lot of people here can really bite you in the ass. you can get banned for simply stating your honest opinion, even if you don't flame others etc. in the progress and try to argue reasonably. I also got banned for literally calling someone a "fucking idiot" or something like that, and I totally understand that since I asked for the ban in the post (but that guy deserved it, and I think I never did it again after that). But then sometimes I really don't understand why I was banned instead of warned. Or when I was banned not for one or two days, no, like a week or two. That just really hurts. Like, it doesn't make you angry or something, it's just like a mod is trying to tell me: "Please get the fuck out of our forums, we don't like you, we don't want you here". Especially when you get banned for a post which intended no harm. edit: oops I forgot a part of my post. So in terms of "getting set straight". Well, I think more active about my choice of words right now and also I have some occasions where I write some lengthy post, like at least 1000 words+, then read through it and I'm like "better not post that, some moderator might read something into my post which I didn't intend" and just delete the post and leave it at that. That's not exaggerating or something, but sometimes I really get worried that I'm going to be banned again lol. I looked through your mod notes and I honestly don't think you have much to complain about.. This post got you your first ban. It was neither calm, mannered nor on topic. Also, it was 2 days instead of 2 weeks. Not sure how that made you so upset.. maybe you thought you got banned for another post? We didn't have the red text messages back then that make it clear which post got you banned. Your 3 other bans were completely justified as well. A 2 day ban for calling someone a fucking idiot and stating yourself that it'd get you banned, a 1 week ban for calling Americans "really fucking retarded sometimes" while you had gotten 2 warnings just the day before and another 1 week ban for posting an ASCII facepalm pic (that would normally get you a 2 day ban, but you already had 2 bans and 4 warnings). Also, you tried dodging that last ban by creating a new account and we were apparently nice enough not to extend the ban on your main account! All in all, I'd say we treated you very fairly.. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On September 21 2010 02:48 thespitfire wrote: i got banned from brood war strat for bad gramma, surely that was unfair If you still have the warning PM in your inbox you should re-check it, you actually weren't banned from the strategy forum for bad grammar but rather for an one-liner that wasn't up to the strategy forum standards. The moderator who handed out the ban merely gave you a friendly tip that putting some more effort in to how you write would be beneficial in the future, but it wasn't the reason for the ban. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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JackMcCoy
165 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:00 HeavOnEarth wrote: Why the hell would i owe rage the apology, he's the one who instigated the whole event, took a huge dump on my thread and talked a load of shit about me when i was banned and couldn't reply at all. i would apologize to any moderator, any poster because ,obviously, i did fuck up in that thread with various things, but i would never apologize to that fucking piece of shit. because he actually helped you (or that other kid i dont know who is who) and you (or he) were too dumb to see it, and instead decided to aggrivate the situation by saying stupid things like you were going to "rape some BM'ing assholes" (page 1). here's some "thread facts" 1) rage was right in that thread (and mildly abrasive but thats understandable when the OP is retarded) 2) the situation there got worse because of your shitty attitude and defensiveness after u got embarrassed by the ppl who knew what they were talking about. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
can you at least see why im upset? everyone who is going to read that thread is going to immediately shit on me, because 1) thread title was changed 2) my friend made the posts that you're reading, ""rape some BM assholes" in particular =/ 3) i couldnt explain any of this because thread locked/ me banned and then rage makes some claims against me that arent true, which i cant disprove because i cant post anything. | ||
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
On September 18 2010 01:58 Murderotica wrote: Hot_bid = baller REALLYYYY ;o. well actually if that's true it doesnt surprise me TOO much. because hot_bid is a huge baller. but he told me as of late he hasnt had time to browse the forums o.o | ||
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JackMcCoy
165 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:07 HeavOnEarth wrote: Sigh that wasn't me =/ can you at least see why im upset? everyone who is going to read that thread is going to immediately shit on me, because 1) thread title was changed 2) my friend made the posts that you're reading, ""rape some BM assholes" in particular =/ 3) i couldnt explain any of this because thread locked/ me banned and then rage makes some claims against me that arent true, which i cant disprove because i cant post anything. i think if you're upset at anything, it should be at this "friend" who took a big shit while on your account, not at rage who had to deal with him. also: whats the big issue with it being called "homework thread" if thats what it is? if I make a thread about TLO getting chickenpox but call it "TLO playing with fowl attitude", im not going to be all upset if a mod gives it a more appropriate title. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
1) My friend posts 2) rage rages for no reason at all 3) my friend shittalks him 4) rage shittalks me, bans my friend closes my thread and blames all the shit my friend did on me (by posting garbage at the end of the thread that has nothing to do with me, or false accusations against me), and probably changed my thread title. 5) i offer an apology and challenge rage to a friendly grudge match 6) rage declines 7) i walk away without saying anything after my 2 week ban | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I'm just posting here because apparently he expects a full discussion before he gets banned. Nevermind he said "fuck you" to a moderator and was otherwise completely abrasive about something incredibly retarded. I'ma give you a couple hours to clarify.. that's how fucking HeaveOnEarth approved of a moderator I am | ||
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JackMcCoy
165 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:26 HeavOnEarth wrote: 2) rage rages for no reason at all that line alone says to me that you still don't understand what happened at all. gl with your extra weeks banned, hopefully by the time its done you'll realize rage was never the problem in that thread. l8r dude. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
its seriously all i want the first reply i get from a mod is this "Actually, you had created several homework threads that were closed BEFORE you were banned. No And if something remained open, it could be that it was different than yours and not just a generic homework help thread, or that it was missed. Don't go all "well why can HE get away with it!" on us, you're not fucking 12 (I hope). It wasn't Not to mention you've had a few other warnings/bans as well. Usually our trigger fingers are a bit itchier on people with a bad record. i didnt have any previous bans So, yeah. Yours was pretty justified whether you believe so or not." for the wrong reasons! | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:31 JackMcCoy wrote: that line alone says to me that you still don't understand what happened at all. gl with your extra weeks banned, hopefully by the time its done you'll realize rage was never the problem in that thread. l8r dude. please explain ? Even chill posted Yes I agree Rage escillated it unprovoked. Yes, Rage should have been more forgiving and not attacked you/your friend User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
