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On December 06 2012 03:02 MotherOfRunes wrote:
i qq about all the ppl qqing about drow....i mean it was not necessary (and should be fixed) to make her ulti global but she is not a broken hero. she is still squishy as fuck and easy gankable. i mean sure when you are stupid enough to walk alone into her silence with something like tiny *cough*.........sure you can say now "but wtf what is when they play a good 4 protect 1 *cry* *cry*"....well if you see a "good" 4 protect 1 in a pub, this team wins with every other hard carry too -.-
Her ulti isn't global and i don't think you even comprehend the effect her new aura has, even a drow with bad farm at level 16 will add ~50 damage to all ranged creeps, including siege creeps. With even semi-decent items this damage increases a ton.
Making them deal more damage than mega creeps, the advantage this gives in terms of split pushing is just absolutely ridic.
She IS broken in her current state, but it's not because of her slow, silence or ulti.
I'm going to bring this video up, AGAIN.
+ Show Spoiler +
This is disgusting and shouldn't be possible.
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On December 06 2012 03:15 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:02 MotherOfRunes wrote:
i qq about all the ppl qqing about drow....i mean it was not necessary (and should be fixed) to make her ulti global but she is not a broken hero. she is still squishy as fuck and easy gankable. i mean sure when you are stupid enough to walk alone into her silence with something like tiny *cough*.........sure you can say now "but wtf what is when they play a good 4 protect 1 *cry* *cry*"....well if you see a "good" 4 protect 1 in a pub, this team wins with every other hard carry too -.-
Her ulti isn't global and i don't think you even comprehend the effect her new aura has, even a drow with bad farm at level 16 will add ~50 damage to all ranged creeps, including siege creeps. With even semi-decent items this damage increases a ton. Making them deal more damage than mega creeps, the advantage this gives in terms of split pushing is just absolutely ridic. She IS broken in her current state, but it's not because of her slow, silence or ulti. I'm going to bring this video up, AGAIN. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh88NkHDFEE This is disgusting and shouldn't be possible.
well i stick with puppeys oppinion that she is not broken....he explained it very well on his stream recently...but hey you are free to think what u want
and i didnt mean ulti i meant aura, sry
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On December 05 2012 18:51 bailando wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:23 itsthewoo wrote:
Why don't you just abandon if you're expecting to qq like that? ok so no abadon: russians. abadon and low priority: ??? im scared of even thinking what awaits me there.
You get something like one abandon a day, and I don't think early abandon counts as an abandon (though I haven't tested this; it just doesn't show up as an abandon on my DotA profile).
I abandon if my team makes blatantly poor hero choices without communication, or if I hear someone that sounds like he'll be obnoxious.
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On December 06 2012 03:15 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:02 MotherOfRunes wrote:
i qq about all the ppl qqing about drow....i mean it was not necessary (and should be fixed) to make her ulti global but she is not a broken hero. she is still squishy as fuck and easy gankable. i mean sure when you are stupid enough to walk alone into her silence with something like tiny *cough*.........sure you can say now "but wtf what is when they play a good 4 protect 1 *cry* *cry*"....well if you see a "good" 4 protect 1 in a pub, this team wins with every other hard carry too -.-
Her ulti isn't global and i don't think you even comprehend the effect her new aura has, even a drow with bad farm at level 16 will add ~50 damage to all ranged creeps, including siege creeps. With even semi-decent items this damage increases a ton. Making them deal more damage than mega creeps, the advantage this gives in terms of split pushing is just absolutely ridic. She IS broken in her current state, but it's not because of her slow, silence or ulti. I'm going to bring this video up, AGAIN. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh88NkHDFEE This is disgusting and shouldn't be possible.
LOL that is... so balanced.
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On December 06 2012 01:26 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 00:22 Zealos wrote:On December 06 2012 00:21 ZasZ. wrote:On December 06 2012 00:13 Zealos wrote:
This is probably me being dumb, but 60% slow on auto cast for 12 mana seems utter bs from every fucking angle. There's only one angle on a 60% slow on auto cast for 12 mana...the other angles are a 6 second aoe silence, ridiculously scaling agility, and a global damage bonus that is based off of your ridiculously scaling agility. All those angles are broken too so you may as well just talk about the hero as a whole. Drow has some issues. I see. Well, that is understandable then. I tried to play her at mid and she just destroyed me super fast :/ I remember Me lvl 9 Tiny. There lvl 9 drow. "Easykill i think". Run up with Phase/Drums to combo... "Silence"... I'm dead before i can cast a spell. Pewpew.... Damage on that bitch is just beyond ridiculous.
Ew, at level 9, she should only have level1 silence which only last 3 sec. If you die in 3 sec, I don't think the problem is in her silence spell.
