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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 06 2012 13:27 GMT
#4701
On December 06 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
I've done that before when I challenged myself to play games with only passives, pls no flame.


He went mid (he didnt even say 'mid or feed', he said 'feed')and totally serious with his build ('idi nahuy', 'russian mafiay is gonna come to you') and he is a russian i checked his profile.

I have heard about this infamous drow build but never seen a 'serious' one in my game!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
December 06 2012 14:06 GMT
#4702
On December 06 2012 22:14 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 18:39 eu.exodus wrote:
On December 06 2012 18:13 Unleashing wrote:
On December 06 2012 17:55 eu.exodus wrote:
wtf is up with Russians that think dazzle is a carry? Oh my fuck.

the only support on the team. Starting items are claws and tangos. No courier, no wards. I ask him wtf over voice and the asshole has the indecency to tell me to to speak Russian on Europe server. All he says is 'I carry' He roams the map trying to kill shit alone by using poison then ulti and tries to right click shit to death. obviously the only thing he achieves is feed them.

He then "rushes" daedalus for some fucking unknown reason. Fuck pubs.

Of course Dazzlelator is a carry.

Also, most russian speakers are europeans, why is it indecent to speak russian on the european servers? You don't need to be russian to speak it, you know.


true but,

1. He was definitely Russian.

2. If you're playing on a Russian server everyone will speak Russian and understand every word/insult that comes out of your mouth. Why ruin the game for everyone? If you insist on speaking Russian play on that server! You won't find me on the Russian server speaking English and expecting people to understand me and have the audacity to tell people to speak my language on the server specifically designated for people who speak your language?

3. I resort to using Google translate in the middle of games to communicate with these people to just get the info across. 9 times out of 10 you get the response "I fuck your mother! My dog fuck your mother!"


Doesn't change that european servers aren't english only. And you can still be european and russian at the same time.
Because your post seems to heavily imply that european servers = english is what needs to be spoken.

Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 20:24 deichkind wrote:
starting to get an intense dislike of russians. no its not their play or something, its their constant spam in chat, so annoying to constantly have to have their retarded letter spammed on the screen. And doesnt matter if you tell them, or how you tell them, to use english all you get back is "fuck you noob". Cant they just go to their own server?
/sigh

Mute annoying people who spam.
There are also people who spam and write pointless stuff in english, and people who go "Fuck you noob" in english, they are just as bad.


no. In a game where communication is key. You find a middle ground. English isn't my 1st language, doesn't mean I should be a smug cunt and expect everyone to suddenly understand my language even though I can speak and understand English perfectly. If you can speak the language fucking speak it. If you can't, play on a server where people WILL understand you. Its common courtesy and only makes sense in a team game.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
December 06 2012 14:12 GMT
#4703
I jokingly said "report void please" after he landed a really good ulti and killed 3 of them (at this point he has butterfly and more)

he got so offended he just left the teamfights and went on to farm at the jungle for 10 pointless minutes. When asked to come help in teamfights he said "no you reported me fuck you, you fight alone"

holy fucking shit
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 14:18:59
December 06 2012 14:17 GMT
#4704
I miss the dota-league rules where you ccould only speak English in-game or you would get banned.
DotA is making me racist, Russians are horrible. I also wonder how they always know that there are other Russians in the enemy team, I guess they just randomly start spamming Russian till somebody answers, and then keep spamming. Also, most Russians are fucking bad at this game. There is a fucking Russian server. Lately I have been thinking to play on the Russian server, as obviously all Russians are playing at the EU west server.
/QQ

Oh well, I can't complain too much, had a 13 win streak this weekend. Followed by 9-6.
I had a good night of sleep.
Replice
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway93 Posts
December 06 2012 14:20 GMT
#4705
On December 06 2012 21:21 BurningSera wrote:
bahahaha the legendary russian drow:

[image loading]


You seem to be the Legendary British Alchemist! Dem stats!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 06 2012 14:34 GMT
#4706
On December 06 2012 23:20 Replice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:21 BurningSera wrote:
bahahaha the legendary russian drow:

[image loading]


You seem to be the Legendary British Alchemist! Dem stats!


