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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 22 2016 01:45 GMT
#11601
I am trying to put my old cooler on to my new cpu and mobo. The screwholes are not lining up... The holes are too far apart on the mobo... Why would that be?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 22 2016 01:50 GMT
#11602
What's the cooler and motherboard?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 01:58:52
January 22 2016 01:56 GMT
#11603
mobo is asrock x99 extreme4 and cooler was mentioned earlier in thread (hard for me to look up from my crappy phone but I will try)

Edit: hyper212x according to earlier posts

Edit2: what happens if you leave thermal paste sitting out overnight after spreading it on to the cpu?
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
January 22 2016 02:15 GMT
#11604
@micronesia: x99 is lga-2011 socket, while you can still reuse your hyper 212x it's still a different mounting compared to your old mobo. need to find the mounting bracket for that in the box that come with the cooler. if you lost it then i guess it's either contacting CM or worst case is buy a new cooler. sorry forgot to tell you about that
ELqQQT_T
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 22 2016 02:20 GMT
#11605
can you suggest a specific cooler from microcenter?

Also is the thermal paste ok to leave there on the cpu overnight?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 22 2016 02:44 GMT
#11606
Not sure if you just squeezed it out of the tube and left it sat on the CPU (never had that situation before haha), but if you squished it when putting down the CPU cooler then it's probably better to wipe off and go again. I often end up putting paste down 2 or even 3 times when putting a cooler on to get a decent application and not mess it up when trying to get cooler on cleanly
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
January 22 2016 04:13 GMT
#11607
On January 22 2016 11:20 micronesia wrote:
can you suggest a specific cooler from microcenter?

Also is the thermal paste ok to leave there on the cpu overnight?


from this list, https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu-cooler/#c=21&sort=a6&page=1, CHEAP and GOOD option is probably still the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. You can buy a new one, then reuse the fan from the old one to have push/pull configuration for a bit better cooling performance.

About the thermal paste question, sorry never did that so don't know. You can follow Cyro advice above. Or just wipe clean, since you get a new tube of thermal compound when buying new cooler anyway
ELqQQT_T
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 04:21:36
January 22 2016 04:20 GMT
#11608
You can get like 30 applications with 1 tube anyway so it usually doesn't matter, wiping clean is easy solution
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 22 2016 20:08 GMT
#11609
All right I'll get another cooler master hyper 212 and then transfer the fan from my old one (I assume I can adjust the clips so it faces the other way). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pick one up before the snow started to fall so I'll have to wait until mega blizzzard 2016 passes in a couple of days...
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 23 2016 02:42 GMT
#11610
hey cyro I did it!

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My idle is so low now. and I can play witcher at 60c!

was a bitch to install (had to rearrange HDD) but so worth it! i used H60
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 23 2016 08:30 GMT
#11611
Gz! Hope you had fun :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
sausagslayer
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5 Posts
January 23 2016 19:02 GMT
#11612
Hello!
I am about to build my computer for the first time and am in dire need of advice.

What is your budget?
$900-1000 but there might be a little room if needed

What is your monitor's native resolution?
No monitor yet but thinking about a 23,6" (1920 x 1080) until i can get a second.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Most of the esport titles and blizzard games, also some AAA but on low if needed just wanna play the games smooth, high settings is only a luxury.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Watching movies, streams, email, internet. Nothing other then games basicly.

Do you intend to overclock?
No

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Well i will be running windows on it. But my brother will fix that for me.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes a monitor is part of my budget and am currently thinking about a $100 23,6" (1920 x 1080) with 60hz as stated above.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
No

So far this is what ive found as parts, but its a little much i think. And also it might be some realy stupid combos of parts or just bad ideas, so feel free to call out the crazy.

Case:
Fractal design define r4 black

CPU:
Intel core i5 4670k 3,4ghz

GPU:
ASUS STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-4GD5

SSD:
Samsung 840 pro 256GB basic

Memory:
Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600mhz

Motherboard:
Asrock H97 Pro 4

PSU:
Corsair CX 600w

I belive this is in the $900 range.
Going to get a HDD aswell.

As for screen, is 120hz needed?

If i have missed something obvious please let me know.