Or if she max Silence, not Frost Arrow, PhraseDrum have no problem getting Tiny appoarch Drow.
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Had a game where we had a tri-lane of undying, jak(me), and Ez agaisnt AA, magnus, and spec. We should have fuckign dominated that shit.
Except our retarded undying kept running in in stupid out of position places, getting skewered into towers, and fucking losing the lane. That asshole went 0-3 in three minutes. Just died, respawned, died, repawned, died, respawned, died.
One time he was even like "go" and I was like "fuck no, I am oom". And he fuckign went anyways. And died. And I was like god dammnit, I told you I was out.
assdfdsgagfsd. Fuck.
Plus i just fucking hate magnus in general, too. That asshole pretty much solokilled our whole team. Blink in, reverse polarity two or three, skewer out into their team, gg no re. Fuckign predictable, but how the god damn hell do you stop it? Every fuckin time.
Edit: Wow, apparently when I am pissed I can't type "-ing"
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ya aura is kinda broken as is warcry. puppey explained it on TalkDota last night. pretty good stuff u shoul watch it.
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On December 06 2012 03:15 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:02 MotherOfRunes wrote:
i qq about all the ppl qqing about drow....i mean it was not necessary (and should be fixed) to make her ulti global but she is not a broken hero. she is still squishy as fuck and easy gankable. i mean sure when you are stupid enough to walk alone into her silence with something like tiny *cough*.........sure you can say now "but wtf what is when they play a good 4 protect 1 *cry* *cry*"....well if you see a "good" 4 protect 1 in a pub, this team wins with every other hard carry too -.-
Her ulti isn't global and i don't think you even comprehend the effect her new aura has, even a drow with bad farm at level 16 will add ~50 damage to all ranged creeps, including siege creeps. With even semi-decent items this damage increases a ton. Making them deal more damage than mega creeps, the advantage this gives in terms of split pushing is just absolutely ridic. She IS broken in her current state, but it's not because of her slow, silence or ulti. I'm going to bring this video up, AGAIN. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh88NkHDFEE This is disgusting and shouldn't be possible.
LOL best vid, had a good laugh. Icefrog please nerf
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I am bad at Dota 2.
Mechanically, I'm typically superior to most everyone I play with (I 100% believe the only acceptable reason to miss a CS is because you would die getting it. Not that I'm anywhere near that rate, but even in high level games you find players that are like "I'll AA and hope I beat the minions!" instead of that challenging right click on low ones with correct timing) but I just can't bring myself to care about mobility itemisation.
But here's how bad I am: Play game, random veno, figure "Why not buy courrier for team". 40 minutes later, I'm the only player who has used it. I also, despite giving all lane CS to weaver, still manage to end the game with the 2nd most CS in game because apparently 58 CS at 40 minutes is too challenging a highmark to beat for both teams.
On the plus side, I apparently probably deserve those teams.
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my QQ: playing support fucking sucks
playing as a support Weaver (because lina and lion are too busy carrying), everyone else has 2000+ gold and several items I barely have a ring of Aquila 40 minutes into the gake
"hey can anyone upgrade the courier" (which I bought)
"..."
"anyone?"
someone did it out of pity I guess, but yeah. I don't need to mention that we had no wards either, right? I was also solo suicide lane vs Lich/Void
another game, playing a support Omniknight, I'm supporting like a boss all of my 4 semi/carries (QOP Drow Void and some other guy)
because kunkka and TA I'm carrying dust, so between that/TP/items I have no slots left. I look at my teammates, all of them have item slots to spare (QOP has 3 item slots - rushed Agahim)
"hey can someone carry the wards? I have no space left"
"..."
"I'll buy it, you just need to carry it"
"..."
eventually the Void helped carry it so that's like one good player out of 80% players that don't appreciate supports
people complain that All Pick mode is Carry mode - I disagree. Single Draft mode is worse - since I can't gauge if my teammates know if their hero is a Support OR how to play Support.
support weaver/silencer? awww yeah
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On December 06 2012 04:43 Fuzzmosis wrote:
I am bad at Dota 2.
Mechanically, I'm typically superior to most everyone I play with (I 100% believe the only acceptable reason to miss a CS is because you would die getting it. Not that I'm anywhere near that rate, but even in high level games you find players that are like "I'll AA and hope I beat the minions!" instead of that challenging right click on low ones with correct timing) but I just can't bring myself to care about mobility itemisation.
But here's how bad I am: Play game, random veno, figure "Why not buy courrier for team". 40 minutes later, I'm the only player who has used it. I also, despite giving all lane CS to weaver, still manage to end the game with the 2nd most CS in game because apparently 58 CS at 40 minutes is too challenging a highmark to beat for both teams.