Seriously. Drow was in on over half of your team's kills. Whatever went wrong that game was not her fault.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 06 2012 14:36 GMT
#4707
On December 06 2012 23:34 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:20 Replice wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:21 BurningSera wrote:
bahahaha the legendary russian drow:

[image loading]


You seem to be the Legendary British Alchemist! Dem stats!


Seriously. Drow was in on over half of your team's kills. Whatever went wrong that game was not her fault.


1) Only noobs judge the skill of a player base on their ingame stats

2) He never said that the game went wrong because of Drow Ranger.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
December 06 2012 14:46 GMT
#4708
Wow , im so enraged right now , playing bounty hunter , everything is going well , they buy a gemstone , we lose some teamfights , we finally win one , lion picks up the gemstone , and despite my repeated urging to drop and destroy it he kept running around with it until he invariably got himself killed and gave it back to them.

He was russian btw. fuck him.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 14:55:15
December 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#4709
On December 06 2012 23:06 eu.exodus wrote:
no. In a game where communication is key. You find a middle ground. English isn't my 1st language, doesn't mean I should be a smug cunt and expect everyone to suddenly understand my language even though I can speak and understand English perfectly. If you can speak the language fucking speak it. If you can't, play on a server where people WILL understand you. Its common courtesy and only makes sense in a team game.

But there are plenty of people who speak english just fine who refuse to communicate or play as a team, they are PLENTYFUL. But what about polish people who don't speak english? I meet those often, what should they do? Play on the non-existant polish servers?

European servers aren't english-only. Any european language flies in EUROPEAN SERVER.

I never said i don't think everybody should speak english, but it's not only russians who refuse to communicate as a team, so just saying LOL DEM RUSSIANS, RIGHT? RUINING ALL MY GAMES. It's just xenophobia. But whatever, i've taken this discussion one time too many.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
December 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#4710
On December 06 2012 23:54 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:06 eu.exodus wrote:
no. In a game where communication is key. You find a middle ground. English isn't my 1st language, doesn't mean I should be a smug cunt and expect everyone to suddenly understand my language even though I can speak and understand English perfectly. If you can speak the language fucking speak it. If you can't, play on a server where people WILL understand you. Its common courtesy and only makes sense in a team game.

But there are plenty of people who speak english just fine who refuse to communicate or play as a team, they are PLENTYFUL. But what about polish people who don't speak english? I meet those often, what should they do? Play on the non-existant polish servers?

European servers aren't english-only. Any european language flies in EUROPEAN SERVER.

I never said i don't think everybody should speak english, but it's not only russians who refuse to communicate as a team, so just saying LOL DEM RUSSIANS, RIGHT? RUINING ALL MY GAMES. It's just xenophobia. But whatever, i've taken this discussion one time too many.


I've never met anyone who wrote in Polish.
Two times in portugese.
100+ in Russian.
It's not Xenophobic, if anything, they are.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 06 2012 15:24 GMT
#4711
On December 06 2012 23:54 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:06 eu.exodus wrote:
no. In a game where communication is key. You find a middle ground. English isn't my 1st language, doesn't mean I should be a smug cunt and expect everyone to suddenly understand my language even though I can speak and understand English perfectly. If you can speak the language fucking speak it. If you can't, play on a server where people WILL understand you. Its common courtesy and only makes sense in a team game.

But there are plenty of people who speak english just fine who refuse to communicate or play as a team, they are PLENTYFUL. But what about polish people who don't speak english? I meet those often, what should they do? Play on the non-existant polish servers?

European servers aren't english-only. Any european language flies in EUROPEAN SERVER.

I never said i don't think everybody should speak english, but it's not only russians who refuse to communicate as a team, so just saying LOL DEM RUSSIANS, RIGHT? RUINING ALL MY GAMES. It's just xenophobia. But whatever, i've taken this discussion one time too many.


