EPTbut isn't bench pretty easy to have good form in?
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but isn't bench pretty easy to have good form in? | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 travis wrote: im sure inc has flawless bench form but isn't bench pretty easy to have good form in? I don't think so, I usually never see people with good form in the gym. Only some of the guys who showed me how to bench have good form. heres a good video :D | ||
Disregard
China10252 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 travis wrote: im sure inc has flawless bench form but isn't bench pretty easy to have good form in? I had difficulties keeping my wrists straight, which kinda screws up the point of it. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
Amnesia Age: 19 || Height: 5'7" || Weight: 140lbs , 63.5kg Starting Date: Starting Now || Goal Date: End of School Year (Mid May) Weight goals -- Cut down to 130-135 pounds Training goals -- Go to the gym and either do: bike, treadmill, swimming Nutrition goals -- Eat healthy. Limit carbs, fats, and absolutely no junk food (once a week, which I will make it Wednesdays) Misc goals -- Keep updated on this thread. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
On March 31 2010 14:02 AoN.DimSum wrote: I don't think so, I usually never see people with good form in the gym. Only some of the guys who showed me how to bench have good form. Agreed. My bench basically didn't improve for several weeks now and gives me more trouble than all the other lifts combined (which all go up constantly). Yesterday I did around 15 sets of bench pressing. Experimenting with grip width, elbow position, Overhand vs Hook Grip, foot positioning, back angle... finally a new 5RM, but still have a lot of testing to do. I find it really difficult. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On March 30 2010 20:21 unknown.sam wrote: +130?! woah man that's sick. absolutely mind boggling O_o last time i tried i was able to do 10 pull ups (a few months ago), it probably has increased by a bit since then. btw i have a question for you eshlow..you have stated on numerous occasions that one should aim for 1.5x bw squat, 2x bw deadlift so on and so forth. what should the goal be with weighted pullups?? Those numbers are around finishing linear progression or basic barbell strength training. I'd probably say about +.3-.4 bodyweight is about the same for pullup or chinup On March 30 2010 20:38 Disregard wrote: For some reason my right rotator cuff loses any feeling when I benchpress, while my left shoulder still retains strength. Any effective exercises to warmup and fix the strain, preferably with the resistance band? There's a lot of problems that it could be. There is numbness? That's likely an issue with pinching of the nerves in the brachial plexus.... Poor posture, and poor technique would be likely contributers. Change your technique, AND improve your posture. Possibly get some deep tissue massages, etc. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On March 31 2010 22:20 eshlow wrote: Those numbers are around finishing linear progression or basic barbell strength training. I'd probably say about +.3-.4 bodyweight is about the same for pullup or chinup looks like i have a long way to go then... | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 01 2010 00:42 unknown.sam wrote: looks like i have a long way to go then... If you're doing weighted chins a couple times a week do 3x5 and try to add +5 lbs every workout like linear progression would work for squats/DLs/bench/press. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
Bodyweight: 197.8lbs Squat: 265x3x5 (5 reps 3 sets) Deadlift: 327.5x7 Bench: 195x3x5 Press: 120x3x5 Powerclean:150x5x3  Chin-up: bw+25x5 Will be up to 200 pretty soon and I'll probably stop at 206 so I can compete in the 94kg class. I'm still doing starting strength: the advanced novice with powercleans and dls once a week instead of alternating them every other week. Once school ends and I change gyms, I'm going to change my programming to the novice olympic weightlifting program Justin Lascek came up with on 70sbig.com: Monday Clean and Jerk heavy Snatch for sets across Tuesday Squat Press Chin-ups Wednesday Off Thursday Snatch heavy Clean and jerk singles across Friday Squat Bench Deadlift Heavy days on the oly lifts just means working up to 1-3 heavy singles, sets across is 10-12 timed singles at less weight (1 minute snatch, 2 minutes cj). Does anyone know of any good resources for learning the olympic lifts? I'm not going to have any coaching for these and to my knowledge there's no comprehensive literature allowing you to teach yourself the lifts like there is for the slow lifts (starting strength obv). I have a feeling I'm really going to be struggling with the snatch, I'm still barely developing the balance and flexibility to do a snatch grip overhead squat without plates under my feet. I guess that'll get better when I invest in some weightlifting shoes, but it wouldn't hurt to be flexible enough to do them barefoot. Also I'm pretty sure i'm going to be taking like a 20 minute break after bench press on friday. I haven't been able to squat and deadlift heavy on the same day and still make consistent prs in quite a while. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
