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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
August 31 2016 03:43 GMT
#12481
A friend of mine asked me to build him a computer for video editing and light gaming. I have an i7 3770k, 16gb 1600MHz ram, and a GTX770 from an old build and a 450 watt PSU from an old Gateway PC. The only motherboards I could find for the LGA1155 socket size were either ludicrously expensive or microATX, and I am very unfamiliar with microATX. Is there a motherboard that anyone here can recommend, or should I just get him the new generation cpu? His budget is $1,000.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 31 2016 04:04 GMT
#12482
Have you tried Amazon?

twitch.tv/cratonz
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
August 31 2016 04:38 GMT
#12483
Yeah, but I don't trust used PC parts, and spending $200+ on a motherboard seems absurd. I'd like to see if someone has a better option.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
August 31 2016 11:02 GMT
#12484
It's practically impossible to find Lga 1155 motherboards for unlocked cpu's that aren't used. And even then, they're difficult to track down, I've tried for a while.

You can still buy non-unlocked ones if you're willing, but at this point it might be worth it to simply go for a skylake instead.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 19:55:12
August 31 2016 18:07 GMT
#12485
I'm trying to decided between laptop work stations, working primarily on 3D asset modelling, texturing, and some rendering. So I'm looking to run Zbrush, Maya, 3DS Max, Topogun, Substance Painter, Photoshop, etc. I'm aiming for something that can handle very high poly counts in Zbrush (well into the tens of millions)

ASUS ROG GL502VS-DB71, $1,699USD
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1INYD0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
specs
Intel Core i7 - 6700HQ
Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB
256GB SSD + 1TB HD
16GB DDR4 RAM

ASUS ROG GL502, $1,469USD
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H2GHMLY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2TC87EJKQMY9O
specs
Intel Core i7 - 6700HQ
Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB
250GB SSD + 2TB HD
16GB DDR4 RAM

Is it worth it the price to stretch for the more expensive model?

Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Hirosh
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany267 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 18:34:53
August 31 2016 18:33 GMT
#12486
Hey tech guys,

I'm going to buy a new Gaming PC. So far my build looks like this:

geizhals.de

Is there something obvious I'm missing or is everything going to work together?

I'm still unsure if I really need the I7, hence the I5 in my basket. Same goes for the case, but that's just personal preference on my part.

I wanna OC, which is why I am still debating going for the more expensive cooler, as it has a better cooling capability.

What are you guys thought's?

Also are there big differences between the graphics card from different manufacturers?


Appreciate any Feedback :D
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
September 01 2016 10:59 GMT
#12487
can you guys put up an ultra budget pc sometime that can handle sc2 2v2? sure more powerful is always better but need to draw a line between playable and optimal somewhere :/ I think mentioning cpu+gpu is enough. Are locked pentiums too bad? 720-900p is ok too for monitor.

It will be for my parent's house, where I stay for like a month total in a year. They currently have an old laptop that can't even open binding of isaac because of shader version requirement :/ :/
Age of Mythology forever!
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 01 2016 23:03 GMT
#12488
On September 01 2016 19:59 mantequilla wrote:
can you guys put up an ultra budget pc sometime that can handle sc2 2v2? sure more powerful is always better but need to draw a line between playable and optimal somewhere :/ I think mentioning cpu+gpu is enough. Are locked pentiums too bad? 720-900p is ok too for monitor.

It will be for my parent's house, where I stay for like a month total in a year. They currently have an old laptop that can't even open binding of isaac because of shader version requirement :/ :/


Have you checked system requirements? I don't know how close to reality they are as they are much lower than my PC.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/starcraft-ii-system-requirements
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 01 2016 23:05 GMT
#12489
hey sexy smart people,
You helped me so much about a year and a half ago I ended up buying almost what was on that last list with cheaper ram, an SSD that was onsale, and a nicer looking case. I went with the 970 and I have no complaints thusfar. Now I am here to seek advice on another desktop I want to build/purchase prebuilt for my partner.

the most intense requirement is basically overwatch on max using a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor.

Coming from a Canadian perspective this prebuilt computer actually seems like a decent deal?
- how much would a more "casual-ish" user feel the difference between the 3.2GHz vs 3.5GHz CPU, overclocking and aftermarket heatsinks are not high priority/going to come up here.
- super cheap graphics card for a 4Gb card but will it meet my requirements?
- why they trying to sell me 16Gb RAM and how much am I paying for it when I only need 8 realistically
- loving the 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD
- the fact that it comes with windows 10 will save me uncertain pirating for a while too which is kinda nice
- any better suggestions that meet the $1000 price break?
- keep in mind canadian pricing

thanks again guys!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 04:04:48
September 02 2016 04:03 GMT
#12490
On September 02 2016 08:05 ComaDose wrote:
hey sexy smart people,
You helped me so much about a year and a half ago I ended up buying almost what was on that last list with cheaper ram, an SSD that was onsale, and a nicer looking case. I went with the 970 and I have no complaints thusfar. Now I am here to seek advice on another desktop I want to build/purchase prebuilt for my partner.

the most intense requirement is basically overwatch on max using a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor.

Coming from a Canadian perspective this prebuilt computer actually seems like a decent deal?
- how much would a more "casual-ish" user feel the difference between the 3.2GHz vs 3.5GHz CPU, overclocking and aftermarket heatsinks are not high priority/going to come up here.
- super cheap graphics card for a 4Gb card but will it meet my requirements?
- why they trying to sell me 16Gb RAM and how much am I paying for it when I only need 8 realistically
- loving the 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD
- the fact that it comes with windows 10 will save me uncertain pirating for a while too which is kinda nice
- any better suggestions that meet the $1000 price break?
- keep in mind canadian pricing

thanks again guys!