Over 950+ games, I only observed flame over voice by Russians in Russian. Rarely, there are some different voice chats has occurred but they turned out to be English speakers and not flame but speak with their teammates. Once their is 3 man one women Spanish-like stack and they use English to communicate with me.
I couldn't understand Russian but sometimes I figured out from their tones that they said more than just flame.

Refusing to play as a team is just a sign of being noob, nothing about nationality. Russians are more than that with voice and chat abuse, disturb others with Russian flame and swears(feels like it) and ruin games with super egos. They do the same thing with other nations but in a more disturbing way. Also they have a legit Russian server that is supposed to stop this. They don't care this fact and it strengthen general claims about them.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:41:52
December 06 2012 15:38 GMT
#4712
On December 06 2012 20:05 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
If you ended up with 3-13 you played like shit or got really unlucky regardless of what role you played. If it happens regularly you simply don't know how to play a good support.


Because clearly supports should be taking all of the kills amirite?

Everyone sucks at support obviously. Look at any support's games where they're actually doing support stuff, most of the time they get hardly any kills and let all the carries get them. Most be terribad players. As Firebolt pointed out that Maelk guy...must be awful I mean 0-20 wtf?

Oh wait...


On December 06 2012 20:12 StoRm_res wrote:

In all fairness, you shouldnt die 13 times in 30 min even i you play hard support, but I know, you're so fucking squishy if you buy nothing but wards and get no farm. But yeah, people are fucking unthankful if you play support, I think is because they underestimate how important wards are.


*shrug* Game hit nearly 60 minutes and finished 4-13. Basically as soon as I wasn't having to try to protect the suicidal ganking clockwerk in my lane (because he wandered off to jungle) I stopped dying.

Taking care of another player to get them farm feels like trying to look after a rather suicidal small child sometimes.


On December 06 2012 23:34 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:20 Replice wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:21 BurningSera wrote:
bahahaha the legendary russian drow:

[image loading]


You seem to be the Legendary British Alchemist! Dem stats!


Seriously. Drow was in on over half of your team's kills. Whatever went wrong that game was not her fault.


He's not talking about things going wrong necessarily. Look at the picture again. Specifically look at her items and her skills.


On December 06 2012 23:54 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:06 eu.exodus wrote:
no. In a game where communication is key. You find a middle ground. English isn't my 1st language, doesn't mean I should be a smug cunt and expect everyone to suddenly understand my language even though I can speak and understand English perfectly. If you can speak the language fucking speak it. If you can't, play on a server where people WILL understand you. Its common courtesy and only makes sense in a team game.

But there are plenty of people who speak english just fine who refuse to communicate or play as a team, they are PLENTYFUL. But what about polish people who don't speak english? I meet those often, what should they do? Play on the non-existant polish servers?

European servers aren't english-only. Any european language flies in EUROPEAN SERVER.

I never said i don't think everybody should speak english, but it's not only russians who refuse to communicate as a team, so just saying LOL DEM RUSSIANS, RIGHT? RUINING ALL MY GAMES. It's just xenophobia. But whatever, i've taken this discussion one time too many.


No they're not the only ones. I've seen a few Polish do it too. And some Portugese.

However the Russians are, by far, the most overwhelming group in this particular category. Xenophobic or not there ARE a huge number of Russians playing on the European servers and there ARE a lot of them who flat out will not communicate in english beyond swearing.

Don't get me wrong, I've played with some great russians. But I've had far more games with russians who have no communication whatsoever until they decide to start spewing abuse.

English is a widely accepted worldwide language which is used in a variety of international settings because a huge number of people understand and speak it. Arguably largely due to Hollywood films plus, in more recent years, the rise of the internet. Consequently it is commonly accepted than in cooperative gaming environments the de facto language everyone "should" use is english; especially when you're talking about US-based or European servers. Not doing so when you are actually capable of doing so is nothing more than insisting on being a nuisance and annoying your teammates. And this isn't some kind of bias...I've seen people from a variety of countries yelling at russians to speak english (including some french guys, which was slightly amusing given how france is very protective of their language).

