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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion. For regular posters, don't quote the trolls. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
im so seriously curious about this about gays. also, any time there is overt disapproval, things tend to go underground. a means of communication identification. secret societies have their communication methods like handsigns and symbols. do gay's have ways of communicating / identifying (beside the tells that can be read by non gays pretty easily) | ||
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gulii
Sweden2791 Posts
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Fumi
529 Posts
On August 28 2010 15:13 Ordained wrote: Ugh, why do gay people always have to be so "misunderstood" and "not belong anywhere" guess what, no one cares, Be gay, that is fine, but flaunting it makes you look pretentious. How many "straight gamers" threads do you see? Ugh these threads make me rage sooo hard. It seems people who advocate equality subliminally ask for segregation. Just play the game. Edit: I am not hating on your sexuality, I just hate it when people make threads asking for attention. Seeing as you are a well known person on TL, welcome back, but that is because you are a player, not because you like men. It's less about getting attention and more about finding people like you, in my opinion. I can sort of understand where you're coming from, I myself don't go around forums asking if there's any lesbians in the house all the time, but think like this. Imagine yourself in school, you love starcraft, but all the cool kids think you're nerdy and a freak. But once you get a chance to find someone who also loves starcraft, you get all excited. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
Question to TL gays (TL is a good place to pose thought provoking questions that you can't usually otherwise ask and this thread is a great opportunity for me to ask them): In med school, I've noticed that pretty much across the board, nowadays, male doctors will not examine female patients without another female being present. Often, its an enforced rule by administration, but sometimes, the doctor just knows that it is appropriate both for his patient's protection and for his own. We have several gay doctors and med students, but they do not practice the same precautions when they are alone with male patients (whether old men or young boys). I've always wondered about that, because somehow, deep down I know that if someone suggested a policy that gay doctors not be allowed to examine young boys (without a straight male being present), he would be shouted down as a bigot and people would say things like "are you trying to call me a pedophile just because I am gay?" But not having the policy implies that gays are inherently morally superior and would never fall to the temptation to abuse their position of authority as a straight doctor would. What do you think about this situation? Would you be offended if you were a doctor and someone suggested the implementation of a policy that said you needed a chaperone to examine young boys, if there was a similar policy stating that a heterosexual doctor needed a chaperone to examine young girls? I've pondered other situations that are made complicated when you think about them. For example, the whole point of having separate mens and womens rooms is to keep people who are sexually attracted to eachother separated when they are exposed for the purposes of hygiene....so you can feel comfortable knowing someone isn't taking advantage of you without your knowledge by gaining sexual satisfaction watching you. So, is it ok to be in a situation where you are safe from heterosexual oglers but not from homosexual ones? But I can't think of a remedy for this situation. In many situations, it seems like rules that have been created to protect women from straight men don't exist to protect straight men or straight women from gay men or women. And it also seems like anyone who brings that up or who would try to institute a policy to fix that, would be jeered down as bigoted and homophobic. So what should be done? What is fair? What is appropriate? Well I think the preconceived notion(which I'm inclined to agree with), is that an adult male would be able to defend himself from the advances of an overly amorous male doctor. Ask yourself seriously, would you really want to have another man sit there and observe your prostate exam with the sole purpose of preventing you from being exploited? Sounds pretty retarded to me, and if it's that much of a concern I'm sure you could request it... Granted the real purpose of your post was to address a male homosexual doctors interactions with young male patients not adults, so I'm not sure why you even included the previous point. I'm assuming you mean under the age of 13 or so. Anyways at that age a parent would've brought the child to the doctor's as it is. It is certainly their right and some might say duty to observe the proceedings(or request an adequate third party) if they feel their child's safety is at risk, and if they feel that way in the first place they should request another doctor. The required female attendant rule, is more in place to protect the doctors than the women patients