You literally "let a friend" post on your name like a fucking jack ass. Be a man and except the consequences for which YOU allowed to happen. How you can be so uptight about the clarification over this as if we as moderators are obligated to 100% take the word of each ass-hat that gets banned "oh it wasn't you? It was someone else on your account? Ah ok, we will just ban you anyways but make sure to clarify that you had a 'friend' posting instead." Seriously? I can't outright ban... it has to be suggested and then approved. That said saying "fuck you" to a guy who works for free for this website and contributes on a daily basis because he felt the ban was justified is pretty bad. Being a general inflammatory dick and completely dominating this thread with your terrible sob-story about how unjustified you were treated when YOU LET YOUR FRIEND POST ON YOUR NAME AND BE A DICK is completely unacceptable. To make it worse you "martyred" yourself by starting to ask for a ban extension for something 2 years old to "set the record straight" I will make sure and include your request in the ban. When you get back: If you have a problem with moderation leave the "fuck yous" out of it.. or is a 5 year old posting on your name now? Also: Don't take the martyring attitude here. We aren't amused and it proves nothing. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
At least the honourable incontrol set the record straight! LET THE TRUTH PREVAIL. SUNSHINEEEEEEE | ||
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semantics
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
As I know this thread has stated a good many times, the sad reality is that most people who are dumb are still dumb (or worse) after their ban. But bans, especially temporary ones, serve as a nice time-out and reality check to the more sensible posters--something the moderators on this forum understand. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
0) You seem like the kind of dude who gets irrational when he gets emotional. That's fine, you just need to be aware of this. If you feel yourself getting mad, maybe you shouldn't type a reply until you can think straight again. 1) You opened several threads about schoolwork. We group those together as "homework threads". You seem upset because technically it's not homework, it's just something brought up at school or through extracurriculars or something. That's stupid. Don't be an idiot fighting to the death over a technicality: "It's not homework it's exam review" or something. You get the point we're making when we call them homework threads, even if it's not definitively homework. 2) If you give someone your account, you are responsible for what they write. There is no debating this. So, moving forward, let's ignore the fact that it was your friend because it's erroneous to the discussion. In my eyes (everything forward can be preceded by "in my opinion" since it's all subjective), Rage was overly aggressive in his first reply. That's probably because you are a bad poster. Bad posters get less respect. Were it me, I wouldn't have been that aggressive; however, the way you(r friend) reacted makes Rage's reply completely justified. An analogy: a) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You don't respond and continue talking to your friends. He ends up looking stupid and everyone looks down on him. b) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You respond in some equal fashion in line with his insult. People look up to you for defending yourself and he ends up looking stupid. c) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You take a baseball bat out of your truck and chase him. You end up looking stupid and everyone looks down on you. The line of action you took was "c". Next time, try to take "a" or at least"b". | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On September 21 2010 02:59 vGl-CoW wrote: I looked through your mod notes and I honestly don't think you have much to complain about.. This post got you your first ban. It was neither calm, mannered nor on topic. Also, it was 2 days instead of 2 weeks. Not sure how that made you so upset.. maybe you thought you got banned for another post? We didn't have the red text messages back then that make it clear which post got you banned. Your 3 other bans were completely justified as well. A 2 day ban for calling someone a fucking idiot and stating yourself that it'd get you banned, a 1 week ban for calling Americans "really fucking retarded sometimes" while you had gotten 2 warnings just the day before and another 1 week ban for posting an ASCII facepalm pic (that would normally get you a 2 day ban, but you already had 2 bans and 4 warnings). Also, you tried dodging that last ban by creating a new account and we were apparently nice enough not to extend the ban on your main account! All in all, I'd say we treated you very fairly.. yes you're right. my memory was totally off on that first one. I'm probably thinking about some other ban on an older account which I stopped using when I changed my nick to heishe everywhere. still that ban was weird. even reading it now the post clearly sounds comical (since I capslocked barbar and nobody ever uses that as an insult), it must've been when I first started posting and didn't realize that it was not a smart idea to post that kind of jokey post. I guess my ban on heishe wasn't extended after I created a new account because of what I posted. Some guy was asking if it would be possible to implement a mass-observer tool or something with which one could observer tournament games etc, and I was itching to tell him that something like that already exists (waaaghtv in WC3). by the way what also made me sad when manifesto told me that I seem to be taking a monthly dump on the forums I put a lot of effort into my posts usually.maybe it wasn't justified to say it the way I did, but some people really are .... you know what I mean sometimes. people there were clearly saying: jokes about nazis and hitler and jews are hilarious and totally OK, but jokes about 9/11 are clearly not ok and absolutely not funny, the excuse being that one has happened in younger memory than the other, which makes no sense at all. when I see that kind of ignorance I just go mad for 1 minute and it results in posts like that (also with calling the guy a fucking idiot after he said that b-teamers etc. had no right to complain about their working conditions since they play videogames as a job) . But anyways, that's long over. but you're right, those bans were more or less deserved. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:19 Jyvblamo wrote: I was banned only once, waaay back in 2006 for making possibly one of the most retarded threads ever. Now I almost never make new threads haha. My rule now to making threads is if you're not opening up an external text editor to make the thread you're probably not trying hard enough or the topic isn't good enough for a thread. I wonder if there is a bbcode text editor that works well enough to be close enough to tl bbcode that or an editor that would except custom formats with a little set up. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