To a certain extent its understandable for the handful of other Euro people not speaking English. They don't have their own personal national server where they can avoid having to deal with the compromise (i.e. english) involved in people from lots of different nations with different languages having to communicate. Russians don't have that excuse. They have a personal server. They are free to go and use it if they are going to resolutely insist on not going along with the compromise solution.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:57:34
December 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#4713
if you die 13 times in 30 minutes in a pub game you're doing awful regardless of what hero you're on
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
December 06 2012 16:19 GMT
#4714
So tired of last games. I play pure support 90% of games. And it's ok couse i do enjoy that playstyle. Random draft, team ends with 4 first picks being Morph, Clock, Bat and Gyro. Im not really happy seeing all this considering that other team took Void, Doom, Huskar, Zeus and Rasta. 0 support heroes with any kind of cc left so i end up picking veno and baby sit Morph. Lane goes well, Doom and Zeus have 0 farm (which is nothing amazing considering its bad lane) and we get 3 kills (i get 2, morph one). Roaming a bit, getting few more kills. Im like 5-0-5 at that point.

Then the fun begins. Wards are down for like 15 seconds first time in game. 1-6 Gyro apparently looks at my items and sees Aquilla. WTF CARRY VENOM no wards no support?. Im like well since you mention it, i can go full retard carry mode on venom since you guys arent really doing well. And the hell beggins.

It must be my foult that i bought that silly ring of aquilla that you feeded void beyond godlike. It's foult of the fact that wards were down for 15 seconds that Huskar was like 10-2 at that point. It's my foult that morph had nothing whole game (even tho i didn't took SINGLE creep from him). It's my foult that gyro clock and bat end with 3 - 10+ deaths score.

I finished my shadow blade, got off few good ults with that and ended that game with positive score instead of going meka and force staff and try to support this group of fucking failures.

TLDR: if you take carry and die 5 times in 10 mins only due to fact taht you are retardly bad and then you start bitching at dude that was supporting you, you aren't carry anymore and don't expect any support.

-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:23:11
December 06 2012 16:19 GMT
#4715
On December 07 2012 00:57 Dead9 wrote:
if you die 13 times in 30 minutes in a pub game you're doing awful regardless of what hero you're on


Number crunching time!

Net/Riptide/Sonic/Scream does 550 damage even with the abilities all at level 1. Even the tower won't help protect you if you're that far back and they've dived you because thats pure spell damage output. Add a couple of right clicks under the tower and you'll push the damage up to over 600 from just the initial burst. Clearly you can just shrug that off at level 5-10, especially when getting underfarmed as a result.

Rush a heart on a support to tank it amirite?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
December 06 2012 16:30 GMT
#4716
0-6 tonight. fuck my life. what a waste of 5 hours
good vibes only
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:31:46
December 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#4717
This is a chat that I had with a bunch of euros that I met on the NA server:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]



I mean... it is really sad that you have to play on the NA server if you want to have good games. I find more western European people on the NA server than on Europe west. That's sad.

edit: BTW the game was awesome, we won and we talked in english all the match even though we were from different countries.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#4718
position is key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 06 2012 16:42 GMT
#4719
On December 07 2012 01:31 BlitzerSC wrote:
This is a chat that I had with a bunch of euros that I met on the NA server:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]



I mean... it is really sad that you have to play on the NA server if you want to have good games. I find more western European people on the NA server than on Europe west. That's sad.

edit: BTW the game was awesome, we won and we talked in english all the match even though we were from different countries.


No problems with brazilians? I hear they tend to be the big issue over on US servers (much like Russians on EU).
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
December 06 2012 16:44 GMT
#4720
I barely find any BR's on US server, worst thing that can happen there are (well big suprise) Russians in your team or ocassional angry 13 years kid that decides to spam voice chat.
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