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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
December 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#5081
I just played with erm, how to describe him. He had like 30 or 40 (well, 2 last pages in game history) games as SF played in row (disrupted by some Tiny or Axe once or twice, guess some asshole took his SF ). You could think that he would have at least slight idea how to play that hero, right? Hehehe.

Starting items, TP scroll, 6 tangos, set of wards. Feeded NS before nightime, feeded trying to gank. 46 mins in game he had BKB and 450 gold boots. 0-13-6 or something score.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#5082
You must have played with captain Yomi.
Administrator
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 17 2012 10:01 GMT
#5083
On December 17 2012 18:29 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 18:07 BlitzerSC wrote:
I decide to play a game on EU-W, I first pick Morphling and my team proceed to pick FACELESS VOID, DROW RANGER, GYROCOPTER and DRAGON KNIGHT.
Welcome to high level matchmaking on EU server.

Going back to US east. I don't even know why the fuck I decided to queue on EU. That server is fucking shit.

Same thing happens to me all the time on US east/west. There are idiots everywhere, you can't escape them.


Never mind, I guess. Just finished playing a game on US east, I randomed Timber and called for mid then the next two picks were Bloodseeker and Invoker. Obviously the invoker had to go mid and he started trashtalking me in some eastern european language ( Who would have thought ? ). Add to that the fact that our Leshrac was a complete bitch, moaning and whining all game long.
I guess you were right, idiots are everywhere.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
December 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#5084
Just played with an idiot stack - pick all melee, then fuck up my jungle Enigma because I clearly have to stack and pull for the idiot Nyx who went solo safe lane. Obviously the pull gets intercepted and 3 minutes in I'm still level 1 woop woop. Highlights from the chat included:
"if we had picked ranged heroes we could win"
"but that would be boring"
Woohoo, nice playing with people who don't want to win. When the fed BH comes to gank me Nyx just lets me die, passing like 200 units away minding his own business. At that point I muted everyone with their shitty mics and background noise, couldn't bear listening to their bullshit any more.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 10:56:21
December 17 2012 10:55 GMT
#5085
I just started playing a bit of dota2 last couple of weeks when I have the time. It's a fun game and after practicing vs. bots I was reluctant to jump in against other players. Won the first 5 games easily but afterwards hell broke loose, the worst is when the game is actually close but you still know you are not going to win.. for example:

Doing decent with my mate in top lane (dire), when my glorious teammates in bottom go 1 8 as Lina and Rubick, can't remember what score he went, but he wasn't any asset to our team. Our last teammate, a Slark, was pretty decent, got tons of ganks, hit lvl 25 first with good items etc. Doesn't stop the fact that Lina decided to afk out at spawn halfway, Rubick not knowing what to do essentially turning every fight into a 3.5 vs 5 and Slark thinking he should be able to take one out and get away vs 5 ppl every other minute.. We kept going for it and lost after an hour.. TIME WELL SPENT &#*#($#
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#5086
Heroes picked and Timer shows 10secs to game start..NS TP's to bot lane
Wut?
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
December 17 2012 13:08 GMT
#5087
On December 17 2012 21:54 pyro19 wrote:
Heroes picked and Timer shows 10secs to game start..NS TP's to bot lane
Wut?

Haha that is the old troll, did that sometimes in HoN too, super funny to see the responses lol
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
December 17 2012 13:11 GMT
#5088
Buy smoke, everyone buy TP's, go bot, smoke and gank incoming newbs.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
December 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#5089
The classic game when you random first get a melee carry, then your team waits until after the enemy team all pick (decent mix of support / carry, ranged / melee) then they pick sven (1-8) dk (3-12) doom (vanguard 3-5). At least we had one ranged mid, who the team blamed all game for not ganking enough because we lost top and bot because all melee carry who need farm.

I would have re-picked a support if they had picked earlier. But no.

Genius.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#5090
On December 16 2012 21:04 DR.Ham wrote:
I must say, any time I see a two or 3 man group on my team, I feel like the game will not go well too. Either they are just terrible, or when they are actually good, seem to be total d-bags.


Or both. And I agree. And if, god forbid, you get a 4-man stack then guess who is going to be the scapegoat for every mistake?


On December 17 2012 01:58 arena_say_what wrote:
Playing on EU-West as soloq when your whole team is Russian, talking in Russian. Try your best to be nice but they ignore you. I ask them why they don't play on Russian servers where they can speak their language to people who can understand them, they just insult my mum and ignore me.