also, chill has probably closed at least 3-6 garbage threads of mine, and looking back I'm glad he did. I wouldn't say i've ever been a problem poster, but I try now to be a lot better then i was back when i started... Hey, I even got the first featured thread for SC2! (the attempted debunking of the fast queen build being insta-win after 2009 blizzcon) | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:30 besiger wrote: Never been banned, as far as I can recall I have never been warned either, I guess im just too boring and fly under the radar not everyone need to be a drama queen and center of attention, raging and crap nor can everyone be a top contributer writing riveting stories about pro starcraft. Somebody has to be the good intention well mannered fan :D | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:36 heishe wrote: my first ban I got was for "ruining a good thread". I was banned by kennigit, and I remember being really really upset about it. Like genuinely sad / angry that I was banned for my post. I don't exactly remember the post in question, but it was a thread about something and I posted something in a calm and mannered fashion which was actually on topic as far as I remember, but Ken disagreed with me and banned me for two weeks. Yes, not one, but two weeks. And that was my first ban I ever got. I was like really close to never ever visiting this forum again. That really upset me a lot. Not in a "omg these forum moderators are idiots" way, but more in a way that made me supersad and disappointed. Huh? It was two days: On May 12 2010 13:19 TL.net Bot wrote: heishe was just temp banned for 2 days by Kennigit. That account was created on 2009-06-29 18:10:03 and had 17 posts. The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here. Reason: Ruining a good thread. And your "well thought out" post was this: On May 09 2010 06:04 heishe wrote: boni is perfectly correct you BARBARS! ....... ? I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote: I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders. I prefer the term revisionist, thank you very much!! | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:24 Hawk wrote: I prefer the term revisionist, thank you very much!! I don't think they are memory deficiencies as much as subconscious (in some circumstances) attempts at justification and legitimization of your actions - much as in the way that it could occur in a crime tv show or something (misremembering a tragic instance for example). Anywho, I've been banned once for posting in one of those "post in here and you'll get banned" threads. Unfortunately, I didn't realize it at the time, but it was a pretty legit ban. Also, Chill wins. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote: Huh? It was two days: And your "well thought out" post was this: ....... ? I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders. It's actually ridiculous. They make up these insane stories when you can just open their mod notes and it links directly to the post they are banned for. Why would you lie about this? It's completely insane. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:22 semantics wrote: My rule now to making threads is if you're not opening up an external text editor to make the thread you're probably not trying hard enough or the topic isn't good enough for a thread. That's actually a pretty good rule. Here, have a ban for that. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:19 EvilTeletubby wrote: Huh? It was two days: And your "well thought out" post was this: ....... ? I swear I think there are some severe memory deficiencies going on with some of the repeat offenders here. Which would actually explain (quite well too) why they're repeat offenders. yes, I've already replied again a few posts above you in which I've stated that my memory was totally off. @chill I wasn't lying. That's how it was in my memory. As I said I'm probably thinking about another ban and connected those two in some way (I also overlooked the fact that it was 2 days, not 2 weeks when I checked my PMs [they're still all there]). | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
But my specific comment wasn't just directed at you individually, I've noticed a LOT of people feel anger/frustration and they're SO FAR OFF BASE it's just ridiculous, and you wonder if they're a capable, functioning human being. Just take a look at the past couple pages or so here to see what I mean. In many cases, people don't even understand why an action was taken against them, but we've made it clear as day: On September 21 2010 02:48 thespitfire wrote: i got banned from brood war strat for bad gramma, surely that was unfair From: TL.net Bot Subject: Warning!
It's like he didn't even read it. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3 I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these. | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:00 Chill wrote: An analogy: a) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You don't respond and continue talking to your friends. He ends up looking stupid and everyone looks down on him. b) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You respond in some equal fashion in line with his insult. People look up to you for defending yourself and he ends up looking stupid. c) You are walking down the street. Someone yells at you "Nice shirt, you faggot." You take a baseball bat out of your truck and chase him. You end up looking stupid and everyone looks down on you. chill you may not know me but you are one of my favorite people across all the harsh internet wastelands. give combat-ex a rematch in sc2?? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
i got tempd for a homework help thread also http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45888 | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:18 Grettin wrote: Seems like a decent thread for my question. Why in the hell posts like these aren't instantly banned, but only warned? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154536#3 I don't want to whine, but cmon, get a grip with posts like these. Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense. In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks! | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:38 EvilTeletubby wrote: Actually, when I first saw that post, I thought a warning was appropriate. Low post count user, probably doesn't 'know the ropes', and we'd get as much mileage out of a warning than we would a ban TBH. In most cases, a warning is absolutely appropriate if it's the first offense. In this case, this particular user has been warned about this exact same behavior before. I'm going to issue a ban. Thanks! Alrighty. Its good that at least one admin is checking people's 'background' in a cases like this. Props to you! | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:25 j4s wrote: chill you may not know me but you are one of my favorite people across all the harsh internet wastelands. give combat-ex a rematch in sc2?? No I already won! The score was settled! | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote: Alrighty. Its good that at least one admin is checking people's 'background' in a cases like this. Props to you! Personally, and I know this is true for nearly everyone else on the moderation team as well, we typically assess the type of corrective action that is going to be taken based on a few factors: 1) A person's tenure, and prior contributions, 2) Past corrective action, including how recent as well as how relevant to the current infraction, 3) The severity of the current infraction 4) A person's posting history (ie, is this a trend, or a one-off from a normally good poster?) 5) The current flow of the thread, what caused them to act a certain way, etc. All the while trying to make sure we're being fair and objective and not personally sucked in. Do we follow this 100% to the T? No, but we're pretty damn accurate with it, and mistakes are quickly pointed out and corrected. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better moderation team on the internet. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Now i imagine chill has a corkboard with like I win on one side then they loose on the other side. And puts up a  when he wins and the name of the person on the otherside. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 21 2010 06:49 EvilTeletubby wrote: Personally, and I know this is true for nearly everyone else on the moderation team as well, we typically assess the type of corrective action that is going to be taken based on a few factors: 1) A person's tenure, and prior contributions, 2) Past corrective action, including how recent as well as how relevant to the current infraction, 3) The severity of the current infraction 4) A person's posting history (ie, is this a trend, or a one-off from a normally good poster?) 5) The current flow of the thread, what caused them to act a certain way, etc. All the while trying to make sure we're being fair and objective and not personally sucked in. Do we follow this 100% to the T? No, but we're pretty damn accurate with it, and mistakes are quickly pointed out and corrected. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better moderation team on the internet. I'm glad to hear this, since i am enjoying this forum hella alot. Good work! | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
