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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 18:51:43
January 25 2016 18:43 GMT
#11621
Yes, that part I understand from the last time I built my pc. How do I connect the hard drives to the psu (top picture) though?


Edit: ohhhh, this psu has ports to plug the cables into... I will try it
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 19:30:36
January 25 2016 19:28 GMT
#11622
On January 26 2016 03:43 micronesia wrote:
Yes, that part I understand from the last time I built my pc. How do I connect the hard drives to the psu (top picture) though?


Edit: ohhhh, this psu has ports to plug the cables into... I will try it


AH! so what you have is called a "modular" PSU. Basically, your PSU came with a bunch of OPTIONAL cables rather than having all the cables plugged in. This way, any unnecessary cables you don't have to plug into your PSU and they won't clutter up your case. Check your PSU's manual for how to attach the modular cables. By default, your PSU just has the cables for the motherboard attached (usually; some are fully modular), and you can attach more following the directions for your PSU. You're probably familiar with the non-modular PSUs that are more common where all cables are always attached on the PSU end.

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Basically, check out your PSU for holes you're supposed to plug cables into. they should be labelled, or there should be a manual detailing them.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 20:19:42
January 25 2016 20:00 GMT
#11623
I turned the comp on for the first time. It seems to be working but the monitor isn't showing anything... Not sure how to troubleshoot this...

Edit: I tried plugging a monitor into each of the gpu slots... I don't see a slot on the mobo to try.

Where should my gpu be plugged in?[image loading][image loading]
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 20:29:15
January 25 2016 20:17 GMT
#11624
On January 26 2016 05:00 micronesia wrote:
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I turned the comp on for the first time. It seems to be working but the monitor isn't showing anything... Not sure how to troubleshoot this...

Edit: I tried plugging a monitor into each of the gpu slots... I don't see a slot on the mobo to try.


Hmm, usually there's a slot of SOME sort on the mobo. Can you take a photo?

Also for troubleshooting: check that you have power going to the CPU power connector, and your mobo power connector. Check that your video card is fully seated. Check that your RAM is fully seated. The first thing I'd suspect is issues with your video card connection or something, so maybe plugging into your mobo is the way to go. Almost all mobos have VGA/DVI these days


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This is your mobo right (assuming you're using the same parts list)? See that red slot beneath the two USB ports, just to the left of the blue USB 3.0 ports? That's HDMI on your mobo. Try using that.
THIS IS PROBABLY WRONG

EDIT: you can put your GPU into the first PCIe slot, outlined here:

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 20:29:28
January 25 2016 20:27 GMT
#11625
Isn't that esata vice hdmi? What cable plugs in there? I have been using dvi for my monitors, although I have a standard hdmi cable available.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 25 2016 20:30 GMT
#11626
Oh, maybe! I can't see from the image! In any case, i guess it's possible there's no mobo graphics??? inw hich case you really need to use your GPU. If your computer is posting but just having GPU detection issues, make sure your GPU and is seated properly and is getting power. Are its fans spinning up when you boot the computer?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 20:44:12
January 25 2016 20:33 GMT
#11627
The gpu is in slot one as you recommended and the fans are spinning. I will try seating it again but I don't expect that to help.

edit: How do I know if the comp is posting?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 25 2016 21:01 GMT
#11628
Posting is where your bios comes up and your motherboard, PSU, and, RAM are all operational. If your computer's fans are spinning, chances are you are posting.

So, it could be tehre's a problem detecting or using your GPU. Try putting it in a different PCIe slot. Also, check to make sure your monitor is working-- is it on the right input? Can you try it with another slot?

If you have an existing desktop, try transplanting the old GPU from that in. Does that cause things to work?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 21:39:32
January 25 2016 21:15 GMT
#11629
On January 26 2016 06:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Posting is where your bios comes up and your motherboard, PSU, and, RAM are all operational. If your computer's fans are spinning, chances are you are posting.

So, it could be tehre's a problem detecting or using your GPU. Try putting it in a different PCIe slot.
I tried slot 3 but had the same problem. I tried a different gpu in slot one and had the same problem.


Also, check to make sure your monitor is working-- is it on the right input? Can you try it with another slot?
I tried each monitor on each gpu slot. The monitors were working earlier today.

If you have an existing desktop, try transplanting the old GPU from that in. Does that cause things to work?

The gpu worked earlier today in my old pc.

edit: the older pc is no longer available for booting due to taking stuff out of it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
January 25 2016 21:43 GMT
#11630
On January 26 2016 06:15 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 06:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Posting is where your bios comes up and your motherboard, PSU, and, RAM are all operational. If your computer's fans are spinning, chances are you are posting.

