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Hero Builds have been bugged since 7.01 launch. Can't do anything in terms of updates.
Here is my homework:
- Change Titles to 7.01
- Update Techies Skill Build
- Update Undying Skill Build
- Make sure to have Nature's Prophet guide re-classified as a hero build
- Update Crystal Maiden entirely (see patch notes)
- Juggernaut get Maelstrom/Mjollnir
- Add Medallion of Courage to VS Core Items. Aether to Situational
- Techies: Eul's into Explode combo. Eul's First item? Re-look at Core Items
- Lone Druid - Range build
To-Do:
- Ember Spirit (Core/Safe) change to Magic Version
- Arc Warden (Core/Safe) change to Shadow Blade/Orchid version
- Weaver (Offlane) change to be more Support [?]
- Deleted Guides have their 'lane version' as a tab in other hero builds
Potential New Guides (Part 2) subject to change
Abaddon (Support)
 Batrider (Jungle)
Chaos Knight (Offlane or Support?)
 Enchantress (Offlane)
 Morphling (Support or Offlane?)
 Mirana (Support) - Roaming
Nature's Prophet (Offlane)
Necrophos (Offlane) or (Support)
 Omniknight (Core) - Offlane?
 Riki (Core) - Safe Lane
Treant Protector (Offlane or Jungle?)
Vengeful Spirit (Core) - Safe Lane
 Zeus (Support) - Safe Lane
Potential Guides to be Removed (Part 2) subject to change
Ancient Apparition (Core) 580,943
 Bloodseeker (Middle) 880,376
Oracle (Core) 370,349
Earth Spirit (Core) 609,431
 Shadow Shaman (Core) 189,407
 Slark (Core/Mid) 816,147
 Tiny (Core/Mid) 1,122,928
Troll Warlord (Offlane) 709,753
 Warlock (Core) 258,054
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Hero Builds are fixed.
First steps:
- Full test of issues from dev.dota report
- Make topic about the fixed issues and still prominent problems
- Apply initial changes planned above + feedback
- Start cataloging entire talent tree rework for all hero builds
- commit suicide after exhausted work day
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After 15 days (December 22 to January 6), we have risen from 184,250,665 to 188,120,189 combined subscriptions
A difference of 3,869,524
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,237,632.82
Growth Percentage is 2.10%
5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):- Oracle (Core) (376,158)
- Naga Siren (Support) (337,618)
- Warlock (Core) (290,741)
- Underlord (Support) (200,674)
- Shadow Shaman (Core) (198,649)
5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):-
 Sven
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 Lifestealer (Jungle)
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 Phantom Assassin
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 Juggernaut
- Faceless Void
Notable Growths in Subscriptions: - Mirana (1,972,518 -> 2,009,284)
- Slark (Core/Safe) (1,885,762 -> 1,948,787)
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- Drow Ranger (1,841,621 -> 1,897,810)
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This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: Buckyman, Belisarius, wockeez2706, -methane-, alfilo_, GrillMySkull, DarknessOfLove, dannycalamity, NewDark90
- 18.68% of last month's unique players [13,935,496] are subscribed to the our highest subscribed guide: Sven Guide
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Monkey King (Offlane)
New Skill Build: E Q W E E Q E Q Q T R R W W T W R T T (1. Jingu Mastery 2. Boundless Strike 3. Tree Dance)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+20 Attack Speed), 16 (+20 Movement Speed), 20 (+15 Strength), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Moved Infused Raindrop to Situational Items
Moved Desolator to Extension Items
Removed Butterfly
Removed Sange & Yasha
Monkey King (Core)
New Skill Build: E Q W E E R E Q Q T Q E W W T W R T T (1. Jingu Mastery 2. Boundless Strike 3. Tree Dance)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+20 Attack Speed), 16 (+20 Movement Speed), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Removed Bottle
Removed Skull Basher
Removed Sange & Yasha
Removed Desolator
Sven
New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W E E T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Great Cleave 2. Warcry 3. Storm Hammer)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+6 Strength), 15 (+8 All Stats), 20 (+30 Attack Speed), 25 (+65 Damage)
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Bloodthorn to Extension Items
Added Satanic to Extension Items
Moved Mask of Madness to Core Items
Removed Daedalus
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Nature's Prophet
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R W W W T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Teleportation 2. Nature's Call 3. Sprout)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+15 Intelligence, 20 (+35 Attack Speed), 25 (2x Treant HP/Damage)
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Added Blade Mail to Core Items
