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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
March 13 2015 07:44 GMT
#25921
I guess I should add that sometimes jungle picks are amazing. But like 80% of the time they are too greedy.

You have lion/slark against a solo mirana? Maybe it's ok to jungle. They don't have good roaming supports or a bh that can follow you? Maybe it's ok to jungle. etc
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 13 2015 07:44 GMT
#25922
I do wonder what the thought process is when people make picks some times. "Oh an enemy Drow carry? Yes I think a Wraith King would be good especially if our team has a Sven safelane. If only there were three more melee strength heroes with projectile stuns we could win even harder."

Or my favorite, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA FACELESS VOID
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
March 13 2015 07:49 GMT
#25923
Well honestly I think the issue is that a lot of the time there isn't a thought process.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
March 13 2015 09:35 GMT
#25924
I want to play doto but I'm either too tired after work or have other more important things to do

Real Life grabbed me by the balls and does not want to let go TT

And when I finally play one game I get mid DP who goes maelstrom after phase boots and a Lion who goes dagon and shadowblade fml
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 13 2015 10:11 GMT
#25925
On March 13 2015 16:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Pudge jungle, yes.

rip your will to live
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
iVolty
Profile Joined March 2015
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 10:40:19
March 13 2015 10:40 GMT
#25926
On March 13 2015 18:35 PoulsenB wrote:
I want to play doto but I'm either too tired after work or have other more important things to do

Real Life grabbed me by the balls and does not want to let go TT

And when I finally play one game I get mid DP who goes maelstrom after phase boots and a Lion who goes dagon and shadowblade fml


Hey at least you have a reliable way to play the game when you can. My technology is cursed and bound to break no matter what. Me being with no job it's impossible to fix them. So i've had to rely on using a friends computer on the weekends and binge on dota then as much as I can haha.
"Does it matter if I put this in my jug or not? Get it? Jug or not?"
Alcor
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy137 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 11:11:11
March 13 2015 11:09 GMT
#25927
i go dp mid and win hard the lane against sf, with a kda that is way the best in my team, we lose late game, and our nearly freefarm safelane pa (381 gpm) blames me for "pushing too much midgame and distracting the supports from babysitting him and sniper (329 gpm)"

p.s. obviously we lost cause sf started snowballing the moment he abandoned the lane, closing at 25/5/5...
MMR is just a (low) number...
NubbleST
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 13 2015 13:37 GMT
#25928
On March 13 2015 16:40 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 16:31 harodihg wrote:
The jungle shouldn't spawn before 5 minutes. Dota would be a much happier game

Yeah I agree. The jungle has been my biggest issue for a while now. Just makes every lane harder.

I'd assume it's better at lower levels, but at a higher level when your 5.5k Slark is getting shit on in lane because the low-mid 4k decided he wanted to afk jungle then still be useless in the mid-game it makes the game way harder than it should be. Sometimes it's ok I guess. I've seen 6k players get axe jungle, get an 8 minute blink then completely control the game. But usually I get a BS jungle who gets lvl 6 at 10 minutes for some unknown reason and I'm sitting safelane against Axe/Silencer or something stupid.

TL:DR - The jungle player is generally the weakest player, hence why he feels obligated to jungle because he can't win lanes. The jungle player makes life hard for the good players.


It's cause no one at USE 4k wants to play support so when people already pick cores, they'd rather do something useless like LC jungle than play support.
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
March 13 2015 13:44 GMT
#25929
On March 13 2015 16:44 TheEmulator wrote:
I guess I should add that sometimes jungle picks are amazing. But like 80% of the time they are too greedy.

You have lion/slark against a solo mirana? Maybe it's ok to jungle. They don't have good roaming supports or a bh that can follow you? Maybe it's ok to jungle. etc


the only time they're even good is because the enemy team fails to play well in the least

if your team wins 4/5 without them doing a single thing then you've probably won 4v5 to begin with

it's actually so frustrating because actually making people not able to jungle would be pretty shit for comp dota but great for matchmaking
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 13:47:13
March 13 2015 13:46 GMT
#25930
On March 13 2015 22:37 NubbleST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 16:40 TheEmulator wrote:
On March 13 2015 16:31 harodihg wrote:
The jungle shouldn't spawn before 5 minutes. Dota would be a much happier game

Yeah I agree. The jungle has been my biggest issue for a while now. Just makes every lane harder.