banlings aint shit compared to rek those where some scary times | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="RebirthOfLeGenD was just" "Automated Ban List" site:http://www.teamliquid.net/&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Getting good at search strings is quite useful | ||
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
On September 18 2010 06:09 arb wrote: After my first ban ive tried hard to not get banned again its worked so far though i deserved the first ban cause i called this dude a retarded fucking moron iirc On September 18 2010 07:16 arb wrote: cool story bro User was temp banned for this post. Epic. I learn how to behave in a forum here. Seriously. EDIT: I couldnt resist sorry lol On September 21 2010 05:51 heishe wrote: yes, I've already replied again a few posts above you in which I've stated that my memory was totally off. @chill I wasn't lying. That's how it was in my memory. As I said I'm probably thinking about another ban and connected those two in some way (I also overlooked the fact that it was 2 days, not 2 weeks when I checked my PMs [they're still all there]). Oh, that changes everything | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned Also why isn't there a show all posts feature of the automated ban list? That was useful for CTRL + Fing all my bans and laughing at the stupidity. R1CH took it away because it was jamming the site down. He also took away our "View Post History" button because I was using it on 20,000+ post users and TL would stop loading for EVERYONE while I pressed it hahaha | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ETT I am still very sad you never responded to my PM like 9 months ago about getting banned You mean, the thread that started off with you sending me a big PM, me not getting a chance to respond to it within 24 hours, then you calling me lazy? Which was ironic because the whole issue had to do with maturity levels.  But yeah, I remember that... I had sent a reply to the initial concern when I had a few moments. I know you had sent something back that was basically more of the same, and to be completely honest with you, I was just really busy with work and didn't have the chance to give you a proper reply. I had meant to reply when I had a chance, but after a week or so I just forgot. I remembered a little while later (maybe a couple weeks or so), but hadn't seen you reply again so I thought it was a dead issue (because again, it was just more of the same that I had already addressed). If you really want to re-hash any of it, let me know... | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
But it was deserved, so I can't complain. | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:21 Chill wrote: R1CH took it away because it was jamming the site down. He also took away our "View Post History" button because I was using it on 20,000+ post users and TL would stop loading for EVERYONE while I pressed it hahaha I actually prefer how post history is now. You don't have to deal with that annoying wait and huge scroll bar while posts are loading. This makes it a lot easier and more convenient to go through someone's history since you usually only need to see the last 20/50 posts of a user to get an idea anyways. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
... I've been banned once for trolling a strategy thread with non sense, and I thought I was right too... Something like mutas are useless in ZvP BW... Looking back from posts a while ago... Just lol. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56212¤tpage=2#29 Hopefully Chill wasn't a mod back then lol so i didn't even get a warning. That was quite funny ( Hawk yelling at me haha ). Nowadays i could have been be nuked or at least banned from the strategy forum :p I also like how Neo Sauron and FE builds have made all this discussion obsolete. Otherwise i think i have only got two warnings ( for a "first" post and a one liner "play protoss" ) Got banned once for one week by Kennigit because i wrote "Fuck you Blizzard" in a Kespa vs Gretech/Blizzard. I think it was quite harsh but i guess i should bitch less. I try to stay away from General because it is terrible and there are too many people bitching/trolling/posting non sense and since i'm not too fluent in English it is quite hard to make myself understood, or simply to make a good, long and argumented post. I think that arguing on General is dumb so i try to avoid threads related to religion / china / etc... because this is always the same thing. I try to post positive stuff even if it is mostly one liners ( been a bit bitching about terrans though ) | ||
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tru_power22
Canada385 Posts
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
And got a warning for posting in a dumb thread, but I did share those opinions Don't think the ban ou warning were unfair but I never regretted a post of mine or will not post because of the fear of being banned / warned (yes I did read the 10 commandments). And good thread =) | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:30 EvilTeletubby wrote: You mean, the thread that started off with you sending me a big PM, me not getting a chance to respond to it within 24 hours, then you calling me lazy? Which was ironic because the whole issue had to do with maturity levels. But yeah, I remember that... I had sent a reply to the initial concern when I had a few moments. I know you had sent something back that was basically more of the same, and to be completely honest with you, I was just really busy with work and didn't have the chance to give you a proper reply. I had meant to reply when I had a chance, but after a week or so I just forgot. I remembered a little while later (maybe a couple weeks or so), but hadn't seen you reply again so I thought it was a dead issue (because again, it was just more of the same that I had already addressed). If you really want to re-hash any of it, let me know... lol nah I was joking around. I have long since gotten over that. Everyone in that thread replay was being an asshole I was just annoyed I got banned and no one else did. But upon rereading I was more aggressive then I remember being, but its all good. Also your lazy ;P | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:21 Chill wrote: R1CH took it away because it was jamming the site down. He also took away our "View Post History" button because I was using it on 20,000+ post users and TL would stop loading for EVERYONE while I pressed it hahaha lol thats awesomely disappointing actually. I used to get bored and go to the Automated ban list and just read the best of kennigit and of course best of chill<3 | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 21 2010 09:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Also your lazy ;P Eh, I can take that. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On September 20 2010 17:29 EvilTeletubby wrote: It was 30 days, plus we spoke on iccup like right after I think. And yeah, your posting improved a LOT after that I think (although you still managed to get a couple warnings ^^) AW U REMEMBER! we did talk in op irc, i was like "omg so sorry!!!" how does it feel knowing you crafted a kpop idol? | ||