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Added Daedalus to Extension Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Desolator to Core Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to Situational Items
Moved Silver Edge to Extension Items
Removed Phase Boots
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Mjollnir
Removed Bloodthorn
Crystal Maiden
New Skill Build: W E E Q Q R Q Q E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Crystal Nova 2. Arcane Aura 3. Frostbite)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+50 Damage), 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (+1.5s Frostbite Duration)
Added Wind Lace to Core Items
Added Veil of Discord to Situational Items
Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items
Removed Aether Lens
Removed Eul's Scepter of Divinity
Wraith King
New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Wraithfire Blast 2. Mortal Strike 3. Vampiric Aura)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15 Damage), 15 (+15 Movement Speed), 20 (+40 Attack Speed), 25 (+20% Vampiric Aura)
Added Mask of Madness to Situational Items
Added Radiance to Extension Items
Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Removed Monkey King Bar
 Undying
New Skill Build: Q W W Q E R E E E T W R W Q T Q R T T (1. Tombstone 2. Soul Rip 3. Decay)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+90 Gold/Min), 15 (+300 Health), 20 (+10 All Stats), 25 (+40 Tombstone Zombie Damage)
Juggernaut
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Blade Fury 2. Healing Ward 3. Blade Dance)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+20 Attack Speed), 20 (+8 All Stats), 25 (+20 Agility)
Added Helm of the Dominator to Core Items
Added Mjollnir to Core Items
Removed Diffusal Blade - Level 1
Vengeful Spirit
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q E W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Magic Missile 2. Wave of Terror 3. Vengeance Aura)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+8% Magic Resistance), 15 (+8 All Stats), 20 (+20 Movement Speed), 25 (+20% Vengeance Aura Damage)
Added Medallion of Courge to Core Items
Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items
 Timbersaw
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W W T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Timber Chain 2. Reactive Armour 3. Whirling Death)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+150 Health), 15 (+14 Health Regen), 20 (+5% Spell Amplification), 25 (+20 Strength)
Ember Spirit (Core/Safe)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E Q Q T W R W W T W R T T (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% Magic Penetration), 15 (+6 All Stats), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+2 Searing Chains)
Added Mjolnnir to Extension Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Ember Spirit (Core/Mid)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E Q Q T W R W W T W R T T (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% Magic Penetration), 15 (+6 All Stats), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+2 Searing Chains)
Core Items: Veil of Discord, Boots of Travel, Blink Dagger, Octarine Core
Situational Items: Ghost Scepter, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Linken's Sphere, Manta Style
Extension Items: Blade Mail, Shiva's Guard, Radiance, Mjollnir
Lone Druid (Jungle)
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q W W T E R E E T E R T T (1. Summon Spirit Bear 2. Rabid 3. Savage Roar)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Health), 15 (+30 Spirit Bear Damage), 20 (+7 Spirit Bear Armor), 25 (+1.5s Entangle Duration)
Added Mask of Madness to Extension Bear Items
Renamed Core
Lone Druid (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q E Q W W T E E E R T R R T T (1. Summon Spirit Bear 2. Rabid 3. Savage Road)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+200 Attack Range), 15 (+65 Damage), 20 (-50s Respawn Time), 25 (-10s Savage Roar Cooldown)
Core - Druid: Phase Boots, Helm of the Dominator, Dragon Lance, Maelstrom
Core - Bear: Orb of Venom, Boots of Speed
Extension Druid Items: Black King Bar, Sange & Yasha, Hurricane Pike, Mjollnir, Satanic
Extension Bear Items: Boots of Travel, Vladmir's Offering, Assault Cuirass
Renamed Offlane
Techies
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Proximity Mines 2. Blast Off! 3. Stasis Trap)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+200 Cast Range), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (25% Cooldown Reduction)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Veil of Discord to Extension Items
Removed Town Portal Scroll
Removed Arcane Boots
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The idea with Crystal Maiden is that Drum replaces Eul's and the level 15 talent replaces Aether Lens, right? Also, I'd normally object to core items on her with only a wand for +hp, but I think you're fine because all the situational items do. You might wish to slip in a situational/extension Mek/Greaves.
