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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
December 18 2012 17:04 GMT
#5121
FUCK DROW!!!!!
Its stupid enough how op she is, not only that but you will face her in every single game. Seriously drives me crazy.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
December 18 2012 17:24 GMT
#5122
I have a confession to make. If someone appears to have bad map awareness, I automatically assume they're a danger to society because they probably don't look at their rear view mirrors when they drive either.
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
December 18 2012 17:29 GMT
#5123
Pls don't play on EU server at this time of the day....
Oh god I want to cry right now.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 18 2012 17:38 GMT
#5124
On December 18 2012 19:26 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 14:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
[image loading]

Which modes/servers did you queue for, and at what time?

US East, AP and RD, started queue like ~20 minutes before midnight US Eastern Time.
itsthewoo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States260 Posts
December 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#5125
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.
-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
December 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5126
On December 19 2012 06:39 itsthewoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.


Uhhhh she's almost always run as a support.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5127
On December 19 2012 02:38 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 19:26 Alur wrote:
On December 18 2012 14:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
[image loading]

Which modes/servers did you queue for, and at what time?

US East, AP and RD, started queue like ~20 minutes before midnight US Eastern Time.

Strange, I would assume that would make for decent queue-times. Guess you guys were in bad luck, but enabling USW would probably help alot, considering how USW is probably peaking around that time.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
December 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#5128
On December 19 2012 06:39 itsthewoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.


she's mostly used as a 5th/4th position so...yeah. Most players don't even bother leveling Fiery Soul until level 10.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 18 2012 22:39 GMT
#5129
yeah fiery soul does not make lina a carry. It sounds like it does but the problem is that if you level it then you are taking points out of your nukes, and it doesnt add nearly enough on its own to make lina a significant physical carry. Not to mention her lack of escape or defense mechanism. She really is a support, although she can be played other ways in stomps, pubs, etc.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
December 18 2012 23:19 GMT
#5130
On December 19 2012 07:07 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:39 itsthewoo wrote:
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.


she's mostly used as a 5th/4th position so...yeah. Most players don't even bother leveling Fiery Soul until level 10.



There is some argument to getting it at 3 or 4 because the attack speed and move speed can equate to 2 extra aa's, which is more than the 80 dmg increase in leveling either one of her spells. I've done some maffcrafting on her before, and the math came out very close on levelling all 3 of her skills (within 30 damage on the combo). Some people level the dragon because it almost never misses while others level the stun because its more likely to be cast, even when running away. I like a level of fiery soul early because it can make her ganks terrifying.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 19 2012 00:13 GMT
#5131
On December 19 2012 08:19 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:07 hooahah wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:39 itsthewoo wrote:
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.


she's mostly used as a 5th/4th position so...yeah. Most players don't even bother leveling Fiery Soul until level 10.



There is some argument to getting it at 3 or 4 because the attack speed and move speed can equate to 2 extra aa's, which is more than the 80 dmg increase in leveling either one of her spells. I've done some maffcrafting on her before, and the math came out very close on levelling all 3 of her skills (within 30 damage on the combo). Some people level the dragon because it almost never misses while others level the stun because its more likely to be cast, even when running away. I like a level of fiery soul early because it can make her ganks terrifying.

I also think it's situational, for example if you have a luna in your team the aura means that fiery soul can become very interesting.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 00:19:54
December 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#5132
On December 19 2012 09:13 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:19 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On December 19 2012 07:07 hooahah wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:39 itsthewoo wrote:
On December 18 2012 15:17 BigO wrote:
Has anyone ever played in normal game with someone who picked a lina or lion that bought any support items at all? I just get the feeling everyone thinks they are the hardest of carries the world has ever seen.

To be honest, Lina isn't best used as a support due to Fiery Soul. Lion, on the other hand, is only really needed for his spells.


she's mostly used as a 5th/4th position so...yeah. Most players don't even bother leveling Fiery Soul until level 10.



There is some argument to getting it at 3 or 4 because the attack speed and move speed can equate to 2 extra aa's, which is more than the 80 dmg increase in leveling either one of her spells. I've done some maffcrafting on her before, and the math came out very close on levelling all 3 of her skills (within 30 damage on the combo). Some people level the dragon because it almost never misses while others level the stun because its more likely to be cast, even when running away. I like a level of fiery soul early because it can make her ganks terrifying.

I also think it's situational, for example if you have a luna in your team the aura means that fiery soul can become very interesting.


She is pretty situational a lot like her sister. When I play her which has not been in a while I usually put 1 in stun 1 in fiery soul and 1 in dragon slave then I usually just keep leveling dragon slave. The stun duration does not increase as you level it but the mana cost keeps going up (and you use it a ton). I think I usually level fiery soul before I start leveling the stun again as well. The movement speed/atk speed and massive amount of dmg you are already doing with the ult and dragon slave is pretty amazing.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
December 19 2012 01:32 GMT
#5133
I hate when people blame me for not calling miss when they die. Just watch the minimap. It takes literally 0.1 seconds, Jesus!
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
December 19 2012 06:45 GMT
#5134
Just had a game that makes me want to tear out my hair in frustration at the types of teammates I have the misfortune to get teamed with.