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Rozza
United Kingdom45 Posts
On September 21 2010 01:29 Ciryandor wrote: You have an anti-authoritarian streak to go along with that cynicism? (want to know further the bias there) Just asking, because in any society or social group, unless you're the anarchist type, a semblance of order and/or organization is always required, thus the need for mods to tell our less-witty colleagues in the forums that their behavior is as you describe to be as A or B. The older (5k posts and higher) people in the forum have a larger leeway in getting back on the forum after a perma-ban; not because they'll shape up, but because they've contributed something to the community. Less posts and less constructive content overall mean you're less valued and if you do step out of line by acting stupidly, you're more liable to be whacked. So going back to my original query; more people are posting image macros and not getting warned. It's a disturbing trend, especially if it becomes the meme-generating type of pic, and people are getting away with it. more often No no, no anti-authoritarian streak, although I do sometimes like to be an instigator, (in rl) but i restrain myself here. Its just fun to stir the pot sometimes. And yes i do agree that some form of order is required, and yes i also concur that the mods are much needed and appreciated. I was just pointing out the sometimes 'holier-than-thou' attitude that some of us have, and that blatant cronyism/minion-esque behaviour when a mod posts, and an obvious lickspittle posts ''lol'' after quoting the mod's comment. Now this is perfectly understandable when it is funny, but when its not, i really dont see the need. Thank you for explaining the source of the ressurections. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 21 2010 12:35 Rozza wrote: No no, no anti-authoritarian streak, although I do sometimes like to be an instigator, (in rl) but i restrain myself here. Its just fun to stir the pot sometimes. And yes i do agree that some form of order is required, and yes i also concur that the mods are much needed and appreciated. I was just pointing out the sometimes 'holier-than-thou' attitude that some of us have, and that blatant cronyism/minion-esque behaviour when a mod posts, and an obvious lickspittle posts ''lol'' after quoting the mod's comment. Now this is perfectly understandable when it is funny, but when its not, i really dont see the need. Thank you for explaining the source of the ressurections. I agree, I've had my fair share of that "oh a modz~! praise be to it!" having worked as a mod for a company-run forum; and the other way around, when people are being unruly and ill-disciplined, how they grumble about you killing all their fun and excitement. It's tempting to wield the hammer in that case when they're being less-than-subtle jackasses behind your back, but you have to resist it if they're not being blatant about it; it's difficult drawing the line between sarcasm and full-blown anti-mod grumbling at times. It's difficult not having the manpower to go "Clean up the Augean Stables" in one fell swoop. And yes, I do like to throw out my share of baiting at times. People are getting too thin-skinned dealing with others. | ||
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Rozza
United Kingdom45 Posts
On September 21 2010 18:55 Ciryandor wrote: And yes, I do like to throw out my share of baiting at times. People are getting too thin-skinned dealing with others. Amen brother | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On September 21 2010 08:12 Boblion wrote: I think it was my first post in the strategy forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56212¤tpage=2#29 Hopefully Chill wasn't a mod back then lol so i didn't even get a warning. That was quite funny ( Hawk yelling at me haha ). Nowadays i could have been be nuked or at least banned from the strategy forum :p I also like how Neo Sauron and FE builds have made all this discussion obsolete. Otherwise i think i have only got two warnings ( for a "first" post and a one liner "play protoss" ) Got banned once for one week by Kennigit because i wrote "Fuck you Blizzard" in a Kespa vs Gretech/Blizzard. I think it was quite harsh but i guess i should bitch less. I try to stay away from General because it is terrible and there are too many people bitching/trolling/posting non sense and since i'm not too fluent in English it is quite hard to make myself understood, or simply to make a good, long and argumented post. I think that arguing on General is dumb so i try to avoid threads related to religion / china / etc... because this is always the same thing. I try to post positive stuff even if it is mostly one liners ( been a bit bitching about terrans though ) hahahahah i dont even remember this, i thought i stopped posting in strat forum on my last acct because it was always such a disaster I should log onto my old acct today and see if I can find my first post ever in strat forum. it's like a guide on how to NOT post there | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:09 heishe wrote: yes you're right. my memory was totally off on that first one. I'm probably thinking about some other ban on an older account which I stopped using when I changed my nick to heishe everywhere. still that ban was weird. even reading it now the post clearly sounds comical (since I capslocked barbar and nobody ever uses that as an insult), it must've been when I first started posting and didn't realize that it was not a smart idea to post that kind of jokey post. I guess my ban on heishe wasn't extended after I created a new account because of what I posted. Some guy was asking if it would be possible to implement a mass-observer tool or something with which one could observer tournament games etc, and I was itching to tell him that something like that already exists (waaaghtv in WC3). by the way what also made me sad when manifesto told me that I seem to be taking a monthly dump on the forums I put a lot of effort into my posts usually.maybe it wasn't justified to say it the way I did, but some people really are .... you know what I mean sometimes. people there were clearly saying: jokes about nazis and hitler and jews are hilarious and totally OK, but jokes about 9/11 are clearly not ok and absolutely not funny, the excuse being that one has happened in younger memory than the other, which makes no sense at all. when I see that kind of ignorance I just go mad for 1 minute and it results in posts like that (also with calling the guy a fucking idiot after he said that b-teamers etc. had no right to complain about their working conditions since they play videogames as a job) . But anyways, that's long over. but you're right, those bans were more or less deserved. I do understand where you were coming from in most of the posts that got you banned, and I don't fully like the way your first 2 day ban was handled (your post was off topic but as far as I can tell, nobody else got warned/banned while there were several other people doing it on the same page). If it means anything to you, I think you're a decent poster who definitely means well, despite your ugly mod notes. Also, when Manifesto said that you seem to be taking a monthly dump on the forums, I think what he meant to say was that looking at your post history, you seem like a good poster who somehow randomly spazzes out and does something bannable about once a month. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