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I think Wraith King wants movespeed over HP, but I will defer to experience here.
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Finally, although this is low priority (stats tooltip broken), the patreon sponsor should be mentioned in the Stats tooltip where you have a placeholder.
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On January 08 2017 03:27 Buckyman wrote:
The idea with Crystal Maiden is that Drum replaces Eul's and the level 15 talent replaces Aether Lens, right? Also, I'd normally object to core items on her with only a wand for +hp, but I think you're fine because all the situational items do. You might wish to slip in a situational/extension Mek/Greaves.
Finally, although this is low priority (stats tooltip broken), the patreon sponsor should be mentioned in the Stats tooltip where you have a placeholder.
1. Drum -> Eul's: Yes
2. Level 15 Talent -> Aether Lens: Yes
3. Mek/Greaves -> Didn't see it bought enough to warrant putting it on there.
(stats tooltip broken), the patreon sponsor should be mentioned in the Stats tooltip where you have a placeholder.
Hilariously, I cannot edit the attribute points tooltips. They also won't show in-game, so Patron Sponsors will now be a part of the item shop UI.
4. Wraith King: Movement speed is situationally desired as you usually get Blink Dagger anyways. The health cooperates better with his usual itemization (Armlet, Blade Mail, etc.). Movement speed is always desired, but I essentially had to just pick one and I used Genting as a ruler.
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Dotabuff says Mek+Greaves combined are more popular than Urn on CM.
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On January 08 2017 03:38 Buckyman wrote:
Dotabuff says Mek+Greaves combined are more popular than Urn on CM.
My reasoning for MS over HP on WK is that I fear being kited to death with Armlet on far more than I fear focus fire. MoM changes that but it's Situational. Though keep in mind that I haven't actually played any WK this patch...
We can do Mek in Situational or Greaves in Extension. Whichever you prefer.
Agree on WK, we can switch it then.
PS: the backslash characters appearing in the general descriptions is something I cannot remove. It re-appears each time I publish.
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Also, I won't be adding/removing any hero builds until 200 million (February). Mainly because I will be in Russia at the end of January and I'm feeling a little burnt out in terms of having to update all the hero builds for talent trees, doing Q&A for bugs/issues to report and revising the itemization of the heroes.
I will start creating tabs for 'alternative' lanes to ease the transition of when I delete hero builds.
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Re: backslash chains
It's obviously the system's fault. It's adding backslashes before apostrophes and other backslashes. You might be able to fix it by pasting in a Unicode "modifier letter apostrophe" (ʼ) which should be interpreted by their software as a letter rather than punctuation.
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On January 08 2017 06:00 Buckyman wrote:
Re: backslash chains
It's obviously the system's fault. It's adding backslashes before apostrophes and other backslashes. You might be able to fix it by pasting in a Unicode "modifier letter apostrophe" (ʼ) which should be interpreted by their software as a letter rather than punctuation.
I'll just wait for Valve to fix it rather than go through so much text to add in apostrophes. It's no biggie and no one cares about the hero desc. anyways, right?
