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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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GrundlePinch1
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You guys helped me build my own machine about 5 years ago which has been awesome and now I'm back to build a PC for my dad. His main concern is being able to play Civ 6 but otherwise does some 3D modeling and general gaming. He requested a large case which is why I chose a full tower. Any cost cutting methods would be appreciated as this build is already a bit above budget. Thanks in advance. GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032&ignorebbr=1 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372&ignorebbr=1 Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&ignorebbr=1 Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568&ignorebbr=1 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235014&ignorebbr=1 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&ignorebbr=1 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854003&ignorebbr=1 | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On October 01 2016 11:32 trifecta wrote: just use the pcpartpicker entry level guide as baseline (as has been suggested before). currently it's ~750CAD. your premade has a cpu one tier higher for +250CAD. a windows 7 key is roughly 20USD if you know where to look. On October 01 2016 18:53 Cyro wrote: They don't list some important stuff (vague specs like "ddr4", "240GB SSD", "gtx970" without a guarantee on which version, PSU etc) so i wouldn't personally buy or recommend from such a site. Those four and more are stuff that prebuilts cheap out on often for profit margins good points and I ended up just building a nicer one for 1200$ CAD. thanks again for all the tips! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On October 03 2016 23:34 GrundlePinch1 wrote: Hello everyone! You guys helped me build my own machine about 5 years ago which has been awesome and now I'm back to build a PC for my dad. His main concern is being able to play Civ 6 but otherwise does some 3D modeling and general gaming. He requested a large case which is why I chose a full tower. Any cost cutting methods would be appreciated as this build is already a bit above budget. Thanks in advance. GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032&ignorebbr=1 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372&ignorebbr=1 Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&ignorebbr=1 Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568&ignorebbr=1 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235014&ignorebbr=1 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&ignorebbr=1 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854003&ignorebbr=1 There's not much to cut without losing important stuff, only minor optimizations you chose 2013 parts (cpu/mobo/ram) instead of current gen ---------- I have noticed i7-5820K is at least £50 more expensive than when I bought it, while i7-6700K is slightly cheaper. Is this based on lower stock or did they realise i7-5820K is better than they thought? I feel like I did well when I bought it. :D Or, is it because of Brexit? But even then, why is i7-6700K becoming cheaper? 6700k was being sold quite far above recommended price @ launch for a long time, it no longer is (it's at £310 MSRP w/ a few sites discounting ~5%). They're still sidegrades to the point that the 6700k is my preferred CPU when i could own either (faster 4c8t vs slower 6c12t) | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
What is your budget? $1,000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080p What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Pretty much WoW is all I play. I'd like it on max settings or close to it. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? May want to stream once I upgrade my internet to Fiber over the winter. Do you intend to overclock? Yes, if streaming. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? I have a Windows 7 key from my old computer but I figure I'll need to get a new one for a new build. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No other peripherals. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Going to get a bigger SSD for OS and WoW. (256 or 512). Will want a 2TB+ storage drive. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Newegg is what I bought everything on last time. I wouldn't mind buying all from newegg again or if there are HUGE deals for something I can do whatever website. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On October 09 2016 10:10 SleepTech wrote: Built a gaming PC about 4 years ago from this website's help and its ran like a champ. Looking to build another one. What is your budget? $1,000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080p What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Pretty much WoW is all I play. I'd like it on max settings or close to it. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? May want to stream once I upgrade my internet to Fiber over the winter. Do you intend to overclock? Yes, if streaming. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? I have a Windows 7 key from my old computer but I figure I'll need to get a new one for a new build. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No other peripherals. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Going to get a bigger SSD for OS and WoW. (256 or 512). Will want a 2TB+ storage drive. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Newegg is what I bought everything on last time. I wouldn't mind buying all from newegg again or if there are HUGE deals for something I can do whatever website. If WoW is pretty much all you play at 1080p, then at this budget point it's pretty much standard i5-6600K with any Z170 motherboard, 16GB RAM and GTX1060 6GB, 256GB SSD will do fine. May want an i7 depending on how serious streamer you are. The windows 7 key can be reuse, but that means you cant use if on your old computer, so if your old computer is still working, then buy new windows key I guess. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