I couldn't find my thread. I thought I created it, but apparently not. It was something about the viability of hydras on that one three player space map with the open nat and I think I told your_killer, inc and a few other vets they're all cunts or something after I was totally wrong, ahha. It was under my old ))(())(( name. If any mod cares to search to show what a jackass I was, that would be funny! | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 20 2010 10:29 Ojahh wrote: EDIT: never mind, I derailed the thread. On Topic: do Bans work? we should ask Charlie Murphy when hes back :D Yea, Of course I'm a very bullheaded person so it takes me longer that most probably. But I wouldn't say it helps me understand or agree with their viewpoint , it just teaches me what to do and not to do here. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote: I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread. Wha you can totally do that choose orc! | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
On September 18 2010 00:02 Murderotica wrote: No user is ever really changed at the core by bans, they just either a. realize that being able to post on TL is worth more than voicing their opinions/bm or b. find more tactical ways of trolling/bming/upsetting people. Hehe, A is what happened to me, and B is what I try to do. Got temp banned for shitting up the HoN/DotA thread, because that was what it was, until about the 980th page. Other bans other than ones from the HoN/DotA thread are pretty irrelevant/dumb though. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 22 2010 11:43 Vei wrote: I have learned to never disrespect brood war pros even when they do things that I view as retarded (I said some things about nal-ra in regards to his TV series being ended by his mandatory military service). You just don't get how you're suppose to operate On April 27 2008 19:30 ChaosKnight wrote: Xellos is perfect, he must have lifted his CC to gain some sort of advantage. Layla, on the other hand, fucked up. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=70353¤tpage=4#71 Anyone who watched the series should get this quote in a second. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On September 22 2010 11:45 Monokeros wrote: I was set straight my EvilTeletubby's ban when I made one of the most worthless blog posts ever, in which he told me he was 'confused' when he saw the quality of my posts and the whole article I had just written recently. I figured I should clean my act up to match the quality of my hard work and so...I have not achieved that yet but hey at least I'm not geting banned for making terrible blogs now Ooooh yeah, I remember that... On October 04 2009 16:50 TL.net Bot wrote: Monokeros was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby. That account was created on 2005-11-01 18:04:25 and had 1182 posts. The last page the Mod was looking at before this user was banned is here. Reason: You're so inconsistent. You have the ability to create excellent posts, but you seem content to ruin it with awful threads, and just have terrible and annoying posting habits. I can't quite put my finger on it, but you have the uncanny ability to be just really, really annoying. I suggest... 1) Never using your caps lock key again, ever, 2) Forget about using the "Fixed" editted reply comment... yours are overused and horrible 3) Drop da thug life yo attitude. It's what makes old guys like me hate kids like you. Been pretty solid since, can't really complain about the results. On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote: I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread. ROFL, your info page is hilarious. Just reinforces why Sonuvbob is the funniest guy on TL. | ||
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
Still...reading some of those bans in the Automated Ban List makes me really cautious and intimidated by TL's mods. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 22 2010 11:18 semantics wrote: Wha you can totally do that choose orc! yes but that doesn't mean that it's a good strategy or was appropriate if you consider a context. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 21 2010 07:20 oo_xerox wrote: Epic. I learn how to behave in a forum here. Seriously. EDIT: I couldnt resist sorry lol Oh, that changes everything I dont believe anyone understands exactly how hard i tried to resist posting that >_> | ||
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Buffy
Sweden665 Posts
On September 22 2010 15:26 Neo7 wrote: If I can remember correctly, I've only had one topic closure way way back in the day. Since then I entered into a super lurker kind of mode and slowly made a few replies. After seeing others putting up bad OPs and a general idea of what a good OP is, I don't think I'll be making any soon (I could make a good OP, but the problem is that I've got nothing). Still...reading some of those bans in the Automated Ban List makes me really cautious and intimidated by TL's mods. Welcome to the club, afraid of posting most of the times, I remake my post and preview it like 5 times before even thinking about hitting that post button. Mods on TL can be very very scary : ( On September 22 2010 11:15 Kennigit wrote: I got warned for telling people to bunker rush in a warcraft 3 thread. Was this intentional ?:D | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
I tend to have this feeling that some mods are just way too trigger happy compared to others. | ||
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Carefoot
Canada410 Posts
Just make their signature forced to say they are below the average intelligence quotient or are full of shit. Or both. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On September 18 2010 09:44 SonuvBob wrote: This is one of the main reasons for the Report feature. You can vent about bad posts without derailing the thread. My temp ban ended like 5 minutes ago. I guess I was changed enough to want to know where the report button is, because I sure don't see one. Being able to direct mods towards some jackasses would help with not turning into Internet Man, with the superpower of Angry Posting at people who are (gasp) wrong. EDIT: On September 22 2010 21:58 Carefoot wrote: Temp-Banning people has the same learning effect as sending a guy to jail for breaking into your car. Hes not going to learn a lesson, he'll learn to make homemade wine with orange rinds in a toilet and not to let you live next time he steals your car. People tend to get angry on the internet, tempers flare, and most of this medium is filled with places that have far more lax moderation. TL is obviously different. Doesn't mean we're all malicious /b/tards looking to get a rise out of people. And I'd imagine the majority of people who steal car stereos don't escalate to cold-blooded murder. | ||
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Meiya
Australia1169 Posts
On September 22 2010 21:58 Carefoot wrote: Temp-Banning people has the same learning effect as sending a guy to jail for breaking into your car. Hes not going to learn a lesson, he'll learn to make homemade wine with orange rinds in a toilet and not to let you live next time he steals your car. So your just breeding a more careful troll, capable of infiltrating the most serious stickies and evading the most power hungry of moderators. Just make their signature forced to say they are below the average intelligence quotient or are full of shit. Or both. The idea is to give them a taste of where they're heading if they don't sort their life out. It works a whole lot better than letting crappy posters keep being crappy. Constructive criticism is essential in the development of a good poster :3 | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Ban List Please was just banned by pangshai. That account was created on 2010-05-11 07:23:10 and had 2 posts. Reason: You were probably looking for this anyway. Love Trollin Nubs was just banned by RaGe. That account was created on 2010-06-04 22:51:21 and had 8 posts. Reason: Previously banned user. Hiicantpk was just banned by RaGe. That account was created on 2009-03-21 07:54:02 and had 72 posts. Reason: Making 2 alts after getting banned and banbaiting. I have learned not to be a retard on the internet, and control my urges to troll people. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