I go for wisp to support Riki at Dire top lane. All goes (exceptionally) well, riki gets 3 kills including a double kill and I get one. Then our solo mid leshrac says he has some urgent errands to do, and goes afk for ~10 minutes (no exaggeration) leaving the lane wide open for sf to farm his travels+shadow blade.

We still lead in teamkills by about 10 kills due to an excellently played axe and the fat riki. Skeleton king stays farming in the jungle, and then comes out to rosh. Then the skeleton king, after taking aegis, decides it would be cool to go for a rambo rush to destroy mid tower when we're scrambling to defend top against sf (our lanes got pushed in thanks to the lack of leshrac) and die to a phantom lancer, who farmed well thanks to us being incapable of covering all lanes (sf with travels is seriously horrifying).

Leshrac reconnects, but even then hope is lost; with all the bonus farming time they got with our afk leshrac, they have a fat naix, a fat sf, and a fat phantom lancer, along with a tiny and an alchemist (lane enemies for me and riki, they were the most underlevelled) do contribute stuns. We get pushed from every angle, and lose.

When I ask skeleton king: what were you thinking when you charged solo into the enemy base? The reply was "I was texting :D" Then, just my luck, the enemies decide its a great time to start BMing us for losing our lead.

When things like this happen, what can you do except curse your luck for getting such teammates?

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 07:19:44
December 19 2012 07:16 GMT
#5135
Welcome to my team.

[image loading]

Im seriously starting to feel sick. WHY DO I GET ALL THE RUSSIANS IN MY TEAM EVERY FUCKING TIME? My team chat hasn't been nothing but Cyrillic alphabets whole fucking time i que.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 19 2012 07:21 GMT
#5136
On December 19 2012 10:32 Locke- wrote:
I hate when people blame me for not calling miss when they die. Just watch the minimap. It takes literally 0.1 seconds, Jesus!


Takes the same time to call missing with the chat wheel.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
December 19 2012 08:35 GMT
#5137
On December 19 2012 02:04 StoRm_res wrote:
FUCK DROW!!!!!
Its stupid enough how op she is, not only that but you will face her in every single game. Seriously drives me crazy.


This!!!! A million times this!

Last game, they opposition had a drow picker, who thankfully was not very good, and after 20ish minutes, we were up 20 kills, 25k XP and 12k Gold. Could we finish them off? No.

We push mid and lose our bottom rax to the creep wave. We push bot and lose top lane to the creep wave.

Eventually we won, but it took 35 minutes longer (55 in total) with a huge advantage to cross the line. It felt like a marathon.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
December 19 2012 09:07 GMT
#5138
On December 19 2012 17:35 DR.Ham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 02:04 StoRm_res wrote:
FUCK DROW!!!!!
Its stupid enough how op she is, not only that but you will face her in every single game. Seriously drives me crazy.


This!!!! A million times this!

Last game, they opposition had a drow picker, who thankfully was not very good, and after 20ish minutes, we were up 20 kills, 25k XP and 12k Gold. Could we finish them off? No.

We push mid and lose our bottom rax to the creep wave. We push bot and lose top lane to the creep wave.

Eventually we won, but it took 35 minutes longer (55 in total) with a huge advantage to cross the line. It felt like a marathon.

I have already joined the dark side. Drow can be very fun, especially if you try fun builds. Dagon never fails to deliver.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 19 2012 10:43 GMT
#5139
Had a juggernaut who was mad that he missed first blood and proceeded to feed all game >_< (0-27), it's really going to be a problem because even if vavles bans him he can remake a new account very easily (it was an account with very few wins)
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10760 Posts
December 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#5140
On December 19 2012 18:07 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 17:35 DR.Ham wrote:
On December 19 2012 02:04 StoRm_res wrote:
FUCK DROW!!!!!
Its stupid enough how op she is, not only that but you will face her in every single game. Seriously drives me crazy.


This!!!! A million times this!

Last game, they opposition had a drow picker, who thankfully was not very good, and after 20ish minutes, we were up 20 kills, 25k XP and 12k Gold. Could we finish them off? No.

We push mid and lose our bottom rax to the creep wave. We push bot and lose top lane to the creep wave.

Eventually we won, but it took 35 minutes longer (55 in total) with a huge advantage to cross the line. It felt like a marathon.

I have already joined the dark side. Drow can be very fun, especially if you try fun builds. Dagon never fails to deliver.


Yesterday:

I random Viper against random Drow + Pudge mid.

After ~5 minutes Pudge goes off roaming so it's 1on1 with me having a big headstart (Pudge goes on a 11-0 rampage because sideliners were pure trash and 0 wards were placed, he won the game, not drow).. But back on drow:

I have more CS.
I have better Items.
I kill her when she's lvl 5 because she's dumb.. Or just knows that she is Drow and therefore can do whatever the fuck she wants and will end up stronger than any other hero anyway..
I am 3 (or almost 3) levels ahead.
She gets lvl 6... She is now stronger than me and can kill me in 6-7 Hits, which is way faster before my Ult/Autoattacks can kill her.

The game Ends and Drow is 0/3/3 (I killed her 2-3 times) and still the second strongest hero on the enemy team... In early/midgame.. As a fucking hardcarry.

Totally and utterly retarded hero design.
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