On the plus side, I apparently probably deserve those teams.
playing a support is commendable, but if you see your teammate can't lasthit worth shit then either explain it to him (and hope he gets better) or start carrying yourself
I also can't share your experience of not using a courier, I don't think I've had a game yet where none of my teammates used the courier.
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Its always funny when people are grouped up buddy-buddy. You're the outsider so no matter what you're doing you're going to get the abuse. Two pairs of friends (not sure if all four queuing together, but at least two pairs here, I checked profiles briefly).
These geniuses decided to play a solo safe (he claimed it instantly) PA, a jungling Nyx, a mid Venomancer and an offlane Ogre against a lineup pushing with Broodmother and KotL. Going to be hard to hold the towers...probably lose a lane but we should be able to hold the rest. I'm Jakiro and forced to get courier (of course Ogre not going to and Veno not going to be able to due to being solo mid). So I do. Then I head down to suicide lane.
PA does precisely nothing and gets pushed back to tower. Ogre manages to feed heroically whilst I trade a couple kills. Nyx does semi-ok. Veno gets pushed back starts to take a lot of damage as well (against a Tinker who went for fast mana boots...).
So what have we got? A PA who is getting a bit of farm but losing a hell of a lot of ground. A Nyx jungling as average as Nyx jungles. An Ogre who appears to be playing for the other team and a Veno who can't hold a Tinker who literally has no clue whatsoever. I deny our tower, PA actually loses hers. Then the push for the next ones and mid starts to grind ahead.
Get to midgame and we're not far off losing. Right then the accusations start coming, but since I'm the only one on my own guess who gets the blame? "You fed Keeper!" Wait what? I'm 2-2. Your friend is 0-8. "WE HAD NO WARDS FOR THE WHOLE GAME!" Well excuse me if I'm trying to get anything at all up to prevent your friend from constantly flat out DYING in our lane with no farm of my own to do it with because I'm giving it all to him in the desparate hope he might actually not die with some items. "You suck." Clearly I'm not able to keep up with your masterplan of donating all of the outer towers to straight pushes within the lane (Not even due to ganks coming from side, but apparently wards slow down in-lane pushes? Who knew?).
Of course before I knew they were buddy-buddy I tried to rationally explain the problems with this particular laning setup. But no, they'd prefer to bitch about me not getting wards (which would have done basically dick in terms of what the opponent was doing) and apparently feeding (with an even K/D ratio).
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Random draft, picked TA, team didn't pick that bad.
I go mid lane and it's duo, Tidehunter and Sniper.
I can't do shit in the lane, 10 min only 10 last hits, the headshot ministun procs don't let me do anything. If it was 1v1 against Sniper I'd do fine, but with Tide, it's not that hard to die if I get caught out of position.
Fuck that hero.
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On December 06 2012 06:45 Bleak wrote:
Random draft, picked TA, team didn't pick that bad.
I go mid lane and it's duo, Tidehunter and Sniper.
I can't do shit in the lane, 10 min only 10 last hits, the headshot ministun procs don't let me do anything. If it was 1v1 against Sniper I'd do fine, but with Tide, it's not that hard to die if I get caught out of position.
Fuck that hero.
Well, to be fair, your teammates should have taken advantage of that situation by punishing their solo laner. Their team just did a great job of preventing you from having game impact.
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Fucking joke! So I am teaching a few buddies of mine DotA for the past few weeks and starting this week they've started playing against other players and for the 2nd time today and for like the 8th time this week we've faced some tryhard 5man stack. I've created a 2nd account for just playing with my buddies and they are roughly around 40~ games by now - I have around 30, because I'm still playing on my actual account in the meantime.
Enemy lineup from just now: Batrider mid, Trilane consisting of Tide, Luna and Rubick top [they were Dire] and an offlane Gondar, while we had: Pudge + Sniper bot, Ogre Magi [buddy of mine trying to learn DotA] + Omni top and Furion mid [me]
My lane went fairly well, considering I was Furion against a Batrider, Neither of us got kills, I got the tower and watching the replay afterwards, I saw that I even beat him in cs quite easily. The enemy trilane simply raped my buddy and that other guy. Their offlane Gondar didn't die once and Pudge and Sniper were competing for each others farm, while not pulling at all.
I am not complaining, that my teammates were bad, because well: I am playing with a newbie to teach him how the game is played, so I naturally get teamed up with other newbies, however we get matched against people who have around 2 times as much games and obviously were partying up. There definetly should be an option against this shit. Two people playing together on the enemy team? Fine. 2*2 people and one random guy playing together? Fine as well. Three or more people stacking up? Well have fun playing against a stack of similar number as well!
Currently it's just like: Oh you're playing with a single friend? Let's see how you and your new to DotA buddy will do in freaking TI3 grand finals against a team of full 5, while we get you some random guys from the street, who've never met each other, neither have you met them. Oh and by the way, the might not even speak your language and not even use the chatwheel. hf gl bro!