So much for a flawless record :C | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On September 22 2010 23:05 Senx wrote: Ive never been banned but I'm not sure if I've been warned or not, I think not. I have however gotten my posts deleted.. which might be worse than getting warned ... its like " your post was so terrible I had to delete it, a warning wasnt enough". So much for a flawless record :C You will get a PM if you get banned or warned. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
I still am who I am, and I have strong opinions on some things with obvious bias, and I still do berate people, but I feel that I hold myself back tons now. I can't even count the number of times I have written out posts and just delete it all after thinking "this isn't important enough". I'm not a perfect poster at all but I can honestly say that I have improved over time the past few years. And you know, I kinda just like to read more than actively participate now. I suppose the culmination of my time on this forum and the various things that have occurred in my life since I have found this site is that the main theme of person is not whether he is right or wrong, but rather as to how he approaches an event. It is the authenticity that defines the person. There will always be some event that cracks me so I will get banned sometime or another in the future. But I can honestly say that I have learned a little each time. It doesn't matter if the opponent is an imbecile - I shouldn't become an imbecile myself. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
I did it by making this account and there wasn't much to purge in the first place - I only got warned once on the old one for posting "1st" and got 1 topic closed. Yeah, keeping my insane emo side under control was the most important thing to do. Changing my name to something I've been actually using anywhere else was a handy side effect. So, during GSL final I got banned for 2 days: beetlelisk was just temp banned for 2 days by Liquid`Nazgul. That account was created on 2008-07-30 06:06:49 and had 1346 posts. Reason: I am actually thinking Rainbow sold his match, if the stadium is packed then there may be big amount of money in bets. This is just beyond ridiculous. Use common sense first before you make statements like this. I don't think I even read "any further stupid fucking comments" part of red warning boesthius placed in the live report thread. The only impression I got was "oh great, no mercy for balance whiners". I didn't understand that warning meant purge aimed against "write no matter what you feel, post it and pretty much forget about it" kind of posts that create environment allowing balance whine to happen in the first place. And that was that kind of post, I wasn't even serious. Hype really made me pumped, it's effects wore off at last completely during Sunday. The next day Nevermind that 1,5 beer, Cool the But this, this wasn't enough yet to make me write what got me banned. The last nail to the coffin was Tastosis saying "(...) this placed is packed, there are even people who are sitting [somewhere] (...)". That made me think there were at least 10 000 people sitting there and rather even more >_<. That gave me fake impression, proof that wasn't there, that SC2 isn't just big in Korea already, it is huge. And the truth was On October 02 2010 22:22 Waxangel wrote: (note: Fomos reports 3500 showed up) On October 02 2010 22:43 GTR wrote: impossible logistically unless they can manage to find an open space to fit that many people. (the stadium they used today maxes at 7000). O_o That's not huge, that's ok, that's big but not huge [edit] even for game so young. I don't think I need elaborate more about this aspect of this ban. There is another though - what I wrote could be understood as balance whine. Now, I don't think it was but I want write more about this because this is also the reason why I wrote that. I could be saying "hey why Rainbow wasn't doing any early pressure openings, even all ins, preferably with Reapers?". Anything that really makes whiners whine. His openings were most probably the best he could choose, he was hoping FD would be preparing against this sort of thing. However he didn't do anything until the late game, he was even waiting until ultras were out. And he was doing it against zerg, zerg that has macro mechanic considered the strongest in the game? What the hell? This is nonsense, this is qualifiers or maybe ro64 one sided rape. I say this even though I UTTERLY DESPISE whine, I even showed it few hours before finals On October 02 2010 10:31 beetlelisk wrote: Hey you are giving many, many idiots a reason to whine! and during TvT semifinal B On September 30 2010 18:15 beetlelisk wrote: Let the really better one win so once Cool dominates him in the finals all of the whiners get slapped in the face that much stronger. Hype made me even think about making a blog proposing extended ban durations for balance whine Hell, if this would be the only reason I got banned, that would make me happy. That would make me feel delighted it wasn't 1 week. | ||
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Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
Fast forward a bit later, and haji PMed me (before he was modded/demodded) about my lack of content during live reports. I've tried to add more content to all my posts since then. Rickrolling in an Obama thread resulted in a 2 day ban because I needed a reason not to post in the mafia game that was going on. Other than that, it's mostly Chill banning me because I needed time off TL to study. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On September 22 2010 22:53 kojinshugi wrote: I guess I was changed enough to want to know where the report button is, because I sure don't see one. You have to have been here a year. | ||
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jaerak
United States124 Posts
Been here for a few years, but I seldom post because of the banhammer hovering over my head. P.S. - I'm joking...well, half-joking. Can't really criticize the system as a whole though. because TL is still definitely the best forum around | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On October 05 2010 06:11 mikeymoo wrote: Fast forward a bit later, and haji PMed me (before he was modded/demodded) about my lack of content during live reports. Ah, Haji... | ||
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
But oh well, ain't gonna change me, I'm just not gonna post. If I see something retarded enough, I'll still post and just take the warning. (Read: Don't give a fuck.) User was warned for this post | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:00 jstar wrote: I get warnings for some of the dumbest things/bashing retarded people. But oh well, ain't gonna change me, I'm just not gonna post. If I see something retarded enough, I'll still post and just take the warning. (Read: Don't give a fuck.) All you have to do is be clever about putting people in their place, instead of just name calling. | ||
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:05 Jibba wrote: All you have to do is be clever about putting people in their place, instead of just name calling. wouldn't you get warnings from that as well? | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:00 jstar wrote: I get warnings for some of the dumbest things/bashing retarded people. But oh well, ain't gonna change me, I'm just not gonna post. If I see something retarded enough, I'll still post and just take the warning. (Read: Don't give a fuck.) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6432402 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=5603160 | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:09 jstar wrote: wouldn't you get warnings from that as well? This isn't a day care center. We just want posts to be thoughtful and contribute to the thread. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