They don't show brand/model for a lot of the parts in the build so it's hard to tell if it's a good deal or not. You should ask what specific manufacturers and models are used.

Also a generic "Radeon R9 380" is an iffy buy when the radeon 470/480 or Nvidia 1060 exist for not much more, even with the 380's being dumped on clearance now.
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
September 02 2016 07:40 GMT
#12491
On September 02 2016 08:03 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 19:59 mantequilla wrote:
can you guys put up an ultra budget pc sometime that can handle sc2 2v2? sure more powerful is always better but need to draw a line between playable and optimal somewhere :/ I think mentioning cpu+gpu is enough. Are locked pentiums too bad? 720-900p is ok too for monitor.

It will be for my parent's house, where I stay for like a month total in a year. They currently have an old laptop that can't even open binding of isaac because of shader version requirement :/ :/


Have you checked system requirements? I don't know how close to reality they are as they are much lower than my PC.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/starcraft-ii-system-requirements



I think system requirements are written just because they have to be written it says i5 is recommended but it plays fine on my i3 so which i5 are they talking about :/
Age of Mythology forever!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 00:06:18
September 03 2016 00:01 GMT
#12492
gonna post in the format recomended:

What is your budget?
~$1000 CAD

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, 60+ hz

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Overwatch on max

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing important

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
yes edit: (torrented many before but not recently so i dont know how viable it is)

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no

What country will you be buying your parts in?
canada

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
no
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 07:42:50
September 03 2016 07:42 GMT
#12493
let me format mine too:

On September 01 2016 19:59 mantequilla wrote:
can you guys put up an ultra budget pc sometime that can handle sc2 2v2? sure more powerful is always better but need to draw a line between playable and optimal somewhere :/ I think mentioning cpu+gpu is enough. Are locked pentiums too bad? 720-900p is ok too for monitor.

It will be for my parent's house, where I stay for like a month total in a year. They currently have an old laptop that can't even open binding of isaac because of shader version requirement :/ :/




What is your budget?
minimum possible

What is your monitor's native resolution?
900p is ok

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Sc2 2v2, high

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing important

Do you intend to overclock?
no, since this pc will be for non-technical people

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
only monitor is needed

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
intel cpu is preferred unless there are amd options viable those I'm not aware of

What country will you be buying your parts in? If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
I'm just looking for part names, cpu+gpu model plus maybe a minimum psu that can drive them, buying them I can handle
Age of Mythology forever!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 17:01:14
September 03 2016 16:58 GMT
#12494
it says i5 is recommended but it plays fine on my i3 so which i5 are they talking about :/


They're probably trying to say first gen i5, but sc2 would run basically the same for an i3 of the same gen. Later gen i3's would run a LOT better than a first gen i5.

They also say AMD FX when Phenom II runs sc2 just as well, probably even better than Bulldozer. It looks to me like somebody looked over a CPU hierarchy without having a great understanding of the engine+CPU's or benchmarks for those

---

For sc2 2v2 you just need a powerful CPU core. Current gen i3 (like a 6100 or 6300) would be good. Very little is needed for graphics hardware, especially for non-max settings as the framerate dips and slow frames will be decided by the CPU
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
September 03 2016 22:14 GMT
#12495
I wonder how bad are the sub i3 processors, like pentium and celeron but can't find relevant benchs :/
Age of Mythology forever!
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
September 05 2016 02:23 GMT
#12496
On September 04 2016 07:14 mantequilla wrote:
I wonder how bad are the sub i3 processors, like pentium and celeron but can't find relevant benchs :/


well there was the g3258 anniversary edition Haswell which was an unlocked dual core that was an easy OC $70 USD 4.5GHz+ cpu. They're not all bad haha
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 23:51:17
September 05 2016 02:35 GMT
#12497
On September 03 2016 09:01 ComaDose wrote:
gonna post in the format recomended:

What is your budget?
~$1000 CAD

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, 60+ hz

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Overwatch on max

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing important

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
yes edit: (torrented many before but not recently so i dont know how viable it is)

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no

What country will you be buying your parts in?
canada

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
no


just follow this general template at a Canadian hardware seller:

http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/CRRscf/modest-gaming-build

that's 760USD ~ 1000CAD.

You can get a 470 instead of a 480 and/or skip out on the mechanical hard drive all together (always can get one later or just get a bigger ssd in the first place) to compensate for higher CAD prices.

240GB is more than enough for windows + overwatch + misc stuff like browser. also you can download windows from microsoft legit. you just need a key.

Make sure to get a psu from a reputable company of at least 450 Watts.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
September 05 2016 07:48 GMT
#12498
Hi all,

I am helping a friend choosing a laptop for study/work, which needs to be capable of running AutoCAD for 3D modelling. I am not sure of the exact software/version though, just know it's AutoCAD. Anyone familiar with the software can help me with the minimum/recommended system requirements please?

Thanks
ELqQQT_T
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 14:18:53
September 05 2016 14:18 GMT
#12499
if this is the product he is using: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-AutoCAD-2017.html

only system requirement worth pointing is 8gb ram. others are pretty light.
Age of Mythology forever!
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
September 05 2016 14:45 GMT
#12500
On September 05 2016 23:18 mantequilla wrote:
if this is the product he is using: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-AutoCAD-2017.html

only system requirement worth pointing is 8gb ram. others are pretty light.


Hmm, that seem a bit too light for a 3D modelling software? I was expecting some heavy multi-threaded CPU or workstation GPU for those vector calculation and 3D rendering?

Probably look for something like i7-HQ, 16GB and may be the old gen 950M or sth I guess.
ELqQQT_T
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