So, it could be tehre's a problem detecting or using your GPU. Try putting it in a different PCIe slot.
I tried slot 3 but had the same problem. I tried a different gpu in slot one and had the same problem.


Show nested quote +
Also, check to make sure your monitor is working-- is it on the right input? Can you try it with another slot?
I tried each monitor on each gpu slot. The monitors were working earlier today.

Show nested quote +
If you have an existing desktop, try transplanting the old GPU from that in. Does that cause things to work?

The gpu worked earlier today in my old pc.


Hmm, ok. So we know the GPU is good, and we know the monitor is good. We've tried several slots on unseated/reseated the GPU so we know the plugging-in is working fine. Other things this could be:

1. Defective mobo with broken PCIe slots
2. something in like the bios keeps on trying to output video to the wrong place??
3. you're somehow repeatedly seating the gpu incorrectly, or the monitor is off or something
4. the computer isn't actually posting, so we expect the screen to be black actually-- maybe the mobo is having a problem, the RAM isn't seated properly, the cpu isn't on your mobo, or some other issue. However, given that your computer actually has spinning fans, this may not be the case.
5. Some other problem?? maybe the connection is bad somehow, or there's not enough power going to your GPU or something?? Tryin hitting F2 or whatever as you boot up to open BIOS might help

I feel like this would be easier to diagnose if you had a mobo graphics port-- maybe Cyro or someone else has better ideas.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 22:12:53
January 25 2016 22:08 GMT
#11631
Fans spinning don't usually mean much in the way of POSTing. They'll spin up just from getting power.

What's your CPU? Do you have a parts list somewhere? Do you get any beeps when turning the PC on?
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
January 25 2016 22:13 GMT
#11632
Is there no more POST beep? Or beep codes?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
January 25 2016 22:34 GMT
#11633
It does not beep even though I did plug in the little mobo speaker. I'll type out the parts list when I get home.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 23:15:22
January 25 2016 23:15 GMT
#11634
Sounds similar to my old issue, where the motherboard's BIOS/UEFI revision didn't support the CPU model installed (i.e. the BIOS/UEFI needed to be updated).

Same scenario where it turns on and you see/hear all the fans, hdds etc turning on, but no beep codes even w/ a motherboard speaker and no picture with video card or IGPU.

Here's the supported CPU list: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99 Extreme4/?cat=CPU

You'll note at the top 6 CPUs that don't work until the BIOS revision is >= P1.60:

E5-4669 v3(C1)	Haswell-EP	2.1GHz
E5-4660 v3(C1) Haswell-EP 2.1GHz
E5-4655 v3(M1) Haswell-EP 2.9GHz
E5-4627 v3(M1) Haswell-EP 2.6GHz
E5-4620 v3(C1) Haswell-EP 2.0GHz
E5-4610 v3(C1) Haswell-EP 1.7GHz
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 23:18:07
January 25 2016 23:15 GMT
#11635
Parts list:

ASRock X99 Extreme4
i7-5820k
GeForce GTX 750 Ti
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo
NZXT Phantom
Ripjaws gskill ddr4 4x8mb

Still not sure why I get no beep... I have the little speaker plugged in to chassis speaker header (speaker1) as per mobo installation guide

edit: my cpu is on that list so what do I need to do exactly?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 23:17:53
January 25 2016 23:15 GMT
#11636
Well, that kills my theory :^).

To me, the lack of beep indicates it's not actually reaching the POST step.

Give us pictures of the motherboard installed in the case so we can verify what's plugged in.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 23:22:27
January 25 2016 23:18 GMT
#11637
@micronesia:
Make sure your computer doesn't short circuit somewhere, a common problem is to have too many standoffs where one is touching the actual motherboard. I'm guessing you have the CPU power connector installed as well, it could be modular and you just forgot about it, it's larger 8-pin one near the CPU.

Also what Craton said, just take a picture of your stuff and post it here just in case..

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
January 25 2016 23:33 GMT
#11638
I did not forget cpu power.

I had a tech take a look inside my comp and he didn't find anything wrong with it. He did comment the location of the chassis speaker is odd. Here are photos:
[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
January 25 2016 23:51 GMT
#11639
Are there standoffs between the MB and the case? It's hard to tell.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 23:57:06
January 25 2016 23:56 GMT
#11640
I'm not sure what that means but I screwed little cylinders into the case and then screwed the mobo into the cylinders which elevates the mobo away from the case.
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