Oh well, just won't comment on any players at all anymore >_> | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
EDIT: Though I wish deep down they'd be as tough on anti-IMBA people as pro-IMBA...not that that has anything to do with my personal ban | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27148 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:15 Fa1nT wrote: I got banned for calling people who were insulting IdrA in the GSL topic stupid Oh well, just won't comment on any players at all anymore >_> No, you got banned for calling people idiots. | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
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TLOBrian
United States453 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:10 Chill wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6432402 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=5603160 1st post, he was being a complete and utter dick. 2nd post, he was right, but was also being a complete and utter dick, AND got the attention of someone with a lot of posts. Thats doubly bad. I'm personally trying to find the fine line between being able to joke around with mods and being banned. It's tough. | ||
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
EDIT: On topic I know a couple people there who spammed false rumors and got banned a few times that were set straight by it. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
I think twice before posting anything | ||
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Clodius
17 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:51 TLOBrian wrote: 1st post, he was being a complete and utter dick. 2nd post, he was right, but was also being a complete and utter dick, AND got the attention of someone with a lot of posts. Thats doubly bad. I'm personally trying to find the fine line between being able to joke around with mods and being banned. It's tough. He needs to culture up his insults. Like for the first one go with You are a self-made man and worships your creator and you objected to ideas only when others had them.I thought of you as fearfully ill-educated and quite tenth rate. I feel quite maternal to you. And for the 2nd one you go with stop being a dumb ass. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:43 Ludrik wrote: I've always wondered why there's no report button for mods, especially considering some of them have a history of being banned. Accountability is always a good thing to keep standards high. ? What mods have a history of being banned? Also, there is complete and total transparency for any moderating action. That's WHY our standards are so high. I have no clue what you're talking about. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:43 Ludrik wrote: I've always wondered why there's no report button for mods, especially considering some of them have a history of being banned. Accountability is always a good thing to keep standards high. You've apparently never taken the time to read the actual ban list. While it's outrageously humorous, it's also pretty thorough, and I doubt TL would let anyone abuse their power. If you've been banned, you deserve it. May not realize it right away, but go back after some time has passed, and read the posts that got you banned, and you'll realize it was earned. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On October 05 2010 15:41 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: You've apparently never taken the time to read the actual ban list. While it's outrageously humorous, it's also pretty thorough, and I doubt TL would let anyone abuse their power. If you've been banned, you deserve it. May not realize it right away, but go back after some time has passed, and read the posts that got you banned, and you'll realize it was earned. He means you cannot report a post made by a mod. I don't know what your reply has to do with that. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
however the fact that i am still here after 5 years proves that they are extremely forgiving+lenient to those who make an honest effort to respect their rules and contribute to the community. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On October 05 2010 15:55 crate wrote: He means you cannot report a post made by a mod. I don't know what your reply has to do with that. I thought he meant report them for their bans or warnings. My mistake. | ||
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Sylvr
United States524 Posts
Granted, I have been on the verge of hitting the Post button on a few things that would definitely get me banned, but at some point in my forum career, I got into the habit of re-reading my posts before hitting that button, and that habit has saved me a lot of trouble. Most of the things that I refrain from posting are smart-ass comments meant to make me sound witty or smart, or just cynical, nihilistic, and insensitive comments that, experience has told me, most people will find offensive. | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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DownMaxX
Canada1311 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Watch this kids! | ||
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evanthebouncy
China491 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
evanthebouncy (banned) sorrow_eyes (learned from mistake, unused) happymanrun (another smurf) evanthebouncy! (back to original) then evanthebouncy become unbanned by the grace of mani. wee! | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Eventually puberty gotta end, and you stop raging hormone. hehe | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On October 05 2010 18:16 H wrote: I think 9/10 of the posts I write never get posted. I'm not sure if people lack the ability to be like 'naw' or if they just want to be heard that much, but it's not hard to avoid being banned if you act like a normal human being. Unless you get unlucky in roulette.. I find myself doing this more and more often. Even when it's not an inflammatory post, but just going against the general grain and I realize arguing with people will be pointless, I just delete it and move on. | ||
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Energin
Canada89 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 05 2010 17:59 Sylvr wrote: It is so incredibly easy to get along with the mods... I don't understand people that get banned repeatedly. Maybe it's all just trolling; I tend to get trolled pretty easily. Of course, I'm one of those guys that never really got into fights with my parents growing up either. I realized early on that it just caused more problems than it solved. I even remember lecturing my friends about it when they would pick stupid fights about things that took ~5 minutes to resolve without conflict. Granted, I have been on the verge of hitting the Post button on a few things that would definitely get me banned, but at some point in my forum career, I got into the habit of re-reading my posts before hitting that button, and that habit has saved me a lot of trouble. Most of the things that I refrain from posting are smart-ass comments meant to make me sound witty or smart, or just cynical, nihilistic, and insensitive comments that, experience has told me, most people will find offensive. I think this is me too. I got warned a few times for trolling a bit too hard and I'm sure I'm usually too aggressive in arguments, but it's never been hard to stay within most of the rules or contribute to a thread. I don't understand the people who can't stop themselves from posting the first thing in their head. | ||
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