anyways. My biggest problem with your suggestion though is that it would specifically label gay dudes, so say a perfectly upstanding homosexual doctor with no ab-normal interest in under-aged male children would have their practice infringed(granted in a mild manner) upon. However another doctor who could be not so open about his sexuality and attracted to young males, but outwardly puts up the pretense of heterosexuality and could even be married to further enhance the ruse gets a free pass? As far as I'm aware, sexual abuse cases involving adult males and under aged males most often involve an adult who is not an admitted homosexual. More often than not they have absolutely no attraction to adult men as it is anyways. So I really think if that rule was to be fair it would have to apply to all male doctors which is pretty stupid when the majority of the work can be done with proper vetting and good/astute parenting. If you don't feel your child is safe in a situation do something about it for fucks sake lol. | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
Kids. Adoption. What are your views on gay adoption? I've heard a lot of arguments (at least here in Sweden) that gays also have the right to have children. Also that gays are just as good parents as any straight couples. On the other hand there are arguments like that every child have a right to a father and a mother (some UN agreement I think), or that gays adopting children would put them at a high risk of getting bullied and harass all through school years (similar to how gays are often treated). Where do you stand on this? My own opinion: + Show Spoiler + No adult, gay or straight, person has the right to have children, it's the children who have the rights to have parents. Gays adopting do put the child risk at a too high risk of getting bullied and harassed through school years today, and while it might change in a few years with a more tolerant society, it's not worth the risk today. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
No adult, gay or straight, person has the right to have children, it's the children who have the rights to have parents. Gays adopting do put the child risk at a too high risk of getting bullied and harassed through school years today, and while it might change in a few years with a more tolerant society, it's not worth the risk today. You're probably just as likely to get bullied for being fat as having two dads, though I see your point. On the other hand though would you rather see kids live in orphanages or rotating through the foster system? At that point you're denying those same kids the rights to have parents that you just said they had. Having loving stable parents and getting picked on for them being gay(dudes or dudettes) is probably a trade a lot of orphans wouldn't mind, though I don't know for sure. I think it's important to note that kids adopted by homosexual couples aren't being taken away from lives with hetero parents, they're being taken away from lives with no parents. I'd rather have a couple of homos there to reinforce and support me, hell maybe even pay for my education. Seems a good alternative to the brick wall of an orphanage or a foster home where they either can't afford to support you in all the ways they'd like to be able or don't care to. All in all I think teasing is the least an orphan has to worry about because no matter what they'll get made fun of for being an orphan anyways, kids can be shitheads that way heh. Granted just because someone adopts be they homosexual or straight doesn't necessarily mean they'll make good parents I suppose, but that's what the vetting process/child services is for. Granted the systems I mentioned(orphanages and foster parents) might be more effective in Sweden than elsewhere. | ||
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On August 28 2010 18:46 Cedstick wrote: Mora, I never put 2 and 2 together 'til now, but were you Moraelin at the L2SC tourney? Assuming you're the one on the right, it might be you, but if you're the one on the left (which is likely in respect to your caption) then I'm toooooootally wrong. Also: "that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke." Fahahahahahaha! Dude, I'm straight and I can totally agree with that perspective. yes, yes he was  | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On August 28 2010 16:27 Drowsy wrote: I hope this doesn't come across as homophobic, but I kind of get irritated when an individual's identity is so closely tied to their sexuality. Like being gay changes everything about who they are and they constantly advertise and refer to the fact that they are gay. Being openly gay/bi is fine, but it shouldn't define a person either. So much of our culture is focused around your sexuality, how can you not see how dramatically that it would change your life to be gay? I'll make a brief list of everything that i see that is about heterosexuality, that's thrown in my face all the time: * guys talking about hot girls * posters with hot women on them * baby strollers. they always have a mom and a dad. * music, always about straight relationships * movies, always about straight love (seriously, almost every movie has a relationship in it) * segregated washroom facilities (men / women) * straight people holding hands. they're