I'd assume it's better at lower levels, but at a higher level when your 5.5k Slark is getting shit on in lane because the low-mid 4k decided he wanted to afk jungle then still be useless in the mid-game it makes the game way harder than it should be. Sometimes it's ok I guess. I've seen 6k players get axe jungle, get an 8 minute blink then completely control the game. But usually I get a BS jungle who gets lvl 6 at 10 minutes for some unknown reason and I'm sitting safelane against Axe/Silencer or something stupid.

TL:DR - The jungle player is generally the weakest player, hence why he feels obligated to jungle because he can't win lanes. The jungle player makes life hard for the good players.


It's cause no one at USE 4k wants to play support so when people already pick cores, they'd rather do something useless like LC jungle than play support.


another part of that issue is that in those lower skill brackets the team with the jungler more often than not WINS just because the other teams supports are too braindead to make up for the farm difference or do anything useful around the map

all that happens is that those habits carry forward as they progress and the game is just a goddamn clusterfuck where there's a total of like 10 people in NA who have any clue what they're doing when they have to play support

edit: the 10 is probably closer to like 20 or 30 and includes pro players.
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 13:56:34
March 13 2015 13:53 GMT
#25931
Fuck everyone who randoms last pick in RANKED games.

Guys, we really need a support.

Nope.

Doom.

Aaaaand he's just going to jungle all game.



Side note: Jungling Dooms need to just have their own fucking game where there are no lanes, no ancients, and no enemy heroes. Because they're already playing this game, IN OUR GAME.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
March 13 2015 16:16 GMT
#25932
On March 13 2015 01:57 DinoMight wrote:
Support Necro.

Is not.

A thing.







(Is it?)


It seems pretty legit in the 1k bracket because Heartstopper harass is impossible to screw up and it's not like you can expect much more from the supports.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
March 13 2015 17:13 GMT
#25933
how can u possibly die 9 times in 20minutes? its like u have been death for like 5min of total time and running from base to lane another 5 minutes. wtf seriously. this guy is playing safelane troll. come on
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
March 13 2015 17:36 GMT
#25934
On March 13 2015 19:11 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 16:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Pudge jungle, yes.

rip your will to live

I also had a safelane clinkz/troll that game and they were fighting for farm.
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 13 2015 18:03 GMT
#25935
I think I'm just going to first pick Axe every game just so the other team doesn't get to pick him.

Am I the ONLY person who understands that he blinks in, makes you fight him, puts up his blademail, and then instagibs you with a giant Axe?

Why are people so incompetent at playing against this hero?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 13 2015 18:09 GMT
#25936
So does anyone think the all random restriction on low priority is dumb?

All 3 games i played everyone just went mid and fed so they could get out asap
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
March 13 2015 18:19 GMT
#25937
On March 13 2015 22:53 DinoMight wrote:
Fuck everyone who randoms last pick in RANKED games.

Guys, we really need a support.

Nope.

Doom.

Aaaaand he's just going to jungle all game.



Side note: Jungling Dooms need to just have their own fucking game where there are no lanes, no ancients, and no enemy heroes. Because they're already playing this game, IN OUR GAME.


I really hate you, and the other poster above that says the same thing and also all the guys that first pick carry and then expect the rest of the team to play support.

You're like 5th picker, and the 4 above you already picked core heroes and they're all like "OMFG PICK CARRY NOOB NEED POS 5 WARDBITCH COURRIER UPGRADER". So yeah, i random as 5th pick when i have 4 core with me because fuck you. I can play support or carry but like 99% of ppl out there i prefer playing carry.