Thanks for helping, i am super nervous about these things
Get rich or try dying!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 19:27:04
January 23 2016 19:25 GMT
#11613
That CPU+mobo+RAM is last gen. Do you want CPU overclocking? If not, you're probably looking for an i5 6600

power usage for a 960 + stock CPU system is also around 150w under a gaming load, under 200w at full. You can happily buy a decent 450w PSU and be able to swap in a meaty GPU in the future.

As for screen, is 120hz needed?


Depends what you mean by needed, at this budget i would personally take one 100%

SSD:
Samsung 840 pro 256GB basic


I think the pro and basic are two different SSD's. You should avoid all of the 840's aside from the 840 pro. The 850 series (evo and pro) are good too.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 21:47:08
January 23 2016 19:34 GMT
#11614
@sausag:
I would go with this instead, or something similar. I don't think I forgot anything, add a dvdplayer if you need one. If you're not overclocking I don't really think you need a third party cooler for the 6600, but you can add one of those as well if you prefer.

http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/9058496/2016-01-23teamliquid[image loading][image loading]
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sausagslayer
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 23:18:12
January 23 2016 23:01 GMT
#11615
@cyro
Thank you for the tips!
For me this is a massive jungle and so hard to know where and what to look for, what is last and current gen etc.

Would you say a 60hz screen would be a disservice to the rest of the stuff? Sort of like watching hd on a fat tv?

The 8709kr firkraag8 suggest + a monitor with 144hz (have not been able to find monitors with 120, guess they go from 75 to 144) would probably end up around 11000kr or about $100 above what i hoped would be enough. But if it is worth it ill absolutely consider it. Dont wanna be stupid cheap.

What do you think about the aoc 144hz?
https://www.komplett.se/product/775713/datorutrustning/bildskarm/bildskarmar/aoc-24-led-g2460pqu
Sorry, this is a swedish link, but maybe you know about it.

@firkraag8
Wow thank you for that list!
Just some small questions:
Dvd players etc is just plug and play basicly, right? Add in whenever.

This one is realy stupid i guess, but motherboards has all the sound and network stuff right?

HDD is no problem to add i guess?

Are there any extra stuff needed like cabels etc?

Fans on the case and on the parts should be enough? Since no overclocking.

Sorry for stupid questions but im such a noob at this and I dont wanna miss anything abvious.
Get rich or try dying!
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
January 24 2016 01:24 GMT
#11616
@saus:
DVD players and HDD isn't hard to install no, and you can do it later without having to put the computer apart or anything. All cables you need are included with the motherboard & PSU so no need to get extras.

The 200r case includes both front and back fans and should be enough. If you want to add extras later on that's super easy.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 01:33:13
January 24 2016 01:32 GMT
#11617
HDD/DVD player are only hard to install if other parts block the openings. In my case, you have to remove an entire HDD bay to add more, which means you have to unplug every HDD to remove the bay; it's pretty annoying. The 200r doesn't look to have any impediments.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-24 10:33:48
January 24 2016 10:08 GMT
#11618
Would you say a 60hz screen would be a disservice to the rest of the stuff?


Yeah With a 960 you can't play many graphically demanding games at high settings and high framerates at the same time, but when settings are turned down, an easier game is running or even during desktop work etc it's a big deal. Much higher performance ceiling

I don't know of that model, the benq xl2411z is often cheap in europe now
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 25 2016 18:33 GMT
#11619
I plugged my psu into the gpu (one place) and mobo (two places). How do I connect the psu to the hard drives? The psu cable looks like this:[image loading]
The power input on the hard drives looks like a long sata connnector. I have cables with these connectors that came with the psu:[image loading]What connects directly to the psu cable? My old psu had more useful cables coming out of it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
January 25 2016 18:37 GMT
#11620
On January 26 2016 03:33 micronesia wrote:
I plugged my psu into the gpu (one place) and mobo (two places). How do I connect the psu to the hard drives? The psu cable looks like this:[image loading]
The power input on the hard drives looks like a long sata connnector. I have cables with these connectors that came with the psu:[image loading]What connects directly to the psu cable? My old psu had more useful cables coming out of it.


Your Hard Drives need 2 connections. One is a SATA data connection to the motherboard. The other is the SATA Power connection to the PSU. I've put red boxes around the SATA power connectors in your image:

[image loading]

Use those to provide power to your HDD. Combined with the data cable it should look like this:

[image loading]
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