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That Weaver replay demonstrates why Support Weaver doesn't work. The Weaver team lost all three lanes because Weaver couldn't trade harrass or threaten a gank on any lane, or defend against the roaming Mirana, then after scraping together 5 levels didn't do nearly enough in his first teamfight to justify even that investment. He didn't even do much warding or scouting.
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On January 08 2017 09:58 Buckyman wrote:
That Weaver replay demonstrates why Support Weaver doesn't work. The Weaver team lost all three lanes because Weaver couldn't trade harrass or threaten a gank on any lane, or defend against the roaming Mirana, then after scraping together 5 levels didn't do nearly enough in his first teamfight to justify even that investment. He didn't even do much warding or scouting.
Ok, no weaver Support. We'll just keep it Offlane + Core.
Ember Spirit (Magic Pen) is now published.
Lone Druid - Range, is also published. See above for changes.
Any other heroes that need a massive overhaul? Off the top of my head, those were the only ones that had to be completely redone and the rest are just touch-ups.
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Hero Builds have been bugged since 7.01 launch. Can't do anything in terms of updates.
Here is my homework:
To-Do:
- Arc Warden (Core/Safe) change to Shadow Blade/Orchid version
- Create Vengeful Spirit Carry Guide (need example)
- Check Luna Skill Build
- Check Spirit Breaker Build
- Check Necrophos Build
- Check Queen of Pain new build
- Do Talent Trees for all heroes
Potential New Guides (Part 2) subject to change
+ Show Spoiler + Abaddon (Support) Batrider (Jungle) Chaos Knight (Offlane or Support?) Enchantress (Offlane) Morphling (Support or Offlane?) Mirana (Support) - Roaming Nature's Prophet (Offlane) Necrophos (Offlane) or (Support) Omniknight (Core) - Offlane? Riki (Core) - Safe Lane Treant Protector (Offlane or Jungle?) Vengeful Spirit (Core) - Safe Lane Zeus (Support) - Safe LanePotential Guides to be Removed (Part 2) subject to change Ancient Apparition (Core) 580,943 Bloodseeker (Middle) 880,376 Oracle (Core) 370,349 Earth Spirit (Core) 609,431 Shadow Shaman (Core) 189,407 Slark (Core/Mid) 816,147 Tiny (Core/Mid) 1,122,928 Troll Warlord (Offlane) 709,753 Warlock (Core) 258,054
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Luna - Currently starts with 3x branch no circlet with first item wand. Should start with circlet 2x branch so she can complete the wand off the first creep wave. She may want the third branch also, which will eventually build into HotD.
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Re: ember
Definitely get the + magic talent at level 10 even without veil, it really helps prolong ember's power spike in the mid game.
I don't think you get aquila if you're going veil, you get enough stats from veil and you need to get BoTs ASAP after the veil. Not sure if it's just a mistake or the build is cut off or something but I don't see mjolnir in extension.
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On January 08 2017 15:17 Birdie wrote:
Re: ember
Definitely get the + magic talent at level 10 even without veil, it really helps prolong ember's power spike in the mid game.
I don't think you get aquila if you're going veil, you get enough stats from veil and you need to get BoTs ASAP after the veil. Not sure if it's just a mistake or the build is cut off or something but I don't see mjolnir in extension.
Ok. I will add Magic. Pen to Ember (Core/Safe)
I'll double-check Veil/BoT Order and Aquila (I think that was 50/50 thing).
Mjolnnir is in the Magic. Pen version, not the Bfury one. Should I add it to both.
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Honestly I think you seriously consider veil even if you're planning to do the rightclick build. It serves the same function that drums used to in bridging the gap to BF+1.
Magic ember is just so much stronger than non-magic ember. I don't really know what to do with non-magic ember because the right choices are probably going to be whatever makes him more like magic ember.
The other new meta build is magic lifesteal qop. I'm not convinced it's much good, but people undoubtedly want to play it.
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