Core counts and clock speed alone mean NOOOOTHING when you're comparing different families/architectures, though. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
neither cores nor clock speed are good metrics for judging GPU's across architecture but rx480 vs 1080 and titan are in a completely different league, they'd need to more than double performance to have a shot at the flagships. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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The current generation consists of the Radeon HD7000 series and GTX 700 series for the high-end segment and the Radeon HD6000 series and GTX 600 series for the low-end and mid-range segment. A Radeon HD7770, Radeon HD7790, Radeon R7 260X, Radeon HD7850, GTX 650 Ti, or GTX 650 Ti Boost is suggested for reasonably high settings at 1920x1080 in Starcraft II, Diablo III, World of Warcraft, and games based on the Source engine such as Left 4 Dead 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Team Fortress 2, and DotA 2. A Radeon HD7870 (R9 270X and R9 270 is a rebrand of this card), GTX 760, Radeon HD7950, Radeon HD7970 (R9 280X is a rebrand of this card), or GTX 770 is suggested for playing AAA titles such as Crysis and Battlefield on reasonably high settings at 1920x1080. The latter two are also suggested for reasonably high settings at 2560x1440. A R9 290 or GTX 780 is suggested if you are obsessed with max settings. That has got to be a couple of generations old, right? Generally I dislike complaining without offering a contribution myself, but I came here to seek help about which GPU to prefer for 1440p gaming, so I'm effectively Jon Snow. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On October 12 2016 17:34 icystorage wrote: assuming similar frequencies, can I use two different ram sticks but the same memory? Memory will usually fall back to the slowest frequency & timings used by either stick but you're more likely to have issues with mismatched sticks. Even buying the exact same product a week later there are sometimes multiple different types of memory with minor performance and configuration differences that have the same name and sticker on them so it can be rather complex to get two sticks of the same stuff without buying a prepackaged kit ------- That has got to be a couple of generations old, right? Yeah >____> Generally I dislike complaining without offering a contribution myself, but I came here to seek help about which GPU to prefer for 1440p gaming, so I'm effectively Jon Snow. I don't think there's much choice here - if you're buying new then you have a rough scale of performance: rx470 / 1060 3GB rx480 / 1060 6GB ------------------------- 1070 1080 would lean towards 1070 myself cause it's a lot faster than an rx480 or 1060 but the 1080+ seems way overpriced and a big drop in perf/$ - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1731 can drop a tier to 1060 6GB, rx480 8GB for saving money or go up to 1080 for more performance. I don't think the Fury X is worth it w/ 4GB VRAM limitation in -current year- | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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On October 12 2016 17:53 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2016 17:34 icystorage wrote: assuming similar frequencies, can I use two different ram sticks but the same memory? Memory will usually fall back to the slowest frequency & timings used by either stick but you're more likely to have issues with mismatched sticks. Even buying the exact same product a week later there are sometimes multiple different types of memory with minor performance and configuration differences that have the same name and sticker on them so it can be rather complex to get two sticks of the same stuff without buying a prepackaged kit ------- That has got to be a couple of generations old, right? Yeah >____> I don't think there's much choice here - if you're buying new then you have a rough scale of performance: rx470 / 1060 3GB rx480 / 1060 6GB ------------------------- 1070 1080 would lean towards 1070 myself cause it's a lot faster than an rx480 or 1060 but the 1080+ seems way overpriced and a big drop in perf/$ - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1731 can drop a tier to 1060 6GB, rx480 8GB for saving money or go up to 1080 for more performance. I don't think the Fury X is worth it w/ 4GB VRAM limitation in -current year- Thanks! I was thinking about 1070 myself but didn't like the bang for buck value. I'll look into the rx480 and 1060 6GB. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
;_; 6GB 1060's on the other hand start from ~270€ | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13391 Posts
I feel like my CPU has a few years in it still but am looking to improve my Graphics card. I am looking at the RX480 as that seems to have a very good 1080p quality to dollar performance ratio (and my monitors are only 1600x900 atm) I saw this on Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/MSI-RX-480-GAMING-4G/dp/B01K1JTT8S/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3_m?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1476380510&sr=1-3-fkmr0&keywords=RX480+MSI+Gaming+X&th=1 I am thinking about grabbing the 4GB model as its only 350 CAD. Any thoughts? Alternative recommendations? The 10 series nvidia cards seem far too expensive for me atm especially since I won't be playing any 4k resolution stuff any time soon. And I saw the post from Cyro about the 1070 but those are nearly double the price compared to an RX480 here in Canada (580 is cheapest I've seen) and once you add 13% tax to both of those items you get 395.50 (for the 4GB RX480) 658.80 (for the 1070) Not sure paying almost twice as much is worth it for the performance boost between the 1070 and the 480 for me. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
That performance level (rx480 4gb) is pretty good for 1080p60 today | ||
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