Also picking carry first and support 5th is so counter productive that i consider the first pickers to throw the game way more than i do. So cheers, keep rushing your sniper/jugger first pick and you'll get a 20min loss
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 13 2015 18:27 GMT
#25938
On March 14 2015 03:19 zdarr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 22:53 DinoMight wrote:
Fuck everyone who randoms last pick in RANKED games.

Guys, we really need a support.

Nope.

Doom.

Aaaaand he's just going to jungle all game.



Side note: Jungling Dooms need to just have their own fucking game where there are no lanes, no ancients, and no enemy heroes. Because they're already playing this game, IN OUR GAME.


I really hate you, and the other poster above that says the same thing and also all the guys that first pick carry and then expect the rest of the team to play support.

You're like 5th picker, and the 4 above you already picked core heroes and they're all like "OMFG PICK CARRY NOOB NEED POS 5 WARDBITCH COURRIER UPGRADER". So yeah, i random as 5th pick when i have 4 core with me because fuck you. I can play support or carry but like 99% of ppl out there i prefer playing carry.

Also picking carry first and support 5th is so counter productive that i consider the first pickers to throw the game way more than i do. So cheers, keep rushing your sniper/jugger first pick and you'll get a 20min loss

I prefer it too. Guess what I do when I have last pick and a support is needed?

I play fucking support.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 13 2015 18:28 GMT
#25939
On March 14 2015 03:27 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:19 zdarr wrote:
On March 13 2015 22:53 DinoMight wrote:
Fuck everyone who randoms last pick in RANKED games.

Guys, we really need a support.

Nope.

Doom.

Aaaaand he's just going to jungle all game.



Side note: Jungling Dooms need to just have their own fucking game where there are no lanes, no ancients, and no enemy heroes. Because they're already playing this game, IN OUR GAME.


I really hate you, and the other poster above that says the same thing and also all the guys that first pick carry and then expect the rest of the team to play support.

You're like 5th picker, and the 4 above you already picked core heroes and they're all like "OMFG PICK CARRY NOOB NEED POS 5 WARDBITCH COURRIER UPGRADER". So yeah, i random as 5th pick when i have 4 core with me because fuck you. I can play support or carry but like 99% of ppl out there i prefer playing carry.

Also picking carry first and support 5th is so counter productive that i consider the first pickers to throw the game way more than i do. So cheers, keep rushing your sniper/jugger first pick and you'll get a 20min loss

I prefer it too. Guess what I do when I have last pick and a support is needed?

I play fucking support.


Yeah if you want to pick a carry pick faster its not hard
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 13 2015 19:23 GMT
#25940
On March 14 2015 03:27 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:19 zdarr wrote:
On March 13 2015 22:53 DinoMight wrote:
Fuck everyone who randoms last pick in RANKED games.

Guys, we really need a support.

Nope.

Doom.

Aaaaand he's just going to jungle all game.



Side note: Jungling Dooms need to just have their own fucking game where there are no lanes, no ancients, and no enemy heroes. Because they're already playing this game, IN OUR GAME.


I really hate you, and the other poster above that says the same thing and also all the guys that first pick carry and then expect the rest of the team to play support.

You're like 5th picker, and the 4 above you already picked core heroes and they're all like "OMFG PICK CARRY NOOB NEED POS 5 WARDBITCH COURRIER UPGRADER". So yeah, i random as 5th pick when i have 4 core with me because fuck you. I can play support or carry but like 99% of ppl out there i prefer playing carry.

Also picking carry first and support 5th is so counter productive that i consider the first pickers to throw the game way more than i do. So cheers, keep rushing your sniper/jugger first pick and you'll get a 20min loss

I prefer it too. Guess what I do when I have last pick and a support is needed?

I play fucking support.



Sometimes our first guy picks a jungler and we need a solo offlaner. And I'm the only one who knows/can play Clockwerk or whatever. So I tell them I will play solo offlane if someone else can support and they say sure go for it.

THEN THEY RANDOM LAST PICK.

I play support in like 80% of my games, because nobody else wants to ever. That's why I have the right to get mad when this happens....
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
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