OMG someone training in oly lifts!! Where do you live?, I really would suggest a coach. i'm trying to look for the link of all the gyms http://weightlifting.teamusa.org/pages/1808 | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On April 02 2010 11:57 Energies wrote: Drowsy, mind if I ask what your physical condition is currently? Are you lean or a bit overweight? 5'11 and I bike 4 miles each way to my campus 5 days a week, so still on the skinny/lean side. I will go up to the 105kg class eventually but I'm going to stay at 94kg for probably a year or so because I've been bulking hard for 8 months straight and it has not been a pleasant experience. On April 02 2010 12:12 AoN.DimSum wrote: OMG someone training in oly lifts!! Where do you live?, I really would suggest a coach. i'm trying to look for the link of all the gyms http://weightlifting.teamusa.org/pages/1808 There's a crossfit with a few coaches where I live but they want to charge me like 60$/hour. They're level 1 crossfit olympic weightlifting coaches and I think that's just way too much money for somebody who's probably not actually that good at coaching the lifts. Frankly those cultfilt fuckers are always just weird kool-aid drinkers anyway. I really would like a good coach though, my best full clean is 185x1 and I have never performed a proper jerk without a little bit of press-out. The peaks weightlifting club is in my town(Flagstaff, AZ), but it's like 20+ miles away and I don't have a car. I would still consider making a trip out there or asking somebody to give me a ride because I've heard good things about it. There's another place right behind my apartment with bumpers/platforms which is the gym I'm going to be switching to. I really doubt anyone there can coach the olympic lifts but I guess it's a possibility. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On April 02 2010 12:45 Drowsy wrote: 5'11 and I bike 4 miles to my campus twice a day five times a week, so still on the skinny/lean side. I will go up to the 105kg class eventually but I'm going to stay at 94kg for a while because I've been bulking hard for 9 months straight. There's a crossfit with a few coaches where I live but they want to charge me like 60$/hour. They're level 1 crossfit olympic weightlifting coaches and frankly that's just way too much money for somebody who's probably not actually that good at coaching the lifts. The peaks weightlifting club is in my town(Flagstaff, AZ), but it's like 20+ miles away and I don't have a car. I would still consider making a trip out there or asking somebody to give me a ride because I've heard good things about it. There's another place right behind my apartment with bumpers/platforms which is the gym I'm going to be switching to. I really doubt anyone there can coach the olympic lifts but I guess it's a possibility. http://www.mikesgym.org/programs/index.php and http://www.cathletics.com/ are some nice websites, I don't know many. If you really cant get a coach, you can post videos of your form here, I can help a little bit. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On April 02 2010 12:57 AoN.DimSum wrote: http://www.mikesgym.org/programs/index.php and http://www.cathletics.com/ are some nice websites, I don't know many. If you really cant get a coach, you can post videos of your form here, I can help a little bit. Funny you should link those, I just discovered the catalyst athletics website a week ago and went through a few of the videos. That Aimee Anaya woman is very strong for a U.S. weightlifter, and she looks to be a little bit old too. I dunno how I missed the Greg Everett book on Olympic Weightlifting. I'll definitely invest in a copy if getting coaching doesn't work out. As far as programming though, i definitely want to do something that allows me to train the power lifts and the olympic lifts. I'll be sticking with the 70sbig.com program. Mark Rippetoe has used it on some new weightlifting trainees at his gym, I expect it'll make it into the next edition of practical programming or ss. One trainee, Brian, progressed on it all the way to squatting 500x3x5 and c+jing 155kg. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Age: 19 || Height: 5'10"|| Weight: 135lbs Starting Date: 04/01/2010 || Goal Date: 12/31/10 Weight goals -- stay my current weight or get five - 10 pounds lighter Training goals -- excersize once every two weeks at least school year... every week summer Nutrition goals -- Less deserts, soda Misc goals -- Stay light... being fat means I have to distribute energy to more parts of my body... I don't have enough energy as is. In addition, I don't wanna have to carry fourty extra pounds on my body all the time. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On April 02 2010 13:18 obesechicken13 wrote: obesechicken13 Age: 19 || Height: 5'10"|| Weight: 135lbs Starting Date: 04/01/2010 || Goal Date: 12/31/10 Weight goals -- stay my current weight or get five - 10 pounds lighter wtf...? You may have anorexia unless this is a typo and you're 5'1. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On April 02 2010 10:55 eshlow wrote: If you're doing weighted chins a couple times a week do 3x5 and try to add +5 lbs every workout like linear progression would work for squats/DLs/bench/press. yeah that's what i've been doing for the past few months. but doesn't 5lbs seem a bit much?? my initial attempt at weighted pull ups didn't go so well. i was only adding about 2lbs per workout and i ended up stalling real fast (3rd week) and i just couldn't get over the hump. since then i started over and decided to be more conservative with the increases. i'm still progressing (slowly though) so i guess i'll just stick to what's working for me. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On April 02 2010 13:32 Drowsy wrote: wtf...? You may have anorexia unless this is a typo and you're 5'1. maybe he means 235? it has to be a typo. i don't see how he can carry 40 extra lbs at a height of 5'10 and weight of 135lbs lol. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On April 02 2010 13:38 unknown.sam wrote: maybe he means 235? it has to be a typo. i don't see how he can carry 40 extra lbs at a height of 5'10 and weight of 135lbs lol. oh yeah, 235 would make more sense than 5'1. But if there's no typos this man needs some therapy or something. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
And I do weigh 135 lbs I don't carry an extra 40lbs,sry. I just mean... that some people do(computer engineers)... and I don't want to be like them. My normal weight last year was about 120... I fluctuate from fit to slightly flabby summer -> winter. I'm kinda skinny, though. | ||
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