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On December 06 2012 06:34 Lightspeaker wrote:
Its always funny when people are grouped up buddy-buddy. You're the outsider so no matter what you're doing you're going to get the abuse. Two pairs of friends (not sure if all four queuing together, but at least two pairs here, I checked profiles briefly).
These geniuses decided to play a solo safe (he claimed it instantly) PA, a jungling Nyx, a mid Venomancer and an offlane Ogre against a lineup pushing with Broodmother and KotL. Going to be hard to hold the towers...probably lose a lane but we should be able to hold the rest. I'm Jakiro and forced to get courier (of course Ogre not going to and Veno not going to be able to due to being solo mid). So I do. Then I head down to suicide lane.
PA does precisely nothing and gets pushed back to tower. Ogre manages to feed heroically whilst I trade a couple kills. Nyx does semi-ok. Veno gets pushed back starts to take a lot of damage as well (against a Tinker who went for fast mana boots...).
So what have we got? A PA who is getting a bit of farm but losing a hell of a lot of ground. A Nyx jungling as average as Nyx jungles. An Ogre who appears to be playing for the other team and a Veno who can't hold a Tinker who literally has no clue whatsoever. I deny our tower, PA actually loses hers. Then the push for the next ones and mid starts to grind ahead.
Get to midgame and we're not far off losing. Right then the accusations start coming, but since I'm the only one on my own guess who gets the blame? "You fed Keeper!" Wait what? I'm 2-2. Your friend is 0-8. "WE HAD NO WARDS FOR THE WHOLE GAME!" Well excuse me if I'm trying to get anything at all up to prevent your friend from constantly flat out DYING in our lane with no farm of my own to do it with because I'm giving it all to him in the desparate hope he might actually not die with some items. "You suck." Clearly I'm not able to keep up with your masterplan of donating all of the outer towers to straight pushes within the lane (Not even due to ganks coming from side, but apparently wards slow down in-lane pushes? Who knew?).
Of course before I knew they were buddy-buddy I tried to rationally explain the problems with this particular laning setup. But no, they'd prefer to bitch about me not getting wards (which would have done basically dick in terms of what the opponent was doing) and apparently feeding (with an even K/D ratio).
this is always the funniest, it's like they know they're at fault but they're too big of pussies to call out their stack partners on their mistakes.
It's been so bad sometimes that I've been accused of feeding first blood (straight contrary to how the game actually unfolded-one time I was accused of feeding FB and when I pointed out I helped OUR TEAM get it I was told "noob watch replay") and shit when I carried the team for practically 90% of the game. Once last week I played exort invoker mid, went 10-0-20 and basically kept killing people at every opportunity I got. I ganked as much as I could, aided with sunstrikes (almost all of them hitting for full damage and not KSing, or only taking the kill when they let the hero escape with no health) helped defend/push towers with alacrity and spirits, was part of every teamfight, etc. etc.
Score was 55-52 or something ludicrous like that slightly in our favor. I died 0 times, which meant that my teammates made up for that by dying 25% more than our opponents.
All four of them were stacked. Guess who got blamed for our loss?
It was just hilarious hearing them rage about how I never ganked enough, I was too passive, didn't die with them, the only reason I was doing well was cause I have shadowwalk, etc. etc. All the while they continue feeding the enemy BS and ursa. We could never defend or teamfight properly because someone would constantly be dead-they'd just get picked off every 45 seconds.
Finally I died twice (died once, bought back, died later defending rax) and we lost. Ended 12-2-27 with the most CS on the team and level 25 before anyone else. Such a stupid game lol.
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One of those golden /facepalm moments that are just hilarious, experienced earlier:
Shadowfiend mid on my team, zero levels into Raze by level 12..
Me: "Wtf, no levels into raze? you serious?"
Them: "I'm going carry spec sf noob"
He then proceeds to buy a Morbid mask for lifesteal after getting treads and just sit and auto-attack farm in the jungle constantly.
Game was a loss, of course.
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On December 06 2012 04:49 hooahah wrote:
I also can't share your experience of not using a courier, I don't think I've had a game yet where none of my teammates used the courier.
I have!
It went poorly.
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On December 06 2012 00:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
low priority sucks =/
Not if you have friends. Just play 5 man pre-made and stomp it dead
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play Silencer, got mana boots early game. Mid game decided to switch to Thread coz need the HP.
go to fountain buy Gloves and Belt then click dissamble.
then this RUSSIAN AM that have not stop talking the whole game long while only having 30 minutes Bfury solo easy lane vs solo Lesh pick up my Mana Booster, BLINK OUT OF THE FOUNTAIN, DROP IT , DESTROY IT THEN LAUGH LIKE A RETARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YOU you FUCKING RUSSIAN ASSHOLE
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