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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On January 26 2016 08:56 micronesia wrote:
I'm not sure what that means but I screwed little cylinders into the case and then screwed the mobo into the cylinders which elevates the mobo away from the case.
Yeah, those cylinders are called "Standoffs" cause they let the mobo stand off of the case (so there are no shorts). I think in general try to look around your mobo and see if there are any shorts-- any pieces of metal connecting your mobo when it shouldn't, like a screw or something that fell behind. Another thing might be your case (if it has some kind of problem) could have a short in in it-- in the frontpanel USB, or frontpanel audio or something.
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On January 26 2016 08:56 micronesia wrote:
I'm not sure what that means but I screwed little cylinders into the case and then screwed the mobo into the cylinders which elevates the mobo away from the case.
That's exactly what I was asking - thanks. I couldn't see if there were any from the pictures.
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United States24752 Posts
I can't find anything wrong with it... My last resort is to drop it off at Microcenter (3 day wait and 40 dollars) so they can diagnose the problem... Pretty shitty situation to be in.
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I think if it was a short it wouldn't stay powered on, though. To check for standoff issues, you'd unscrew the mobo from the case and lift it up, then see if there are any standoffs that don't line up with a hole on the motherboard and then take those out.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
So, here's what I would do in yoru situation (cause I like to spend time rather than money on these things): Do a "cardboard" setup. I usually do this before installing in any case.
Take everything out of the case. Set the mobo on a piece of insulated foam and/or on a piece of cardboard. Make sure CPU, GPU, and memory are installed. Set your PSU on another piece of insulated foam and/or on a piece of cardboard. Hook everything up to power, plug in keyboard and monitor into the motherboard/GPU. Trip the power switch jumpers to boot up the computer and see if it boots.
This will basically test your Mobo, your CPU, your Memory, and your GPU to make sure none of them are broken. Doing this without hooking up case, fans, peripherals, storage stuff, etc is a quick way to make sure your rig will run before putting it in the case.
Might be worth your time doing it now to get a better idea of what broke, might not be if you're pretty sure it can be fixed by these microcenter guys? I usually am willing to spend a couple days troubleshooting whenever I make a new computer. I don't expect to, but I am willing to.
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United States24752 Posts
I don't think it solves the problem, but should I plug power into the 4 pin PCI Power port directly above PCI1 on the mobo?
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
The first thing I'd suspect is issues with your video card connection or something, so maybe plugging into your mobo is the way to go. Almost all mobos have VGA/DVI these days
x99 doesn't because those CPU's don't have integrated graphics
^sry just woke up to 2 pages of troubleshooting and i don't have anything helpful to add. GL!
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United States24752 Posts
I think it is the lack of a jumper on the bios selector... can I move a jumper away from the default position of the clear cmos pins?
edit: By putting a jumper to select BIOS1 I was able to boot and get the computer up and running. Thanks all for helping me troubleshoot although I might have one or two more question down the road.
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Huh, usually don't need to touch that on a new build.
Glad you got it working. Time for some victory sleep.
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
Glad you got it fixed too :D
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So we ended up going with this cause I couldn't convince him to tier down much, he'd rather just throw more money at it later.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7g6WNG
All the parts came in and I put it together only to find the motherboard on-board power button and some of the cosmetic LEDs turn on, but pressing power or the on-board start button does nothing. I disconnected everything besides the CPU to no avail. There is no feedback whatsoever, none of the status LEDs come on and there are no beeps. If I switch off the PSU and then switch it back on, the first time i try to start after that the cpu fan spins half a second and stops. Tried resetting the CMOS multiple times and I tried using the BIOS flashback feature which seems to have worked, the thing lit up and flashed while the USB stick LED was showing access, but no discernible difference.
I'm a bit worried though because after all that failed, I decided to test the PSU in my PC. Unfortunately pulling it out of my PC is a pain in the ass because all the cables are tied up so what I did was put the cases next to each other and just plug the 24-pin from my PC into the new mobo. When I did that all the LEDs came on and the CPU fan spun, but it gave me Q-code 00 obviously cause the CPU 8-pin wasn't plugged in. This tells me that the new PSU isn't working properly, even though its providing power to the board? And if the PSU isn't working properly and I used that to flash the BIOS I'm worried there may have been an issue there.
Anyone have experience with a PSU that provides power to a motherboard, but wont start the system?
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
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I've had something similar happen when a part failed, but I think in my case it was the motherboard.
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We went to frys and picked up another power supply and it seems to be running now so i guess the 12v on the other PSU was dead or something.
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
We went to frys and picked up another power supply
Would love to do that myself, there are no decent shops here. No 1-day shipping either gg
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The selection wasn't great and they were a bit expensive, but they had some Antec and Corsair. x.x
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51518 Posts
So I'm looking to get a PC here in Korea so I can start streaming again. Problem is - USD-KRW exchange rate blows dick these days.
I was quoted ~$1350 USD from a person who will build, deliver and overclock a PC with these specs for me.
+ Show Spoiler +CPU: Intel i5 6600k
Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper t4
Motherboard: Asrock Z170
Ram: Samsung 8GB DDR4
GPU: MSI GTX 970 4GB
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 7200 RPM
ODD: Samsung ODD
Case: Akbo Ncore G200 Thanos
PSU: Corsair CX850M 80 PLUS modular Power supple
Should I pull the trigger or save the $150 or so and do all the hard work myself? I don't really have much time these days to build a desktop though, let alone go through all the hard work of overclocking and making sure its stable.
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
PSU: Corsair CX850M 80 PLUS modular Power supple
could run those specs and decent oc's on a 350w if you really wanted to, but 450-550 (with 2x 6+2 pins) is great with extra room and ability to use a bigger GPU.
Make sure it's ~2x4GB ~3000c15 RAM as well if it's new
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51518 Posts
I wanted to have that extra flexibility for SLI which is why he gave me the option of a 850W PSU.
Besides that is it worth that money considering everything I mentioned before?
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United Kingdom20323 Posts
That's still a couple hundred watts overkill on capacity for 2x 970 + 6600k + overclocks
This late into the generation, it's likely better to upgrade GPU some other way, like selling the current 970 and getting either a used 980ti or a new gen card that's comparable or better than two 970's
"SLI in the future" isn't a great upgrade option unless you're gonna end up with 2 flagship current generation cards so it fails on 2 points there: Firstly that there's a new gen coming soon and secondly that 970 isn't anywhere near the flagships of its gen in performance - a single 980ti is preferable to two 970's.
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PSU maybe, depends on cost and i don't think that's a particularly good quality unit (just high capacity)
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