everywhere. * spousal RRSP programs * clubs / bars * straight people dancing in clubs Much of life/culture is focused around finding love/satisfying lust. Not only does the majority of culture not accommodate for my sexuality, but a large part of it disapproves of it. There's nothing i can say that will give you understanding. I cannot describe the feeling i get from seeing two guys holding hands in public. It makes me want to holler at the top of my lungs with joy. Yay love, you know? | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On August 28 2010 18:40 Lord_of_Chaos wrote: I started reading this thread more for, "okay, let's see wtf this is.. prolly some attention seeker" and found a really interesting thread. While still in the process of reading it through I'd like to ask a question for the TL.net gay guys (hope it's not been asked before): Kids. Adoption. What are your views on gay adoption? I've heard a lot of arguments (at least here in Sweden) that gays also have the right to have children. Also that gays are just as good parents as any straight couples. On the other hand there are arguments like that every child have a right to a father and a mother (some UN agreement I think), or that gays adopting children would put them at a high risk of getting bullied and harass all through school years (similar to how gays are often treated). Where do you stand on this? My own opinion: + Show Spoiler + No adult, gay or straight, person has the right to have children, it's the children who have the rights to have parents. Gays adopting do put the child risk at a too high risk of getting bullied and harassed through school years today, and while it might change in a few years with a more tolerant society, it's not worth the risk today. Gay adoption is a large topic, and should be saved for another thread. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On August 28 2010 08:10 BC.KoRn wrote: LOL, Hi sexy^^ If there is a god, I'll see ya in hell buddy. User was warned for this post Ah mods, totally understand this warning, but this guy's a good frend in real life. He has this condition that he thinks he's funny when he talks, he'd b much better off with a mute button. permanently turned on. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:50 caldo149 wrote: Hey Mora, why does it seem like gay people are hypersexual? Maybe I'm just a bit timid in regards to sexual matters but in my experience it seems like gay people talk about and engage in sexual acts more than non-gay people... In this thread it seems like a majority of questions are sexual in nature, perhaps due to the curiosity of non-gay people about being gay? I dunno if I'm articulating my idea correctly but I hope you can see what I'm trying to ask. When your primary struggle in life is sexuality, you're familiarity and comfort level gets really high. Being gay innately prohibits you from being shy from sexuality. Throw that gay men are also men, and you have a really comfortable horny pool of people. Who are looking for each other. lol  note: not all gays are hypersexual. And the ones that aren't are usually pretty offended by those of us that are. To be frank, they need to grow a set. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
i am surprised there are as many GLBT players as there are. I wasn't expecting there to be so many of us. yay tl.net | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:25 Mora wrote: so this thread grew 9 pages in the 12 hours i was away. I will inevitably miss some things. my apologies. i am surprised there are as many GLBT players as there are. I wasn't expecting there to be so many of us. yay tl.net I'm trans and it's really great seeing threads like this, with the majority of posts being supportive/positive. yay tl.net x2 | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:38 Dark.Carnival wrote: I'm trans and it's really great seeing threads like this, with the majority of posts being supportive/positive. yay tl.net x2 Yeah, but what you dont know is that there may be a larger number of people who are NOT supportive/positive, but only refrain from posting out of fear of bans. | ||
KwarK
United States43728 Posts
On August 28 2010 20:01 Catch]22 wrote: Yeah, but what you dont know is that there may be a larger number of people who are NOT supportive/positive, but only refrain from posting out of fear of bans. I'd hope they refrain from posting because the topic holds no interest to them. We ban people for coming into topics about sc2 and saying "stupid game, bw so much better" all the time. Don't see why the same principle should apply here. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4519 Posts
I noticed some guy touching you all the time at the TL.net party! hoho | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On August 28 2010 20:01 Catch]22 wrote: Yeah, but what you dont know is that there may be a larger number of people who are NOT supportive/positive, but only refrain from posting out of fear of bans. I hope they refrain to visit this site all together. I never understood why people (mostly men) feels so threaten by homosexuality. I mean, if for nothing else, there are more women left for the rest of us. | ||
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IAMJose
Canada11 Posts
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