Best is when you got a whole team of russians talking in russian all game; then they start yelling abuse at you when you're not fighting when they're fighting and stuff. Apparently because everyone is supposed to understand russian or something, so you not understanding them is your problem.

Frankly I queue USEast now. And even THEN somehow get russians sometimes.


On December 17 2012 03:27 Asha` wrote:
Sometimes it's hard to accept that you can truly be as bad as the people you are matched up with. Euls first Drow one game, Bounty who abandons CM in offlane to go try jungle (where he even dies to neutrals) the next. People who random support not sharing support duties, nobody helping to buy detection vs invis, carries never buying bkb's blah blah blah.

Oh well, self improvement shall continue slowly T_T


Honestly I'm constantly staggered by the people I'm matched up with. I can last hit, I can play a variety of roles and not too bad a group of heroes now, I know key items and some rough item builds and regularly check up a variety of guides even in-game to grab item tips, I know how to lane control and stuff like that. I'm not good, but I know the basics of how to actually play.

So that said...how can people not understand not to push the lane early on? How can they not realise the importance of stacking and pulling? Why don't they realise how crucial it is to carry detection against invis heroes? How, in the name of GOD, can they NOT UNDERSTAND how important it is not to dump two carries in one lane and two supports in the other? And to not try to out-last-hit their own carry? I mean this is all so damn basic that ten minutes online learning to play will teach it to you.

And then you get the "hurr durr, I don't care its just a game" crowd screwing around. If you don't care then stop playing and go do something else rather than ruining it for everyone else.



As for myself...six game losing streak....AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH. One win in the past TEN matches. This game REALLY wants me down at 50% again after I dared to creep up to around 53% or something.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Nahsom
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria361 Posts
December 17 2012 15:45 GMT
#5091
To-Do-List:
Play Support as Jakkiro [x]
Buy wards and chicken [x]
Proceed to die because team cant play together[x]
Get flamed for feeding[x]
Switch back to mid hero[ ]
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
December 17 2012 20:38 GMT
#5092
I tried to create a new account for the heroes I actually know, picked advanced because I thought I will have better players (high or very).
In my first game, Huskar calls mid, after that, invoker goes mid and they fight over it, invoker goes ganking, succeeds, and Huskar goes jungling and constantly tells the other team (with pudge) where's everyone in my team is.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
December 18 2012 03:25 GMT
#5093
45 minutes into the game, wards and everything during the entire game, ez lanes, ganking everywhere, we even had a solid lead in kills....

NS has a fucking halebard and a MoM, AM has a vanguard, yasha and a BKB..

fuck supporting, creepwave after creepwave available for safe farm, how the fuck...

im making not playing a support role my second rule in this game.

never
again
a support
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
December 18 2012 03:30 GMT
#5094
On December 18 2012 12:25 SKYFISH_ wrote:
45 minutes into the game, wards and everything during the entire game, ez lanes, ganking everywhere, we even had a solid lead in kills....

NS has a fucking halebard and a MoM, AM has a vanguard, yasha and a BKB..

fuck supporting, creepwave after creepwave available for safe farm, how the fuck...

im making not playing a support role my second rule in this game.

never
again
a support


This is a vicious cycle though, see how you feel after your third game in a row when your whole team is melee carries.

MM really can be the worst. My last game have 2 friends who call for top lane (as radiant) then discuss how the best laner's are Gankers so they pick BH and Nyx in the same lane. Didn't take long for the opposition to buy one set of wards then stomp the living shit out of them. I say to them to swap lanes, but no. They feed up the sven until he is 19-2-4. GG.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
December 18 2012 03:51 GMT
#5095
Anyone here play with two accounts? One for solo and one to play with friends? If so, does it help? I'm at the point where I can't play with anyone else because when I do the game is a rage fest because of the skill disparity.
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 04:02:55
December 18 2012 03:58 GMT
#5096
On December 18 2012 12:51 Gentso wrote:
Anyone here play with two accounts? One for solo and one to play with friends? If so, does it help? I'm at the point where I can't play with anyone else because when I do the game is a rage fest because of the skill disparity.


No it does not help. I see all these guys with smurf accounts. Man do they have it wrong. Its one thing to use a smurf account while practicing as a pro. Its another thing to use it because you think W/L ratio is what MMR is based off of.

MMR is a black box calculation. Some facts that are discovered after playing thousands of games: Its individual based, performance based, and therefore losing with your friends does not necessarily mean it goes down. Calm your beards, you just need to make sure you play like you think you should be playing (killing, decent gpm/xpm, assists, and lots of other stuff). Once you're good enough to do well with/without a strong team (aka. you don't rage anymore because you've gotten to that enlightenment stage), you'll start to raise your solo queue mmr up to move up the tiers. When you feel like playing with friends, you'll probably notice that games are easier because you're better, and that the average MMR tier drops back down so that you're playing with less skilled people. Then you can stomp or maybe you'll still lose because your friends are that bad. Its ok though, you'll still solo queue right back into very high.

I do this on a daily basis. Queue with friends who are clearly subpar players (don't know skill builds, item builds, map awareness, micro control, zoning, and other mechanics, or don't even have optimal key setups) and it puts me in normal or high. The players who I play against in normal or high are clearly WORSE than those in very high by a fair amount. This is to say very high still has plenty of players who do poorly, but there's a difference. People will say the brackets don't matter, but those guys are assholes who are looking to troll. Everyone knows that they really want to be in that very high bracket if they are looking for decent games.

So we win a few and maybe lose a few. It might be the friends faults or maybe some teammates. Sometimes we get matched against a 5 stack in normal. Man they can really play decently when coordinated and on ventrillo/skype (I even watched a team's stream while playing against them). But when I go back to queuing...BAM, very high and its a whole different world.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
December 18 2012 03:59 GMT
#5097
was stacking with some cool swedish dudes. unfortunatly we didnt find a 5th and they still wanted to queue -cm...of course we got a random captain. his picks were fine but he picked SF for him mid and proceeds into going 0:5 vs a puck. then he starts blaming his team and screams "now we lose 2 lanes gj"....funny thing our tri lane top(we were radiant) raped the sven tri lane of them. while i won my lane with magnus vs. bh -.-....he then went on to go aquilla shadow blade after being so much behind and afk farming not careing about team fights or tower defence.........

then i checked his profile and saw that sf was his best hero...i mean wtf how bad are the other heroes then? jesus....some people.......
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
December 18 2012 04:03 GMT
#5098
On December 18 2012 12:59 MotherOfRunes wrote:
was stacking with some cool swedish dudes. unfortunatly we didnt find a 5th and they still wanted to queue -cm...of course we got a random captain. his picks were fine but he picked SF for him mid and proceeds into going 0:5 vs a puck. then he starts blaming his team and screams "now we lose 2 lanes gj"....funny thing our tri lane top(we were radiant) raped the sven tri lane of them. while i won my lane with magnus vs. bh -.-....he then went on to go aquilla shadow blade after being so much behind and afk farming not careing about team fights or tower defence.........

then i checked his profile and saw that sf was his best hero...i mean wtf how bad are the other heroes then? jesus....some people.......


Best hero only means they have the most wins with it. So its not a good indicator with skill, only play time (which could be indicator except difficultly varies with opponents).
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 04:14:00
December 18 2012 04:13 GMT
#5099
On December 18 2012 13:03 Avs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 12:59 MotherOfRunes wrote:
was stacking with some cool swedish dudes. unfortunatly we didnt find a 5th and they still wanted to queue -cm...of course we got a random captain. his picks were fine but he picked SF for him mid and proceeds into going 0:5 vs a puck. then he starts blaming his team and screams "now we lose 2 lanes gj"....funny thing our tri lane top(we were radiant) raped the sven tri lane of them. while i won my lane with magnus vs. bh -.-....he then went on to go aquilla shadow blade after being so much behind and afk farming not careing about team fights or tower defence.........

then i checked his profile and saw that sf was his best hero...i mean wtf how bad are the other heroes then? jesus....some people.......


Best hero only means they have the most wins with it. So its not a good indicator with skill, only play time (which could be indicator except difficultly varies with opponents).

yeah i know. but how can you be that bad with him if you played him so friggin many times
he even has sf as his profile picture
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
December 18 2012 05:10 GMT
#5100
I usually hate QQing on forums but I'm on the edge here:

Why are people so mean?
Why do they pick support heroes and build carry items (then rage at the team because they lose)?
Why do people become so arrogant when they're "winning"? Tell a guy that has 5-0 to come and help you. He'll go apeshit.
Why do people just farm enemies at the fountain instead of just killing the Ancient? (I begged my team mates for 5 minutes earlier to just finish the game instead of hooking afk enemies in their base)
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